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Topic: I am so DIGGING this guy!!!
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Glaucus
Knowflake Posts: 424
From: Sacramento,California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 15, 2009 07:36 PM
 
I only include actual objects in a t-square
mainly the planets actually. therefore, I wouldn't count the lunar nodes nor the Ascendant/Descendant axis nor the Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis. They are significant in aspects though.Using chiron in aspect patterns can be iffy too, then that opens the door for the use of the other over 60 centaurs in our solar system. I feel the same way about Pluto, if we use dwarf planet,Pluto...then might as well as use the other kuiper belt objects, and they number into the thousands. The large ones like the dwarf planets,Eris,Makemake,Haumea could be significant. the orbs should be very small like 30 minutes of arc or even smaller. I think something like Sedna, the orbs should be like 5 minutes. It's too generational with its over 10,000 year orbit.
Raymond
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comica23
Knowflake Posts: 165
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posted June 15, 2009 07:58 PM
T-squares are harder than other simple squares and oppositions in the charts, that they can represent the main issues that are present in the person/relationship/situation. But in the end, it really depends on how each of us sees them as and deal with them, whether alone (natal charts) or with our partners (synastry/composite).Putting astrology aside, there's often problems in every kind of relationships. Of course that if a relationship is not healthy overall and only causes unhappiness and lack of growth for each other would be better to be terminated, but then again, if a relationship is overall good, and the problems seems solvable by time, then it might be worth giving it a try. Personally, I just think that we don't really give up important relationships just coz there are problems - coz if so, then we could as well give up almost all of our relationships - and when we don't try to learn to overcome the problems, we might as well encounter these very same problems in our future relationships. But then again, it's important to keep it realistic, and see if a relationship is really overall healthy and brings happiness and growth to each other or not. IP: Logged |
lotion
Knowflake Posts: 19
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Registered: Jun 2009
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posted June 15, 2009 07:59 PM
Peri, i guess there is somewhat of a superiority complex in our relationship. I dont know if the same can be said about him but i feel like I'm always looking up at him to the point of idolization lolcomica, thanks for ur input. To be honest, we've been together for almost 2 years now and someone i just cannot look at him and analyze him objectively in terms of astrology. I have an impression of him, but I cant really say "oh this is how that t-square is manifested in him!" I'm not sure if you know what I'm saying :S Glaucus, thanks for such an in depth reply! You know i looked into the possibility of a grand cross but the mar-moon opposition is quite loose (13). The thing is his mars sun-moon t-square is quite loose itself (9/10) and my jupiter squares his sun-moon by 3-4 degrees (is this even too loose to be taken into consideration in synastry?). Having said that, i do feel the "excess" and "indulgence" you're talking about. As a couple we are very much so, sometimes even to the point of reckless. But individually, we're both quite reserved (i have saturn conj asc, and he has virgo asc/mars). And there is definitely aggravation in the relationship, though mostly on small things.
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lotion
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posted June 15, 2009 08:12 PM
comica23, word!
that's why i'm so into astrology (though comparatively a newb) because i find it helps me understand things better. though, being realistic sure is hard when neptune is involved :S IP: Logged |
Glaucus
Knowflake Posts: 424
From: Sacramento,California
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted June 15, 2009 08:17 PM
I wouldn't count the Sun,Moon,Mars being a t-square because the orbs are too wide. I use more than 5 degree orbs,but I will stretch aspects to 6 degrees though, if it involves the luminaries or angles or completes an aspect pattern...that's just for natal thoughYour Jupiter square his Sun-Moon opposition is a t-square though. I think it's one of the easiest t-squares to deal with because with Jupiter, it can feel so good,optimistic,and fortunate....especially if Jupiter is conjuncting or opposing Sun/Moon midpoint. You're lucky that it's not Mars,Saturn,nor the outerplanets. T-squares involving both luminaries can be very challenging too. Raymond IP: Logged |
meta_4
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posted June 15, 2009 08:18 PM
Scrappy,I think you need to study YOUR natal chart and HIS natal chart before you go thinking anything bad about your synastry. If you have a t-square, ok, that could cause issues. However, if you both have heavy charts, then this is probably the ideal relationship for you both. When you have negative aspects in your natal chart you seek out others, and relationships, that are as "harsh" as you are. Why? Because they get it. They can empathize. There is a level of understanding that isn't present in "lighter" people and relationships. SO don't panic. If his natal is similar to yours, and your synastry, then it's not as big of an issue. Now... if he's all trines and sextiles you might want to have a good cry, lol! IP: Logged |
comica23
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posted June 15, 2009 08:58 PM
lotion, yeah actually I also can't analyze my bf objectively in terms of astrology.. in fact, I never really took a deep look at his natal chart or our synastry. ^_^; The only chart I have ever read deeply is my own natal chart lol.
Being with my bf for 3 years and almost half, I can intuitively get him and I also know him, yet I often avoid taking it for granted (not assuming that what I think I know about him is 100% right).Yeah Neptune can be quite tricky, although in my case it's rather about confusions than idealizations. How to explain it.. Well, sometimes his loving nature seems confused to me (Venus square Neptune), coz it's slightly different from what I've always known about love relationships - you see, when something isn't exactly how we thought it should be, we might feel confused, wondering if everything is alright. "He's not being affectionate with me.. is there something wrong?", yet in fact there was nothing wrong - it's just I couldn't feel his affection coz he has his own way of showing it, in a way which I didn't understand at first. But after knowing him for some time, I start to be able to understand his loving nature better. *edited* Well, having natal Sun square Neptune, and Neptune being my DC ruler and prominent in my chart, you can say that I've always had some image about how relationships works.. without actually having been one before. But when I started being with my bf, things weren't exactly like how I always imagined it to be, which caused confusions often. ^_^; Took me some time to understand him, and it still does lol. IP: Logged | |
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