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Cheshire Kat
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posted May 18, 2009 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
I know people in the astrology community say that astrology as (no) specific gender identifications but lets be honest it does. I am not trying to say lesbian couples are vastly different from straight couples but there is a bit of difference..

Synastry always goes on about how some asteroids are "man" based and some "woman" based or how women and man identify with different planets more..

After reading the the synastry threads, I am pretty sure some synastry is gender based..mainly on Hetros..

Im just curious is there any synastry based on lesbian couples you can point out to me..?

Or am I just being dumb lol.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted May 18, 2009 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I don't really regard the aspects in term of gender at all (No. really. I am being honest here.)

Never mind what astrological cookbook interpretations tell you. Mars and Venus are two different archetypal energies which are within all of us. I can be Mars. I can be Venus. I can be the moon and the sun.
I have all of that in my own chart, and so do you. We all do.

Sorry, I can't come up with any examples right this sec because I'm kind of working
I guess some people might point you to the more feminine planets for synastry, or even asteroids....but I'm not really big on asteroids besides Ceres, Pallas, and BLM (not an asteroid though) .

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posted May 18, 2009 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kismet*     Edit/Delete Message
Well, there are certain apects for gay men, like moon in hard aspect to uranus. Maybe this is a start.

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posted May 18, 2009 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kismet*     Edit/Delete Message
Well, there are certain aspects for gay men, like moon in hard aspect to uranus. Maybe this is a start.

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Kismet*
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posted May 18, 2009 06:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kismet*     Edit/Delete Message
Well, there are certain aspects for gay men, like moon in hard aspect to uranus. Maybe this is a start.

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MyVirgoMask
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posted May 18, 2009 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, why does it say there are 4 responses here and I only see one?

EDIT. Ah, there you are LOL

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posted May 18, 2009 07:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Which is why I don't subscribe to the "WIMMINZ ARE MORE IN TUNE WITH THEIR MOONS AND VENII AND MANS IDENTIFY MORE WITH THEIR MARS AND SUNZ" astrological descriptions.

Bunch of bs. I pretty much ignored my emotions until I started studying astrology because it's easier for me to intellectualize it. I'm even born on a Moon day during a Moon hour lol.

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Cheshire Kat
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posted May 18, 2009 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
MVM, the cookbook interpetations confuse me sometimes, they are so vague and confined. I feel I can't really identify with synastry, unless I am doing synastry for a close friend(s).

Kismet- I remember Uranus being a link, maybe I should start there.

Amowls- Lol yeah I don't really feel all the gender cookie cutting placements, thats why I am so confused.

I am just really curious, though to me synastry is not gender based but I hear how the man's so and so connect a woman's so and so and I am thinking do I just look at as two women.

See this is what I get for getting in touch with old skeptical friend on facebook lol.

"What about synastry for us lesbians uh uh?"...She's a real Scorp to the bone >_>

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posted May 18, 2009 08:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
I just see us all as human, Cheshire, which is kind of why I don't ascribe to any particular planet for sexual orientation.

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Cheshire Kat
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posted May 18, 2009 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with that MVM, my old friend is being a bit of the skeptical hard-boiled egg right now and I am pressing the Universe way to hard for answers

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posted May 18, 2009 09:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for good girl     Edit/Delete Message
I'm not sure I understand. I mean synastry is the comparision of the charts between two people.

If you understand natal then it is easily applied to synastry....I mean mars will always show how you sexually pursue, venus how you attract, moon what you need, sun who you are becoming, etc. And the aspects how well those things do or don't get met by the other person.

If you're talking about natally a chart that "shows" a woman is lesbian, then the classics are the feminine planets in very traditionally masculine signs like Aries. And planets like uranus or neptune closely aspecting moon/venus.

Before even comparing charts venus in anyone's chart will represent women, particularly young women, and moon older women. That kind of stuff doesn't change.

So I guess I don't understand why there has to be gay synastry when I think synastry is synastry is synastry, and so on.

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posted May 18, 2009 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Your friend is probably going to be skeptical in general if she doesn't know astrology....
Hmmm....I don't know.
Have you done a Google search ?

I found these sites...but I really don't know how good they are :\
http://lestrology.com/
http://astroqueer.tripod.com/lesbian-stars/index.html
http://books.google.com/books?id=7kD2K9wreEIC&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=lesbian+astrology&source=bl&ots=HXPL5ZxPaf&sig=o7g2hqtpbchkLsr6HHLzpoi2f-g&hl=en&ei=7gYSSqrxA4nFtgeTq_WECA&sa=X&oi=b ook_result&ct=result&resnum=3

Hope these help a little at least

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posted May 19, 2009 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
my maternal uncle Eddie has Moon-Descendant in Aquarius oppose Uranus-Ascendant in Leo, and he's not gay

He's Portuguese,Mexican,and Puerto Rican.

His first wife was Filipino,and he has 2 children with her

His second wife was blue eyed blonde,and he has a 3rd child with her


He is divorced now

he has a rebellious,unconventional streak


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posted May 19, 2009 01:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah, I have Moon oppose Uranus too.
I'm female and like men. A lot.
So Uranus isn't really that telling, IMO, about sexuality.
However, like Raymond says, it does talk about a degree of rebellion and nonconformity.

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posted May 19, 2009 02:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for blue moon     Edit/Delete Message
It's not directly relevant to your question but:-
http://astroqueer.tripod.com/

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posted May 19, 2009 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
As someone who has done extensive synastry readings for Lesbian Couples, I must say that all astrological synastry is ASBOLUTELY VALID for gay/lesbian couples.

The same tenderness, the same heartburns, the same excitement of the chase for the very same love asteroids and aspects [including Sabian Symbols] which I found in straight couples is there in same-sex couples. The only additional effect is from Asteroid Sappho.

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posted May 19, 2009 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Coffee     Edit/Delete Message
Synastry is based on the relationship between 2 events. Events like the birth of a person, country, object, idea.
Comparing two of these events with each other.

The normal application of this involves 2 people. Man, Woman.

I guess the majority of time it is done for Man/Woman in a personal relationship.
Man/Man - Woman/Woman is done the same as Man-Woman.

Not only for personal relationships, but for friends, co-workers too.

Not much difference/bias when doing synastry.

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Glaucus
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posted May 19, 2009 08:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message

synastry definitely works with relatives like parent and child


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posted May 19, 2009 09:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
It does make you question some "pet - theories" of certain astrologers, though.

Like; Mars in a female chart signifies her ideal man and Venus in a male chart signifies his ideal woman.
Now what if there is a gay man who doesn`t have an ideal woman?
And a lesbian woman who doesn`t have an ideal man?


Well, it never has been my "pet-theory", so I probably should not mind.

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Cheshire Kat
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posted May 20, 2009 07:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you guys for the responses, I just told her synastry is really gender neutral.X3

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posted May 22, 2009 07:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
I often do synasty charts for me with women. All those hot aspects seem to make sense. Sappho does seem to play a part.

I view this topic in regard to astrological synastry as the blending of two people's Yin/Yang energy.

For example, the other day while out shopping, I was wondering about my Yin/Yang energy and what it would look like if I could see it - and weirdly enough, at that moment, I saw a workmate whom I often think of, as having a similar Yin/Yang energy as myself!!

It was just plain weird to see her while I was thinking about my own energy because I think the synastry I have with this person is wholly potent.

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posted May 28, 2009 08:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ScorpioCentaur     Edit/Delete Message
I think all synastry rules apply to same sex relationships too...
Have you ever looked into Ellen Degeneres' chart and that of her wife Portia diRossi?
They have very very similar charts.. I can't remember exactly..but I believe a womans 2 major sexual attractors are her sun and mars placements and they both have the same placements..
They are both sun in Aqua and Mars in Sag.
When I'm looking at opposite sex synastry I first look at the womans sun and mars compared to the mans moon and venus.
For example, my ex of 6 years is moon in sag and venus in taurus..and I am sun in scorpio and mars in sag.
So I guess for same sex relationships I would compare first- both womens sun and mars signs and with men their moons and venuses.
I love to prove this point to people who argue the theory.. by telling them to do a little research on IMDB.com- Look up some celebrities and their husbands/wives/boyfriends/exes-get their birth data and compare charts, these rules almost always apply. There is often a strong aspect- conjunction, opposition.. between the sun/moon and venus/mars.

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posted May 28, 2009 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Just a thought, everyone has masculine and feminine sides, whether they are hetero, homo or bi.

And whichever side of us is activated in a synastry, we might be more masculine or feminine towards our partner. So in a hetero relationship, a girl can be the one pursuing a guy too (overly activated Mars? XD ); and in a gay/lesbian relationship, depending on whose masculine/feminine side is more activated, this person might be more/less active in the chase of the other.

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Cheshire Kat
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posted May 29, 2009 12:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the additional responses.

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