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SparklingSag
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posted July 08, 2009 12:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
Hey guys
Have started dating a scorpio (16/11/83) whom i've known for a year. I'm Saggie (26/11/83) We got together last week cause we always liked each other and things happened fast. So going well, spending time together. I got ill and he was very caring.

So then I was surprised to discover he was in Prague! He left for a week without telling me, I only found out through inviting him out to something.

As a saggie, I hate lying or deceit. Why the hell didn't he think to tell me? One text is all it would have taken. He's gone alone to Prague which makes me think he might be cheating.My intuition is telling me its not good. There he is telling me we are boyfriend and girlfriend and he loves being with me etc.

I don't believe any of it.

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Peri
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posted July 08, 2009 12:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
I think maybe you should not jump into conclusion if you don't know him well, if you do, listen to your intuition. Did you ask him why he did not tell you?

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SparklingSag
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posted July 08, 2009 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
He isn't back yet...he comes back on Sunday. I am mad (i have lost of fire) and i don't want to be played. I sent him a easy going text to say hope he has fun and will see him when he comes back.

I dont know what to think...he says he would never cheat on me.

Why am I being so paranoid? I feel like ringing him up but thats being obsessive.

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Peri
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posted July 08, 2009 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
talk to him when he is back and explain how you feel and see what he's got to say

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taurusvirgoleolady1974
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posted July 08, 2009 12:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message
did he text you back? what did he say?

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Nine
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posted July 08, 2009 12:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
Sun in Pisces, and Moon in Pisces will have a lot of secrets. People born on the 7, 16, and 25 are no different. They love keeping secrets, finding out other people's secrets. Yes, they will spy on you.

They are sensitive, romantic, caring, and easily led astray in romance.. But Scorpio being what they are, there will be a lot of lies and withholding of information. If honesty, openness, and free-flow of ideas you're looking for, not gonna happen.

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Peri
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posted July 08, 2009 12:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peri     Edit/Delete Message
I dont think it would be wise to trust one because he has Sun in Pisces and distrust another because he has Sun in Scorpio, it is not that simple.

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downtomars
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posted July 08, 2009 12:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message
Funny thing is - I dated a Scorpio with Pisces moon, born on the 16th, and he was very duplicitous as well.

I ended up leaving him - the little secrets, lies and omissions that would pop up out of the blue got to be too much.

If you don't get out now, the back and forth and on and off will go on forever. It is not worth it.

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comica23
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posted July 08, 2009 12:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
He's just born 2 days after my bf, and I can sure trust my bf.

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oneruledbymars
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posted July 08, 2009 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
Peri is right Sparkling Sag.
Astrology is awesome it tells you alot about people, and your relationships with them but you cannot go by Astrology alone.
If you feel like he is cheating on you then you need to ask yourself, Why?
Its really not his problem that you feel that way, it is yours. You are responsible for the way you feel, regardless of what circumstances are around you. Perhaps he should have told you where he was going yes.
And maybe you should address that, by telling him that the next time he goes out of town you would appreciate him telling you so you wont make any plans to include him.
This puts boundaries around a situation and based how he acts you will know if he respects you or not.
But you cannot just assume that he is cheating or allow that situation to upset you. Anger is a lower level emotion that clouds judgement when you indulge it. Feel it yes, that is natural but dont indulge it. When you do that with any lower level emotion, you allow your energy to be harvested because of the lower level frequency you are vibrating to while experiencing that emotion.
Otherwise remember these to thoughts when dealing with people and situations.
Never take things personal.
Never assume things.

Those are two Toltec principles, and I love them. I read them in a book one time, and I have never forgotten them. They really help in situations like this.
I think there is a book about them called the 4 Agreements, you should check it out.

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Nine
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posted July 08, 2009 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
I don't think it would be wise to trust one because he has Sun in Pisces and distrust another because he has Sun in Scorpio, it is not that simple.

True, there is good and bad to every sign. The Scorpio/Pisces combination in all it's permutations is capable of a depth of emotional honesty & integrity, coupled with compassion, selfness and deep spirituality not seen in any other combination. On the flip side you may have a person trapped in a world of lies, deceit, and unconscionable emotional cruelty.

When a relationship starts out on this note, it's not hard to see which individual you're dealing with.

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posted July 08, 2009 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I have Sun,Mercury,Venus in Scorpio along with Moon in Pisces

a lot of men cheat. That's a fact of life.
It seems that the more testosterone a man has, the more likely he will be promiscuous. I don't think most men were made to be monogamous.

I don't think that it really matters what their sunsign nor any other placement in his chart. The same significators for cheating could also be the same significators for being cheated on just like the same significators for being abuser tend to be the same significators for being abused.

even hard aspects to sexual planets aren't necessarily cheating indicators, they can easily indicate things like hormonal imbalances which have nothing to do with one's sexual orientation.

men with extremely highly levels of testosterone are more likely to cheat, and men with considerably less levels of testosterone are more likely to be monogamous.

ironically, many women tend to be naturally drawn to men with higher levels of testosterone for their sexiness while men with considerably lower levels of testosterone and possibly high estrogen levels are seen as more likely to just be friends.


I don't think that it takes intuition to know that a man can't be trusted when he has gone to a place without telling you. Common sense would tell anybody that if a person leaves to another place without telling them, it's a sign of dishonesty and disrespect to the feelings of the partner.

when secrets are being kept from another,then it's logical to believe that deception is going on.

If there is lack of trust in a relationship, then well....it could be a time to move on. I don't think that any healthy relationship could exist without complete trust.


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posted July 08, 2009 01:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
i would be ticked if someone i was dating didnt even tell me they were leaving and took off for a week. unless of course it is a VERY casual relationship. then the word, cheating, wouldnt be an issue or a word used..

i guess the real question is can you trust your gut instinct? are your instincts generally right about people?

if and i am saying if, he is gone with another woman would that make you not want to see im anymore?

usually vacations are planned well in advance, maybe this was planned before you started seeing him, if that is the case and you really like him and he really likes you, he probobly will tell you the truth and it will just be something to work through.

if you sense it, but he doesnt come forward about it, i would be hesitant to make ANY kind of committment to him or let yourself get too open or close.. and it wouldn't hurt to plan your own little vacation...everybody needs some time away.

if he is boyfriend boyfriend with , we aren't going to see other people talk, then i would definately ask him why he didn't mention it and i would ask who was he with.

most people dont vacation very often alone unless it is for work.

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SparklingSag
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posted July 08, 2009 01:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
hey all,

thanks for input. Its more the prinicple of it I guess thats upset me. He texted me back when I had invited him to a night out to tell me he was in prague but would be returning on Sunday. I think I have jumped to conclusions re: the cheating. I think he has friends in Prague and decided to go visit them.I'll just enjoy my week with work and friends and talk to him when he gets back. My dad used to cheat on my mum and so I think sometimes that jumps out at me (even if logically theres so evidence in this situation of it)

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downtomars
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posted July 08, 2009 01:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message
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True, there is good and bad to every sign. The Scorpio/Pisces combination in all it's permutations is capable of a depth of emotional honesty & integrity, coupled with compassion, selfness and deep spirituality not seen in any other combination. On the flip side you may have a person trapped in a world of lies, deceit, and unconscionable emotional cruelty.

This is very true. I'm sorry that I fell into the trap of "astrologism" - I would not want anyone to think that people act just one way because of their sun sign. I was hurt by one Scorpio,that doesn't reflect how all of them are or will be.

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cpn_edgar_winner
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posted July 08, 2009 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
wish i had some friends in prague to go visit.

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SparklingSag
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posted July 08, 2009 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for SparklingSag     Edit/Delete Message
yeah, he has many friends all over the world.

Am feeling much more rational now and less hormonal!

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posted July 08, 2009 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message
I was born on 16.11.83 ! I'm a girl though.

If he's like me, he probably thinks it's the beginning of stages of the relationship so he prefers taking things very lightly.

But, you should call him and tell him you miss him etc because I'm usually not good at expressing things myself unless my partner does it first simply because I don't want to bore anyone with stupid details about my life or my needy nature :P But I am a romantic person deep down!

I need space too, to see if I really love someone.

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posted July 08, 2009 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Taurean_Scorpion     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with nine. just because one is a scorpio doesn't mean he will deceive nor does it mean that he values deceit or doesn't value honesty like a sag. same is true for all other signs...

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Lucia23
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posted July 08, 2009 02:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lucia23     Edit/Delete Message
Okay--it sounds like you JUST STARTED to date and have not had a conversation where you both decided that your relationship was exclusive and you would not see other people.

I've seen this misunderstanding happen between four of my friends and their new boyfriends/girlfriends in the past few months--one person thinks that once they've gone on a date/kissed, it means neither of them will date other people--the other thinks they are still seeing other people. Unless you've agreed to have an exclusive relationship, it's not "cheating" if he is still dating other people too.

Similarly, some people would think that the early stages of dating don't leave you answerable to each other, in the sense that you would report to the other that you were leaving town.

It sounds like you don't trust him and you're insecure about the relationship. It sounds like he is either really focusing on other things in his life and not that consumed by the relationship (otherwise he would've hated going away for a week and would've mentioned it to you)...or he is consciously trying to take it slow.

I don't think it's possible to tell whether to trust someone from his chart...people manifest their charts in different ways...just check out Hitler or Gandhi's natals!

It sounds like you need to take it slower too, let go a little, have a gentle talk with him letting him know where you're at with all this and finding out how he's feeling, and REALLY get quiet and tap into your intuition.

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posted July 08, 2009 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
1st: You guys have been dating for a week. Why would he cheat now? He could just end it, it's not like there's a lot of invested time here. The way you found out isn't even in a sketchy way. He told you point blank. He probably just forgot to tell you he was going.

2nd: Scorpios are known for valuing their privacy. They like to be "secretive" and "mysterious." They're not going to think to tell you things. We may see it as being "deceitful" but they think it's really none of your business to begin with. Understand that.

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posted July 08, 2009 03:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for taurusvirgoleolady1974     Edit/Delete Message
i think you should take into account that you just started dating a week ago. even though you have known him for a year, now you are in the beginning stages of an intimate relationship. i can only advise you to keep it as a mental bookmark, but dont do anything rash. you guys are getting to know eachother on a different level. definitely explain to him that it hurt your feelings that he left like that. maybe he doesnt know, and does not even have a clue. sonetimes people dont actually think about how things affect their partner. see how he responds, and see if he does it again...relationships do take work and lots of communication.

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posted July 08, 2009 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message
I misread the first part.
I didn't know that you were together only a week.

I agree with the last 3 ladies. It's in an early stage in relationship,and so it's not really firm committed relationship. It can easily change for better or worse.

amowls made great points about the Scorpio privacy/secrecy


also

transiting retrograde Jupiter-Neptune-Chiron is squaring his Sun, and that can indicate the possibility of him being hard to pin down,confusing as well as the possibility of being misjudged,misunderstood which can lead to him being hurt.

He has Mars square Neptune, and that can indicate that his actions could be misunderstood.

that's something to consider.

I doubt that he's cheating on you.

He seems like a very friendly,sociable type with Venus in Libra sextile Mercury-Uranus conjunction in Sagittarius.

Sun is his only personal planet in Scorpio. He also Saturn and Pluto in Scorpio, but they are not conjunct his Sun.

Transiting Saturn is squaring your Mercury which can indicate a possibility of trust issues which could be connected to being too critical thinking as well as possible thoughts of insecurity.
It's a good transit to keep things real though. being practical.

Raymond


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“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”
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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted July 08, 2009 05:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmm. One week of dating does not a deep commitment make. Scorpios are known for their loyalty. But they are also deeply private. He may not have felt like he owed you an itinerary! He did contact you while he was away--he didn't disappear on you.

I would wait and see how he acts when he gets back. The worst thing you could do is blow up at him.

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posted July 08, 2009 05:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
This is one of those times when I say to H-ll with astrology. Go with your instincts.

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