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Faith
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posted May 01, 2016 01:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
Thanks and likewise mirage

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posted May 01, 2016 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
P.J. I haven't read your material yet. But will!
Sulky.... {{{{ }}}}
Hi Vajra
FAITH, I Love that saying!!
Have a Nice Weekend.

Thanks for the hug.

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posted May 02, 2016 11:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
Thanks for the hug.

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posted May 03, 2016 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Sulkyarcher:
[b] Thanks for the hug.


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posted May 03, 2016 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by PixieJane:
Of course, I believe karma is blind and grinds the guilty and innocent alike.

Nevertheless, our choices still matter and have an affect.


LYRICS

Sweet child in time
You'll see the line
The line that's drawn between
Good and bad

See the blind man
Shooting at the world
Bullets flying
Oh taking toll

If you've been bad
Oh Lord I bet you have
And you've not been hit
Oh by flying lead

You'd better close your eyes
Ooohhhh bow your head
Wait for the ricochet

(music) Child In Time (Deep Purple, 1970) [9:37] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OorZcOzNcgE
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/85449/

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posted May 06, 2016 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by mirage29:
LYRICS

Sweet child in time
You'll see the line
The line that's drawn between
Good and bad

See the blind man
Shooting at the world
Bullets flying
Oh taking toll

If you've been bad
Oh Lord I bet you have
And you've not been hit
Oh by flying lead

You'd better close your eyes
Ooohhhh bow your head
Wait for the ricochet

(music) Child In Time (Deep Purple, 1970) [9:37] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OorZcOzNcgE
http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/85449/


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Vajra
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posted May 15, 2016 04:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vajra        Reply w/Quote
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posted May 15, 2016 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
Thanks for that, Vajra.

edit

Trying not to be negative about America or American Christians in general.

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posted May 16, 2016 12:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
Interesting, Vajra.

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posted May 17, 2016 12:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29        Reply w/Quote
interesting....

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posted May 20, 2016 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29        Reply w/Quote
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posted May 25, 2016 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
Mirage, thank you so much. I read that for the first time last night but was too emotionally exhausted by certain issues to reply. Then our internet went out. I'm short on time as I'm typing from a coffeeshop.

Thanks for urging me to become an astrologer. I think you're right. I really do want certification. You're right.

Best wishes, gratitude, and love to you~

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posted May 29, 2016 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29        Reply w/Quote
Oh good! You saw it. In the LONG Term View, becoming a Certified Professional Astrologer could be very rewarding for you, in so many ways. You are wickedly-smart, and will make an Amazing astrologer!

(Congratulations... ..)

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posted June 05, 2016 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique        Reply w/Quote
Hell....

goes hand in hand with Karma of course.

Its not materialistic like we are told by Christianity. You are not going to burn and rot. When your body dies you are no longer a body, but a spirit.

Its not forever. You pay for what you have done, and then you move on and keep on learning. Whats the point in suffering forever? The point is learn and cleanse your soul until you achieve pure Love.


I always thought that when you are a spirit and go back to the Source where the Judgement happens, you go through the same pain you inflicted to people. Worse, you feel their pain and experience every bit of suffering.

But.. Hell can be on Earth too. And its horrible. Just as horrible as what you have done in the past.

I realized this when my boyfriend had his cancer surgery done and all was good, but shortly after he kept feeling pain in his whole body. Imagine all your bones and organs and every bit of you aching continuously and hurting. Pills dont work. Nothing works. He puked from how many pills he tried to take so it could stop. Everything was fine, he had done multiple tests, but it was this sharp pain that came out of nowhere.

Its getting better though, he acknowledged what is happening when I remembered a past life regression he did and he saw himself in the Middle East having fun killing people and lovin every bit of pain that came from it. He killed a lot of people and enjoyed it....... now he gets to pay.

EDIT: He also lost a ton of people from his life. Relatives, friends and even pets. He got to a point in one moment when he was afraid of losing everything. Damn

And when he gets to pay? Transit Pluto right now JUST HIT his NATAL SATURN. Its almost conjunct. Boom. The closer Pluto approached his Saturn, the more visible his pain kept showing up. Now it was very very often but its going away slowly.

Pluto brings to the surface the darkest parts of yourself, he burns you and burns until you cleanse yourself and - (you dont suffer forever) but you REBORN just like the phoenix. This is Hell. It transforms you. It hurts. But you shine brighter.


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posted June 05, 2016 08:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique        Reply w/Quote
Have you ever experienced Hell ?


I had yet another revelation while writing my anterior post....

I went through it too.
For me, Hell was this planet, being here, being tied to all these material matters, not being able to shine through this human body. Not being able to be a spirit, be my TRUE SELF. Not being able to travel wherever i want to and BE MY TRUE FORM. I felt stuck and trapped in the body of a 12 year old sick ugly girl, while in reality I was SO MUCH MORE and NO ONE, NO ONE could see it or feel it - because we are all robots. I wanted to die. I hated God and what he did to me.

I struggled all my teenage years with several identities - I was EVERYTHING at a point, morphing through different personalities often. But I managed to find a stable ground.

I am a spirit, I am everything, I am Love, but living in this cage called "Me" also. Difficult.
Its ok. Im not going to go in detail.


but now I learned to Love it here also and see that this is worth it. I felt and feel pure Love, i myself went through several rebirths, so painful, but i got up stronger and changed. In good.


I have Sun conjunct Pluto conjunct Chiron - I am Hell filled with pain, but I reborn
I have Mars conjunct Neptune exact in 1st house - this I'm a spirit thing, not a human.
I have Uranus dominant in 1st house - I dont belong here, i feel trapped in this structured and material world. I am energy . I want to be fast and travel. I am not in tune with this world (since i was very small i did and still do things exactly the opposite way, like tell the hour, say thing reversed etc)

What is funny? I have south node - Past karma in my first house. Yes. On that Mars+Neptune and Uranus. This is my hell, but Im Loving it now.

Also read somewhere else that Uranian souls were souls for a long time but broke some barriers, they messed things up in the astral and now they are sent here to learn what structures are.

Again, not going in detail, i can write continuously


LOVE

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posted June 05, 2016 08:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilunatique        Reply w/Quote
Hell relationships, they also happen so you can pay karma or learn something and again, be reborn

I am seriously going to stop now

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posted June 06, 2016 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Faith        Reply w/Quote
Thank you for all that, ilunatique...

So sorry the man you love is sick and in pain.

I hear what you are saying about not fitting in. Well life has gotten pretty insane, so everyone is affected one way or the other.

I'm sure anyone reading this is wishing that your man will recover. He's fortunate, at least, to have you there for support.

Best wishes ~

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posted June 07, 2016 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote

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posted June 07, 2016 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29        Reply w/Quote
Ilunatique!! I loved your posts! I'm GLAD you didn't stop. heh heh

Your boyfriend, omg, how rough.

And, I'm going to say it--- God didn't do that to you. We live in a fallen world, where there's free will and others determined to do wrong to other people. We live in a polluted environment that poison the body, and our food. It's up to people to take care of the planet. God gave us responsibilities. It's up to the group of us humans to figure out what we did (over the years) and how to correct this. Maybe God is helping us to grow into being Team players rather than soloists.

We each have our part to play, and part of that is taking care of each other... like you cared for your Friend.

Never downgrade the power potential for Good in your natal chart. I know you've been having it sooooooo freakin' rough {{hug}} and I'm so truly sending you Love on that.

No sweetie. As you grow older and older, you will be constantly tested, and opened out. Pluto is POWER and POTENTIALITY. Uranus, is the Awakener. My God!!! ... Chiron will allow you such such DEPTH and ability to USE all that Plutonic Power Available.

YOU are Incredible. You feel ugly right now (and I read some of your other health-challenge posts).... You stay 'with it'... Your age really matters right now because you are going through hormonal things, and it is NOT easy being your age. .... I give you SUCH CREDIT for being the fine-sounding person that I perceive in your writings. Nooooo~~~ do not put your inside self down for a single second. The material world?... that changes constantly. Your innerworld? that will keep developing and morphing and changing.... Yes, we go through tough things..... I ALWAYS Deeply Respect ANY PERSON with a Hard Chart, because I KNOW you're an Advanced Soul, with an Advanced Job Potential. You arrived here on the planet for something sooooo Worthy.

It does NOT Matter how you start, or even the hell-piles you encounter in wave upon wave upon wave of misfortunes... There will be times of refreshing that come.

Start with the single most important part--- That's YOU being you, and learning to BE you, and loving EVERY part that you are. You are a cohesive whole, with soooo much LOVE inside you. Let that Radiate...

You're Doing a Beautiful Job, Growing UP, Just-As-YOU-Are..... Exactly when you are--- In the Present Moment, ever. {{{{ }}}}

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posted June 12, 2016 07:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mirage29        Reply w/Quote
Feels like Hell here in Orlando....

So much grief for the entire community here.

Prayers

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posted June 16, 2016 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher        Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by ilunatique:
Hell....

goes hand in hand with Karma of course.

Its not materialistic like we are told by Christianity. You are not going to burn and rot. When your body dies you are no longer a body, but a spirit.

Its not forever. You pay for what you have done, and then you move on and keep on learning. Whats the point in suffering forever? The point is learn and cleanse your soul until you achieve pure Love.


I always thought that when you are a spirit and go back to the Source where the Judgement happens, you go through the same pain you inflicted to people. Worse, you feel their pain and experience every bit of suffering.

But.. Hell can be on Earth too. And its horrible. Just as horrible as what you have done in the past.

I realized this when my boyfriend had his cancer surgery done and all was good, but shortly after he kept feeling pain in his whole body. Imagine all your bones and organs and every bit of you aching continuously and hurting. Pills dont work. Nothing works. He puked from how many pills he tried to take so it could stop. Everything was fine, he had done multiple tests, but it was this sharp pain that came out of nowhere.

Its getting better though, he acknowledged what is happening when I remembered a past life regression he did and he saw himself in the Middle East having fun killing people and lovin every bit of pain that came from it. He killed a lot of people and enjoyed it....... now he gets to pay.

EDIT: He also lost a ton of people from his life. Relatives, friends and even pets. He got to a point in one moment when he was afraid of losing everything. Damn

And when he gets to pay? Transit Pluto right now JUST HIT his NATAL SATURN. Its almost conjunct. Boom. The closer Pluto approached his Saturn, the more visible his pain kept showing up. Now it was very very often but its going away slowly.

Pluto brings to the surface the darkest parts of yourself, he burns you and burns until you cleanse yourself and - (you dont suffer forever) but you REBORN just like the phoenix. This is Hell. It transforms you. It hurts. But you shine brighter.


I got a past life regression too. In one lifetime I was in the 1500's, and I was a narcissistic and selfish parent. I gave my child away who had a broken leg. That's cold. I turned all my children against him.

I've paid for that karma the first three decades of my life, until my Saturn Return. I suffered for almost 30 years.

My life is better now. But pain, horrible mental pain for decades!

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posted June 17, 2016 08:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
Glad life is better.

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posted June 17, 2016 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Sulkyarcher        Reply w/Quote
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Glad life is better.

Thank you.

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posted June 18, 2016 11:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Randall        Reply w/Quote
Onward and upward!

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