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Diandra23 unregistered
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posted February 08, 2009 07:18 AM
Right now im feeling all at once,after reading IQ´s posts here: surprised shocked curious trying to absorb the information,without thinkint im crazy IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted February 08, 2009 07:28 AM
Why are you shocked, Dee?IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4316 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 08:14 AM
I just wanted to say that l believe IQ is right. Actually l more than believe he is right, he is correct. You can go back and change the events in past lives. I did it with my sacrificial dream IQ and it worked really well. The reason l did it was because this man who was killed through my own wrong-doing (by no fault of my own) is also in my present life on a daily basis. So having paid back the karma in this life l went and changed what happened, with me rescuing him instead and allowing the pain and heart ache to be released.It had an amazing effect on my relationship with him 'now'. I feel absolutely no 'saviour-victim' relationship with him anymore and we are able to get on with out this energy between us choking us. So l am aware of all of this and can agree that it works!  MAY i just add though that if you have outstanding KARMA with the other person in that life, you may only change the sequence with the permission of the "pre-birth council" and if they say no... you can't without creating more karma. and the reason i didn't mention all of this before, cos l know l will be asked... l simply didn't think the thread was ready for it, seeing as the amount of stick l get for simply sharing basic stuff.  IP: Logged |
Iqhunk unregistered
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posted February 08, 2009 12:32 PM
Hi Lara, I can attest to the Pre-Birth Council, their voice sounds like sarcastic 70 year old College Professors who do not want to laugh that they were right about us commiting a certain mistake. I was shown the consequences of being given a certain knowledge of a heinous crime of an earlier lifeline, I disagreed that I would freak out. But in that life, I did freak out and reacted with self hatred and extreme guilt. Then I heard this life announced with my current name choice. My recalls happened with Pluto Transits, Neptune Transits and Kaali Transits, after very intense forgiveness meditations and visualizaitions. I could take the information now, thankfully. Hi Lexx, << Sorry Iqhunk. I do not buy any of that. >> It took me quite a while too to realize whats happening. I too would not have bought it but hey, when it happens accurately and repeatably for 15+ past life recalls, then it has a special meaning. Then again, I discovered EXACTLY what is happening when I got 2 recalls with me doing different actions. I was then able to categorize a) Silly Dreams of Memory Indexing b) Repressed Memories Surfacing when we are ready to deal with them c) Visions of the future related to others d) Visions of the future related to us e) Knowledge/Solutions to problems we think of a lot during the day [Like how Kekule discovered the Benzene Ring Structured] f) Past Life Recalls where we see what happened to us or others with us. g) Past Life Re-Expereinces as it is. h) Past Life Re-Experiences where we "feel" that we are changing the event. This happens when Karma is resolved or about to be. Sometimes this is a Soul Test by our Higher Self, determining whether we deserve the outcome to be changed. i) Feeling the life of our parallel existences or our Twin Soul. j) Genetic Memory dreams of our Ancestor's lives. k) OBEs and Astral Travels.
Several transits trigger any of the above. KAALI transits especially. Lexx, have you experienced/studied all the above indepth? I would like to hear your views. I have never done Hypnotic Regression, but many of my findings corroborate with those who have done regression.
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 4316 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 12:46 PM
Agree IQ lolI have conversed with them too and they are like old fuddy duddy's  I have done re-birthing and past life work using Jungian re-birthing techniques with breathing and it's amazing. Of course, one can just activate oneself and ask the pre-birth council to show you a past life to work on and up it pops. I think l understand you are saying that unless karma is nearing or is at completion, the past life cannot be altered and l totally agree. Releasing past lives is a very essential part of advancing in this life, l believe. Thank you IQ for taking this onto another level  IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 638 From: South Carolina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 02:18 PM
Ok. So I have to say. Never heard of the Pre-Birth Council. To me though saying that makes me think of the Sirian High Council. Is that the same thing? But I have learned enough to know that I could never learn enough, thats what Earth is all about. Especially right now.My dreams are starting come. So I guess Neptunes fog is clearing because I see them more clearly now. And they are getting very deep. I wrote in another post previously: I notice that my dreams are getting more intense. The other day I had a dream that I was looking at myself sleep and then when I looked in the mirror my face was scaly, and my complexion was like grey, brown, I was like some strange creature. And I looked a little scary but I smiled because I loved that creature. And then I went back to my bed. And sat beside myself, looking at myself with this feeling of a care taker, you know this inner glow of warmth, I knew I was smiling even though I couldnt see it as I watched myself sleep and then I woke up. I kept dreaming this over and over all night. It was very restless sleep. IP: Logged |
LEXX Moderator Posts: 2135 From: Still out looking for Schr�dinger's cat.........& LEXIGRAMMING... is my Passion! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 03:22 PM
 PS.that is not directed at you btw oneruledbymars 
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 4685 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 03:46 PM
i know a lady who guides people in similar reconstructions of the past...though she does it with present lifelines not past - while i don't know if it actually changes that past it does allow you to forgive the past (or atone for it?) which has a hugely freeing influence on the present.IP: Logged |
darkdreamer unregistered
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posted February 08, 2009 03:50 PM
Katatonic,yes, that is something I can relate to. It´s a technique in psychoanalyis I believe. To guide you back and help you visualize you doing things differently, which helps you release emotional burden, which of course influences your future and future relationship with those persons.
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Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 05:17 PM
I had a dream last night that I was completely obsessed by my lover who was totally abusive and I knew it. I was completely under his control and inlove or possessed. He was really evil, totally void of feeling. He slit my throat and stabbed me at the end of the dream, past life or just a vent? I did watch some weird stuff on tv that night. It's the feelings I was left with me all day. I feel almost that if it was a real past life experience and I met that soul today I would still be under his spell and willingly be his victim. He has been in many of my dreams. How do you release the karma with someone in that particular scenario?
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oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 638 From: South Carolina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 06:00 PM
I love your "beam me up picture" Lexx. Don't worry I didnt take it that way, but thanks for the note. 
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MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 2885 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 06:01 PM
Changing past life events...that sounds suspiciously like re-framing to me, an NLP method (I used to study it several years ago when I was getting my Gestalt therapy certification)....I think it can work well for traumatic past events in this present life. I don't know if I'd apply it to past life events...however, it's nice to have options either way (and to each his/her own) I'm extremely interested in just finding out what my past lives were, for a start. Maybe I'm a bit puritanical in not wanting to change them...don't know. IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 06:07 PM
In evolutionary astrology Jeff Green talked alot about the shaministic pratises and rituals of cutting off karmic ties and that you don't need anyone's permission to do that.mvm I studied hypnotherapy and it uses NLP techniques that I'm considering studying further and I think that you could apply it to past life if the person is aware if the past life and the feelings etc. and can also be shown how that past life effects this life. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4316 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 06:24 PM
You cannot change a past life outcome IF the karma is still unresolved. It is not possible to override the pre birth council in this respect.The pre birth council is a record and log of your pre-birth wishes and karma. for instance, if you had been raped in a lifetime. When you die you might decide that you don't wish to date men in your next life. In the next life you might wonder why you ended up as a nun or why you are afraid or don't attract men. This is a hypothetical example. this is also the reason one never EVER says to someone "i love you FOREVER"... oops! guess what... you are bound to them FOREVER unless you consciously break that agreement by canceling the thought. ! everything starts with thought  IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 2885 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 06:43 PM
Yes, that is true. Our mind believes everything we tell it, but I heard it doesn't do negatives, like if we tell ourselves: Don't forget the keys, chances are we will because the mind mainly registers 'Forget' ... I've had it happen far too many times IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 06:44 PM
Lara I understand what you say but with so many lifetimes and so little memory of them surely a person can for instance say 'I love you forever' to more than one person...I do NOT agree with you. The pre-birth-council CANNOT over-ride free will which is ever present in the eternal NOW. That is what Linda writes also. IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 06:48 PM
MVM Yes thats the unconscious mind. Apparently it does not process negative so we were taught in hypnotherapy that if you say 'You will not lose your keys', the uncosncious automatically cancels the 'not' and the phrase becomes ' you will lose your keys'... hmm reverse psychology....
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 4316 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 06:50 PM
an excerpt from KRYON'S book II "Don't think like a human"Question: Is there anything new that you can tell us about past-life mechanics that may help us now or in the future? Answer: I will give insight for those who deal with past-life clearing. There is a human attribute that also is a soul attribute. some of you previously have determined that a human has a time cycle while on Earth that is either fast or slow or somewhere in between. you measure it in years. You use this to help explain why a person takes a very long tome to make changes, or does so quickly. This is not the variable you might expect. Although you are mostly correct in the method of determining the cycle for an individual, what you do not know is that the time cycle will also be the same for that soul. It will be the same in the last expression, and it will be the same in the next. this is a soul attribute and relates to universal pattern of vibration as well as your time cycle on Earth. It is one of the several attributes that are carried into expression that beling to the soul, and are permanent. This attribute is not biological, but is universal in its origin. I cannot explain this pattern variable that belongs to entities myself, and yourself, for it deals with terminology and concepts that are not comprehensible for you in lesson. The new information is that there s also a cyclical lifetime pattern that matches the time cycle. If you know a person is a 3 time cycle, then you should also look for significant lifetimes of karmic importance in groups of three as measured backward from the current one. Not every lifetime is one of tremendous karmic importance. in fact, most are not. That is why many humans live uneventful lives without apparent upheaval, distress, learning, clearing or enlightenment. Many lifetimes are lived as rest periods between the ones that are meaningful. Remember that time is not important to us. It is only an Earth concept, and therefore what seems like a very long and arduous process to you is all in the "now" for us. Your soul needs periods of light karmic involvement between the heavy ones just as you need balance in earthly things for health. What this means to you as a worker is that you can better target the meaningful lifetimes for examination. If you know the person's cycle, look for the same cycle for significant lifetimes, the ones that are causing the fear and trouble now. This is also a secret to the kind of karmic lessons that are involved. Those with long time cycles (such as a 9) would tend to have heavier karmic attributes fall on every ninth lifetime, and they are more prone to need help clearing them. A person with a 2 time cycle will have more attribute spread over every second lifetime, and will be more able to clear them with everyday living. Look for tragedy and physical specter with the longer time cycles, and more human interrelated karma with the faster cycles. These are generalities, and as with all karma, there are exceptions based on the groups... but basically this information will serve you. (to be continued...) ducking for cover hahahahaha IQ, are you aware of KRYON? IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 06:51 PM
Talking of thought then is it not what you believe to be true that makes it true. So if you have the thought that you cannot cancel karma because it has not been agreed with the pre-birth-council then that is so. On the other hand if you believe that you can over-ride karma with your own free will choice then it is so too. What ISisIP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 06:56 PM
Lara is not all relative consciousness though?If I am conscious of a past life then it is has been agreed by the pre-birth-council that I am aware of it to change it at free will. IP: Logged |
Lara Knowflake Posts: 4316 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 06:56 PM
You may disagree all you like... it's your prerogative. whether is is true or not is an entirely different matter. Do you work with the pre-birth council? This "not" or "don't" in sentences also works with the Law of abundance. If you say "i don't want to marry anyone over 40 the Universe hears "i want to marry anyone over 40" haahaha which is why so many people complain that the Universe doesn't listen yet it manages to send them exactly what they ask for! There is no negativity in the Universal Law so one has to remember that when asking for things or even thinking about things like "i dont want to be late" lol
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 4316 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 07:03 PM
quote: Talking of thought then is it not what you believe to be true that makes it true. So if you have the thought that you cannot cancel karma because it has not been agreed with the pre-birth-council then that is so. On the other hand if you believe that you can over-ride karma with your own free will choice then it is so too.
hehe if we could override karma that easily what the hell are we all doing then?  If you murder and get karma, you can't just say to the pre birth council in the next life "here now you idiots, l have free will so let me just cross off that murder and this rape". WHAT you CAN do however is, (if you have a talisman and are activated within the grid of your oversoul through it) call upon the CHOHANS and PRE BIRTH COUNCIL together and ask "is this karma relevant to this lifetime?" and if it is not then you may cancel it. I have done this myself and have released shed loads of karma this way... but l can put my hand on my heart and say with upmost conviction that you absolutely canNOT override outstanding karma relevant in this lifetime. sorry  IP: Logged |
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 2885 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 07:08 PM
I've heard something along the lines of, the more karma you have to straighten out, the longer it takes to catch up (if you're not paying attention). So, like, if someone's a complete prick and his karma is terrible, it may not come around to bite him in the a$$ as quickly since he's buried under other karma to resolve. Does that make sense?Thinking of my ex here 
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Lara Knowflake Posts: 4316 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 07:11 PM
quote: If I am conscious of a past life then it is has been agreed by the pre-birth-council that I am aware of it to change it at free will.
Not that l am aware. If there is no time then you are already aware of everything you chose to remember, no? unless you forget out of fear or pain.. which reminds me, people FEAR and yet they FORGET that by dealing with the FEAR they are only remembering not actually experiencing it again. The Pre-Birth Council is nothing to do with what we remember or don't, it is like a journal of everything we agreed to or not, before our birth. It doesn't hold ALL memory like the akashic Records but it is like a rule book we give ourselves before we incarnate. Therefore it doesn't show us anything, it just confirms or denies what we already know or ask it. It is like HEAD TRUSTEE if you like. IP: Logged |
Quinnie Knowflake Posts: 412 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 08, 2009 07:13 PM
What I mean by that free will choice is to know who you can ask forgiveness from and to do all that you can to forgive those who have harmed you. In knowing that someone who has harmed you can only release the karma through your forgiveness and vice versa then it is through free will that the choice is made. How you know the choice was agreed upon by the pre-birth-council is the fact that it is in awareness in this life.IP: Logged |