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Lara
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posted February 07, 2009 02:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
oh it's REAL DD and to show l have read your posts l will interpret them for you!

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Actually most of these dreams happen the same way; I`m dreaming of something else, and then I see a picture or even a painting or a film on a big screen, and then I`m drawn into it. That last dream which I dreamed, I was actually sitting before screen and seeing myself on screen, as a still photo, and it just came to life when I was "sucked" into it.

This dream your guides are bringing you back to yourself. They are showing you YOU on a screen and then bringing YOU to life. They want YOU to look at YOU and bring yourself more into the present. So look at yourself and see where you are holding yourself back.

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In another dream (the prequel to that last one) I was actually standing in a bookshop, when I heard a voice telling me to go back. But I didn`t want to. I did not want to know. (But again I guess my Higher SElf knew I needed to know).
And I was staring at a book, an astrology book, and then felt like I was spiraling down and backwards probably, until I kinda "landed" where I was supposed to be.

In this dream they are saying "trust. Trust US that we will be your book... you didn't want to know but they took you (spiralling) to the point that they wanted to show you., It was to get you away from the astrology book where you are trying to find the answers and to a PLACE they want you to be. Where did you land? this is the place you need to go back to and figure out where it is

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posted February 07, 2009 02:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message
"so how can one possibly fall from present to past dimensions within the same dream?"
Well, wasn`t it you who said there is no past, everything happens simultaneously?
So why shouldn`t it be possible?
Just because you haven`t experienced it?

I can tell you how this is possible. All our past lives are engraved in our soul, mostly remaining part of the subconsciosuness.
Dreams, no matter if the normal ones or past life dreams, are the connection to our half-or subconsciousness.
Sometimes we stay nearer to the surface, the half-consciousness, digesting things from our present life.
But sometimes we sink deeper, and access deeper parts of our soul, where past lives are stored.
But I am convinced we are only shown past lives and scenes from them (or actually re-live them), which are significant for our life now. As you said to remember the reason for some karmic pain and let go of it.


"What horrific thing happened to you in these dreams? It's usually very physically or spiritually disturbing to the dreamer and you feel the entire life within the segment of the dream."
Yes, that`s true. It was very disturbing, physically and spiritually, and yes horrific things happened.

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darkdreamer
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posted February 07, 2009 02:58 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

I do not wish for you to interprete any of my posts, unless I am asking for your opinion.

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Lara
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posted February 07, 2009 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Our past lives aren't accessed through our soul DD.

Ok l agree to vehemently disagree with you because you are talking about the subconscious and l am not!!

btw before you rant, subconscious and UNconscious are two different things. Ever read Jung? if you prefer to agree with yourself then great but it doesn't inhibit learning something new. To do that you have to take onboard what others are saying... ya know?

It isn't possible to go from one dimension to another within the SAME dream... i know this because for 25 yrs now l have studied and experienced parallels and l know their limits.

what is the point of conversing if you don't take onboard and learn something from it? I showed you an aspect to your dreams yet you prefer to tell me i'm wrong. Why is that? what is it in you that cannot accept anything l say to possibly have a grain of truth. god forbid!


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Peri
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posted February 07, 2009 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
# 1

I see myself as a middle-aged woman around 40 but she looks older, she is plain and unattractive, she had worked hard all her life, she is poor and lonely and there is only one thing in her life that makes her happy - it's her son; he is young, around 20 and very handsome, he has blond wavy hair and blue eyes, to her he looks like an angel, he was always kind and loving to her ... he went to war (looked like one of thoes napoleon wars) and was killed by cannon ball there ...she does not cry but she is all dead inside ... she wants to die because she knows her life is over

# 2

I see myself as a young girl in her early 20-ies, she lives in prague and makes her living by sewing but that's not enough, she is very poor and does not have any relatives...she is in love with a man that lives nearby ... they are friends...not close though...she secretly loves him, he is the best thing that ever happened to her...one day she finds out he was hit by a car (one of those first old-fashined cars) and died... she is devastated...her pain is so acute and sharp...she hates herself for having been too shy to tell him how she feels because she knows he loved her too ... she does not know how she is going to live without him

I had these memories simultaneously in one dream and the guys there were the same person; something in my mind said I should never ever have childen and fall in love again ... in my real life I have always disliked men with blue eyes and blonde hair... but I never knew why...

right before these memories I had a precognitive dream about this man, the same young man with blue eyes and wavy blond hair...I could tell from the dream we will be together and happy in this life...

soon after I met this person, I just knew it was him!! but we are no longer together...I just dont know how my precognitive dream could be sooo wrong ... it makes no sense ...maybe this precognitive dream was for one of my future lives not this one? I dont know

but the first two still make me feel like crying

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LEXX
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posted February 07, 2009 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
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Lexx,

I definitely agree here.

That is the "weird" thing about those dreams or visions, I am really there, AND I am not my current Self anymore. Itīs hard to explain. But it`s like I have lost my knowledge of the present (who is president right now for example), of what I have learned ins school and so on.
That is what sets those dreams apart from others.


Thank you for understanding me.
So many folks assume they have been kings, queens, priestesses, Cleopatra, and so forth.
Common lifetimes are not reported as often as ones of being a famous person and so forth.
Why?
Well when the king or queen passes by in their carriage, or for a speech, coronation, whatever...for example....
MANY people saw them!
So people remember "seeing" that and "think" it must have been themselves they "saw".
Not true.
As one "sees" the famous person, most likely one of the high points in their commoner lives, they cannot help but remember that wonderful moment!
They key is then to look down,...
are you standing in mud or riding in the carriage?
WHOMEVER YOU SEE WAS NOT YOU!
Just like in your life now....unless you walk about with a mirror in front of yourself...
YOU DO NOT SEE YOURSELF.
The exceptions are, seeing your dead/dying body...because you have just died/or are dying, and are having a OBE experience.

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Lara
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posted February 07, 2009 03:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
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Lara,
I do not wish for you to interprete any of my posts, unless I am asking for your opinion.

so don't criticize me then LOL! This is not personal DD, this is a discussion about "past life recall".

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Lara
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posted February 07, 2009 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Peri,

SO fascinating that you were shown your past life dreams with this man for you to meet him. Maybe you consciously thought about the dreams afterwards and brought him into your life?

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Peri
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posted February 07, 2009 03:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
I had them days before I actually met him

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posted February 07, 2009 03:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I was a soldier in a war that involved canon balls on land. And a man. I really think I was usually a man.

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darkdreamer
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posted February 07, 2009 03:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

"what is the point of conversing if you don't take onboard and learn something from it? I showed you an aspect to your dreams yet you prefer to tell me i'm wrong. Why is that? what is it in you that cannot accept anything l say to possibly have a grain of truth. god forbid"


EDIT: just in case you don`t know why I am laughing.
I am laughing, cause you should consider doing what you wrote above, too.

It is you who is telling me (and everyone else) all the time, that we are wrong and "explain" to us what it is we REALLY experience.

Newsflash: You are not me. You don`t know what I experienced. You don`t know what I feel.

But so be it. You have your oponions and I have mine. And I choose to disagree with you.

So we should leave it at that.

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posted February 07, 2009 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
i am jealous! all my life this experiencing of past lives has evaded me...though i have been through some amazing visions and real identification with certain time periods...enough to convince me that i have been in certain places and times before...

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Lara
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posted February 07, 2009 03:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
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I had them days before I actually met him

DEF past life!!!! v cool


DD, i'mm sharing my knowledge here... and l happen to have a lot of knowledge about akashic records, dream interpretation and parallel lives so l don't know why you see that as a bad thing

Would you prefer l don't share? I can easily write a book instead and sell my knowledge!

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Lara
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posted February 07, 2009 03:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
OK DD, you shared your experiences and i'm asking you to question whether they were truly past life dreams!

big deal!

You then became defensive and made me look like the bad guy! I don't subscribe to that kinda dynamic.
Peace.

I guess you won't reply to me n your thread now so i'll delete my post on there too.

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Peri
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posted February 07, 2009 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
now I remember I had a couple of others too

In one of them I was a medieval poet and writer, a famous writer, I was a man, I remember reading my last poem about a young boy's love to an older married girl, he was soo determined to get her when he is grown up he was about 15-16 and she was 20-21

I remember reading it again and again enjoying every line ... it was written in old french but at the same time I knew the poem would be destroyed in a fire after the author's death and it would never be read by anyone else

another one: I was in the concentration camp during the WWII, I think I was a young man, his job was to collect and burn dead bodies ... he had a wound on his leg that would not heal, he did his best not to limp, he was so scared the fascists would notice it and kill him and he wanted to live so much...

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posted February 07, 2009 03:35 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Lexx,

"So many folks assume they have been kings, queens, priestesses, Cleopatra, and so forth."
Yes, thatīs a little bit suspicious I guess. Even though I guess I am guilty of that, too.


"Common lifetimes are not reported as often as ones of being a famous person and so forth."
I do remember a life as a farmer, though, and one life as a prisoner in a concentrationcamp. (You know, I have once told you about that dream, and you said it was a past life memory.)
And it surely wasn`t where my guides want me to be right now. lol


"As one "sees" the famous person, most likely one of the high points in their commoner lives, they cannot help but remember that wonderful moment!"
Yes, and imagine it were them.


"Just like in your life now....unless you walk about with a mirror in front of yourself...
YOU DO NOT SEE YOURSELF."
Yes.


"The exceptions are, seeing your dead/dying body...because you have just died/or are dying, and are having a OBE experience."
Well, you can also have OBE experiences while alive, can`t you?
However, I do agree.


What is your take on what I described? Do you also think it can`t be past life dreams, just because there was another dream before them, leading to that memory?

What do you think past life dreams really are?
A flipping across dimensions like Lara said?
Or like an actual memory, coming up from the depth of our soul?

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posted February 07, 2009 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting Waterdog. Did you dream about it once or more than once? where you there and did you die or survive the war, do you know?

I'm intrigued as to your comment about being always a man.

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posted February 07, 2009 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I agree LEXX, OBE's are amazing... and they teach us to look at ourselves. I think it's as important to see yourself as it is to release yourself, would you agree?

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posted February 07, 2009 03:46 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

I questioned and I know they are past life dreams.

And you may think you have a lot of knowledge, and maybe you do, but even you donīt know everything.

It`s actually the same thing `we`ve been discussing last week.
That you think your truth is absolute, and I donīt think so.

I think we will always get to that point sooner or later and wonīt come to an agreement.

But there is no need to delete your posts. Of course if want to, you can do it. But don`t do it because of me.

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posted February 07, 2009 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Ok DD. I am only trying to help you know. I don't have a bad bone in my body... l simply have spent my entire life surrounded by these experiences and have built up a lot of knowledge. I have studied dreams extensively and shamanism, occult and Jung/Freud. I spent years doing therapy and regression, re-birth and so forth.

I like to share my fountain of experience and knowledge and because l have this child-like quality where l presume other people will be happy to receive what i have to offer. I guess not.

No worries, l just must now learn once and for all that not everyone is interested nor wants to learn. I love to learn. I immerse myself in it daily and l always ask everyone l know intimate questions about their spiritual or psychic experiences.

It is not just my truth though... it is from the UNiverse, which l believe IS absolute truth. Oversoul connection is a bane because people won't accept that it is higher knowledge. It is not me necessarily who is talking on his subject. It is me, my guides, sometimes higher level oversoul guides coming through. I interpreted your dreams above through my H.S but hey, what does it matter if the phone is just ringing

Peace.

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posted February 07, 2009 03:55 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Peri,

that is interesting about the concentration camp. Do you remember which one it was?


I was actually having a past life dream a few weeks ago of a concentration camp in a city I had never heard of. Actually when I awoke I almost didnīt want it to have been true, and thought that it maybe wasn`t this time, cause a city`s name needs some vowels in it, doesn`t it? Besides I never had heard of a concentration camp with that name.
But I actually found a city with that name existed or still exists and that there actually has been a concentration camp there.

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posted February 07, 2009 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
no DD, I dont know which one it was...

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posted February 07, 2009 04:05 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

I like to learn, too. Yes, but I am not buying blindly everything someone sais.

I have read a lot of stuff about past lives, Higher SElves, guides, twinsouls and soulmates.
And many of that stuff just contradicts each other.

So how am I to know t hat you really know the truth and aren`t misguided?


On top of that, yes, I see, you like to share your thoughts. But it doesn`t come across as sharing, more like "I know the truth, and you have to absorb it now."

That is not how learning works.


Also, you will not leave any room for being questioned yourself; you jsut state your - certainly well thought- opinions as a fact.
But the thing is others also have experiences and opinions, and they are not less true than yours.

I believe strongly in what IQ said in the Persephone thread: "Its all a matter of perspective."

And you and me, we have widely different perspectives.

And calling me defensive or not wanting to learn and things like that, could even be seen as a little bit insulting.
Why is that necessary for you?
(that was a rhetorical question, and you don`t need to answer that)


But maybe you could answer that:
HOw exactly was I being defensive?
Because I didn`t agree immediately with what you said?
Because I believe in my own experiences more than what a stranger tells me?

If that is defensive, yes, then I am defensive, and I want to be.

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Peri
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posted February 07, 2009 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
aww guys stop fighting plzz

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posted February 07, 2009 04:24 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Peri,

I don`t like to fight.

But I don`t like being told what to think either. And all I wanted is saying this clearly, that everyone is entitled to their opinion, and I have done so, so there is no reason for fighting anymore.
I just wished my opinion would be accepted as valid as anyone elses.

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