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Author Topic:   Glue aspects in Synastry - Other Than Saturn
MyVirgoMask
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posted May 21, 2009 07:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting, Eve. I've never thought about that. It would make sense though.

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posted May 21, 2009 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgovenusleo     Edit/Delete Message
I would say Umm Pluto contacts too They like Make a Blue cord with the person ever have pluto synastry with someone its devastating. Saturn sqaures Are GLue. I dunno why People look at them as bad really you stick together with said. Someone hitting your vertex someone on your nodes of the moon.

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posted May 21, 2009 08:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for eve     Edit/Delete Message
MVM - My family members all have it with one another, my SO has it with his family, & I have it with my SO, my exes, and with most of my close friends.

Check it out with your VIPs. Its ubiquity will blow your mind. I guarantee it.

I included angles as being part of our natal hard aspects. For example, the narrowest hard aspect one of my best friends has is Mars square her ASC. My Mercury sits exactly on her DSC, giving her a zero degree t-square through our synastry. Synastry conjunctions to angles are significant on their own, but her natal hard aspect probably makes it even more important.

Now I'm wondering if this is part of why angle contact in synastry is so important. The angles are the tense aspects every chart features, a pulling outward from our soul into the opposing dimensions of human life. Someone touching one of our angles is touching this most basic tension inside us.

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posted May 21, 2009 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelyleo     Edit/Delete Message
virgovenusleo, can you explain the pluto thingy. His mars conjucts 1degree my pluto and juno in virgo 8th and 9th house. and His pluto uranus vertex conjucts my venus, juno, pluto and about 5 degrees off uranus.

Eve is this narrow hard aspects?

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posted May 21, 2009 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Virgovenusleo     Edit/Delete Message
Mars conjunct pluto Lots and lots of mhm XD.. This sounds like its very fated

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posted May 21, 2009 10:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lovelyleo     Edit/Delete Message
mhm XD what's that?

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posted May 22, 2009 02:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for origami_salami     Edit/Delete Message
"mhm XD what's that?"

I'm guessing it's something along the lines of, "bow-chicka-bow-wow."

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posted May 22, 2009 02:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for origami_salami     Edit/Delete Message
"Now I'm wondering if this is part of why angle contact in synastry is so important. The angles are the tense aspects every chart features, a pulling outward from our soul into the opposing dimensions of human life. Someone touching one of our angles is touching this most basic tension inside us."

I think this nails it. I've found the angles to be SO important in synastry -- and contacts to them, either with planets-to-angles or angles-to-angles, seems to be strong enough to overcome otherwise lackluster synastry. I've seen charts that don't have many interaspects but that feature a lot of angle action, and the relationships that come from them tend to be quite significant.

I think they can sometimes indicate one-sided attractions. I had very poor synastry with one of my exes, and I never felt much chemistry with him -- but he was mad for me, practically planning the wedding and naming our children. Nothing in his chart touched any of my angles, whereas I had Mars/Chiron on his MC and Saturn exactly on his IC. He felt the "glue;" I did not.

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posted May 22, 2009 06:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
is this touching of the angles inclusive of all aspects, or just conjunctions?

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posted May 23, 2009 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for libraschoice7     Edit/Delete Message
I would say Node an Vertex contacts, Node Opposition Node, seemed to be be one that kept me glued to the longest relationship I have ever had which was 9 years.

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posted May 23, 2009 07:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Also half a cycle of the nodes.

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posted May 23, 2009 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kismet*     Edit/Delete Message
I have a friend whose sun is exactly conjunct my DC, moon on my sun, venus on my mars, SN on my ASC, and I feel no sexual or emotional attraction toward this person, however he is crazy about me.

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posted May 23, 2009 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
aww crabbypatty!
i havent checked this thread for a while and i missed yr email!!

kismet i had kind of the same w someone and theres probably an affliction to yr saturn or mars from his planets

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posted May 23, 2009 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for scrappydog     Edit/Delete Message
This topis inspired me to go look over a bunch of my charts and compare the synastry. I've always thought that powerful synastry is usually the sun or moon conjunct the asc/desc axis, strong pluto and saturn aspects, and close node conjunctions. After looking over several synastry charts i've had with people where the relationship is still ongoing, three I all met when i was 12 and we are still close friends, one of who I married twice. The main thing I found was an overwhelming saturn, the nodes and angles where a little less significant, BUT that was only in my relationships. With the man I married twice and am still friends with after 17 years my saturn squared his sun and moon by one and three degrees, his saturn oppose my moon 1 degree, saturn square saturn. The friend saturn conjunct the asc 0 degrees, saturn conjunct venus 1 degree, saturn square mars 3 degrees. Another friend moon conjunct saturn, saturn square saturn 0 degrees. I think the others where mainly sun or moon on asc/desc, sometimes moon on ic. Venus pluto and moon pluto too I think can be a kind of glue.

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posted May 23, 2009 07:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for crabbypatty     Edit/Delete Message
It's all good A! Will shoot you off an email once I am back home at my PC... typing on my Sidekick is too hard and I have a lot to say!

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posted May 23, 2009 08:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alia     Edit/Delete Message
what is a narrow hard aspect anyway?
narrow by orb ?

i do think node opp/conj tie a synastry quite tightly. no experience so far w vertex and antivertex.

lot of conflicts w ppl aspectin my moon esp close conjunctions.

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posted August 25, 2009 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
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posted August 25, 2009 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message
My Aries Sun CONJ My BF's Moon and vertex in his 7th house.

I read somewhere about the Vertex as being an important connection....

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posted August 26, 2009 12:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Edit: ok I just needed to get that out, but yeah what if the other person is astrologically impaired, like wouldn't that be unfair to the person because they are at a disadvantage of how the energies in the relationship will "probably" work out.

Only the person studying synastry will have the upper hand in the equation..

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posted August 26, 2009 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
So the astrology person would be the Pluto person

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Cheshire Kat
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posted August 26, 2009 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Lol, MVM yes those poor people I have to confess that when the synastry chart of me and my Aries friend was going through some rough transits I kept my distance.

She was clueless has to how I knew she wanted to be by herself. (_V_)

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posted August 26, 2009 03:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for leapinglemur14     Edit/Delete Message
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posted August 26, 2009 04:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I think the 10th house is more binding than that - considering it's right at one of the angles, the MC. My ex threw his 11th house stellium close to my 10th and made all kinds of aspects to my 10th/MC and we were married. Angles in general, I think, are very binding.

I think I also agree with Jane's observation about a person's tightest aspects in their chart being fused with another's planet, creating a weird glue. It's almost like you integrate yourself into their chart (or vice versa).... kind of like a cuckoo

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posted August 26, 2009 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bopbop     Edit/Delete Message
What about Juno? I know it is supposed to be the "marriage" asteroid but doesn't it kinda mean long-term commitments in general, too?

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posted August 26, 2009 04:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Eh, Juno never meant diddly squat for me. I find it more about sexual attraction.... and I hardly find it binding.

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