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Astra Knowflake Posts: 1168 From: Pluto Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 22, 2009 10:51 PM Apparently, most serial killers are Geminis or Sagittarians, which is surprising since neither of these signs have a reputation for cruelty. Why do you think most serial killers are born under these two signs? IP: Logged
writesomething Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Mar 2011	posted February 22, 2009 10:57 PM mutable element. mutable=changeable. IP: Logged
augentier unregistered	posted February 22, 2009 10:58 PM more prone to flighty/passionate emotions? someone needs to find out what moon sign is most common for these people, too.. IP: Logged
Libralove09 unregistered	posted February 22, 2009 11:08 PM apparently capricorn/sag/gemini. libra too. the serial killer who killed the most, was a cap sun. dahmer was a gemini with aries moon. the night stalker was a pisces with an aries moon i think. ted bundy, the most famous one, had prominent scorpio and sag. his style of killings were deeply influenced by scorpio! definitley scorpio there! but i think it mustve been his sag moon/sun/mars that made him willingly do those things. the green river killer, killed alot of women, he was an aqua sun and scorpio moon. IP: Logged
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 712 From: Registered: Jun 2016	posted February 22, 2009 11:25 PM Very interesting--I would expect the serial killers to be fixed signs! IP: Logged
Thethirdbenjamin unregistered	posted February 22, 2009 11:51 PM I don't know after the way I've been chasing down FistOfLegned or Fierce Dravidian. It makes me wonder a bit, Nah just kidding. Seriously I think its the way us Geminis handle emotions. I was surprised when I found the Unabomber was a gem. IP: Logged
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 712 From: Registered: Jun 2016	posted February 23, 2009 12:31 AM I'm totally surprised about the Gemini thing. I went out with some Geminis in the past and the worst thing they ever did was disappear! Manson was a Scorpio, right? IP: Logged
Iqhunk unregistered	posted February 23, 2009 05:06 AM Its not correct to blame Sun Signs. Afflicted Asteroid NESSUS and LUCIFER clearly show serial killing behaviour, I posted the most detailed and very conclusive research on this topic right here: http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum24/HTML/000655.html IP: Logged
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3671 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009	posted February 23, 2009 06:52 AM Man, I had like 5 charts of serial killers made up, then got rid of them. Posted them on here though at some point. One thing we noticed was a Moon in aspect to Uranus - this was almost a running theme in most of them. Now, I have Moon oppose Uranus, so.... ... but still, it's an interesting theme nonetheless. IP: Logged
redstar unregistered	posted February 23, 2009 07:00 AM uh-oh! I have Moon conjunct Uranus. Hands MyVirgoMask a chainsaw.. You know what they say "if you can't beat 'em..." IP: Logged
MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 3671 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009	posted February 23, 2009 07:36 AM Redstar, I was completely freaked out when i saw that running theme, but meh... Takes chainsaw happily and whirls it around seductively IP: Logged
Astra Knowflake Posts: 1168 From: Pluto Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 23, 2009 10:57 AM I know Capricorn moons are quite common. Just to clarify, I am NOT saying that every Gemini or Sag is automatically a sociopath or a serial killer. I'm just saying that there was a study that showed that serial killers were more commonly Geminis or Sags. Obviously, the entire birth chart must be taken into account, but I just found it interesting that these two particular sun signs were a running theme among serial killers. I can't say that I'm surprised that Scorpio serial killers are rare. Scorpios usually don't go around hurting random people. They need a particular reason to really harm someone, which is why they're more likely to commit crimes of passion. Serial killers usually kill a series of people who share something in common--gender, age, race, etc, but usually these victims are strangers to the serial killer. In other words, these victims don't actively incur the wrath of the serial killer; they become victims simply because they fall into a particular category of which they have no control. IP: Logged
annaf Knowflake Posts: 60 From: Registered: Jun 2009	posted February 23, 2009 11:00 AM Here is a link to Ted Bundy's profile on astrotheme http://www.astrotheme.fr/en/portraits/638gG3XPTnd4.htm What I found interesting is how overwhelming his fire influence is (more than 55%) and how strongly water he is as well. I guess for some reason I would have assumed more air in his chart to explain the level of detachement he displayed to his crimes. But this fire and water mix just shows how spontaneously he acted out his murderous impulses. Plus moon conjucnt mars and moon opposite uranus show, he instinctively, spontaneously acts out what he feels or what suddenly comes to mind. Also interesting is that jupiter is his strongest planet....He displayed incredibly risky behaviour when he kidnapped some of his victims. So daring it reflects how confident he felt 'luck' (jupiter) would be on his side and he wouldnt be caught. I guess strong jupiter influence can be described as over-confidence. John Wayne Gacey 's chart http://www.astrotheme.com/portraits/2d64Sg4A77Zs.htm Strong pisces/neptune influence I havent looked at too many of these charts, but just looking at these two gives me a feeling that there's nothing really in their charts that would make me run for the hills screaming 'serial killer'. If I didnt know that Ted Bundy's chart is a violent chart, I could just as easily analyse it as this being the chart of a charismatic passionate person who fights for what he feels (that could for instance be a human rights lawyer of what not Similarly with John Wayne Gacey's chart - Lots of neptune in his chart with mars in gemini. Again, if I didnt know whose chart it was I wouldnt dream in a million years that there#s anything wrong with the chart owner. All that pisces mixed with the mars in gemini could for instance belong to an immensely creative writer. IP: Logged
Libralove09 unregistered	posted February 23, 2009 11:05 AM ted bundy was heavily influenced by scorpionic behavior. he was very very manipulative, and thats how he lured sooo many women, and his charm (leo riser?) for example, he dressed as a police officer and told one of his would-be victims her car had been broken into, asked her to come police station with him (and she did! and he almost killed her in the car, but she got away) his most common practice was to appear to be in need of help (using crutches etc) and would ask for help to get things to his car. very manipulative. his sexual violence was deeply influenced by scorpio for sure? sexual sadism. thats scorpionic. if you listen to bundies interviews etc, he clearly explains his secretive, potent destructive side in his sexual nature, and how he kept it secret from everyone. that all sounds scorpio to me. i disagree about everyone making excuses for scorpio, i do not believe its the signs that make the serial killer, i believe its the aspects. and when scorpio is involved, you can bet its gonna be nasty. green river killer had a scorpio moon i think, do you think he has a scorp moon based on this pic? p.s., where do these astrothemes get there birth times from? im honestly doubting they asked all these famous people for there birth times, or there parents if the person is deceased. like for example, i really think ted bundy was a scorpio moon rather than sadge, not only is it tight, but his eyes just seem intense to me, in a scorpio way? anyone else see it here? : those eyes look scorp to me. IP: Logged
annaf Knowflake Posts: 60 From: Registered: Jun 2009	posted February 23, 2009 11:31 AM even if astrotheme birthtime happened to be wrong Bundy's birthdate is a fact. And based on this birthday his moon is definitely moon in sagittarius - putting in the earliest possible birthtime shortly after midnigth will give him a moon in sagitt at 6� and putting in the latest possible birthtime almost 24 hours later will still give him moon in sagittarius at 18�. But he IS strongly scorpionic, no doubt, check out the astrotheme profile and you'll find towards the bottom of the page the sign influences in his chart - scorpio is by far the strongest sign in his chart!! IP: Logged
Melynna unregistered	posted February 23, 2009 11:33 AM I've read somewhere that most of serial killers had a Cappy Moon IP: Logged
Libralove09 unregistered	posted February 23, 2009 11:37 AM ah, they look intense. what about the green river killer? he killed more women than bundy. his motives were very "detatched". "i wanted to kill as many ****** as i could" aqua sun i believe? IP: Logged
emma_duncan Knowflake Posts: 128 From: Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 23, 2009 11:41 AM i had read abt some statistical study about profiles of murderes and most of them had sagg or capricon moon IP: Logged
Astra Knowflake Posts: 1168 From: Pluto Registered: Apr 2009	posted February 23, 2009 12:52 PM Sag moons can look intense. Sag suns have a jovial look in their eyes, but the sag moons can definitely have an intense, fearless gaze. It seems to be characteristic of fire moons. Also, Bundy has moon trine pluto--pluto adds intensity to anything it touches, which gives his moon a scorpionic feel. He also had venus in scorpio square his leo ascendant--both signs are deeply passionate and his venus rising in scorpio would add an even more intense look to his features. IP: Logged
Libralove09 unregistered	posted February 23, 2009 01:21 PM nicely spotted astra! i wish i had intense eyes! IP: Logged
aqua/scorp unregistered	posted February 23, 2009 01:28 PM "Also, Bundy has moon trine pluto--pluto adds intensity to anything it touches, which gives his moon a scorpionic feel. He also had venus in scorpio square his leo ascendant--both signs are deeply passionate and his venus rising in scorpio would add an even more intense look to his features." So therefore due to the Moon-Pluto aspect he has a "Hades Moon". IP: Logged
Libralove09 unregistered	posted February 23, 2009 01:30 PM why is it called a hades moon? and why is it a big deal? (curious)? IP: Logged
aqua/scorp unregistered	posted February 23, 2009 01:34 PM Like someone said above Pluto adds intensity to anything it "touches" and making aspects to the Moon is another topic.. Pluto=Hades "Hades Moon" is when the Moon and Pluto form a tight aspect in ones Natal. Theres a book on this and plenty of info on the Web if you are interested. IP: Logged
Atlenta unregistered	posted February 23, 2009 02:35 PM Apparently, most serial killers are Geminis or Sagittarians, which is surprising since neither of these signs have a reputation for cruelty. Why do you think most serial killers are born under these two signs? to answer the original question posed, I think because Sagittarians think they're God - they have a god complex - jolly ol' jupiter is big enough for anything! - so with an affliction, the god complex can go haywire, and bring in the fun and challenge in killing. for geminians, I believe it's the mental aspect that has gone awry. since killers are predominantly psychologically disturbed, the geminian, in their quest to bring out a thought from the cloud of synaptic barrage, may have an ongoing negative thinking streak that fuels the erratic behaviour. IP: Logged
Libralove09 unregistered	posted February 23, 2009 02:37 PM this is why ted bundy is the most famous one, he seemed so 'normal', he has hardly any gemini influence from what i saw on his chart. yet he was still mentally a sociopath. i think he was diagnosed with bipolar though. IP: Logged

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