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Topic: Post A Composite And Describe The Relationship
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comica23 Knowflake Posts: 465 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2009 03:25 PM
vertiver, yeah the composite's dynamics aren't all relevant 'till the relationship matures more, so it takes some time for almost everything to be noticeable.IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1156 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2009 03:31 PM
I don't find composites too accurate or useful...I can sort of feel the element of mathematical default in the midpoint method. I like synastry + natals better to see "the relationship" as its own entity as well as the interaction between the two people. My relationship with my ex (15 years) matured, and the composite never really seemed to capture the relationship at any stage...whereas our synastry did. I like Davisons better too. Then again, I think the skill of the astrologer is paramount! Some astrologers are highly skilled with composites. IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 465 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2009 03:39 PM
I think that it all depends on how we interpret the signs for a system to actually work or not. But well, if we dismiss the validity of a chart based on the midpoints between the existing energies between a couple, then how can a chart based on the midpoints of time and space be more valid anyways? Also, that would mean that the midpoints in the birth charts doesn't work too. Besides, astrology itself is actually an imaginary symbolic system based on mathematics anyways (squares and sextiles doesn't really exist in the sky, we are the ones who sees them that way and give meanings to them).But the composite is actually more than it seems. Aspects to midpoints or between them also plays a role too. IP: Logged |
Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1156 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2009 04:16 PM
I agree with everything you're saying, Comica23, esp. about the Davison and the nature of astrology in general...it's just in my personal experience looking at composites with people I know (my own relationships or friends), they just for some reason feel not quite "on." I'm not sure why.It may be that I'm not quite reading them right. IP: Logged |
bopbop Knowflake Posts: 212 From: USA Registered: Jun 2009
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posted July 23, 2009 06:15 PM
Well, so far what I've noticed about these composites is that nearly all of them have a concentration of planets in one area. I've found them to be pretty accurate most of the time.IP: Logged |
Cheshire Kat Knowflake Posts: 344 From: Wonderland Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2009 06:21 PM
I've wondered what stelliums meant in synastry and composites..there's not much information on them. X_XIP: Logged |
Cheshire Kat Knowflake Posts: 344 From: Wonderland Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 23, 2009 06:32 PM
This is the composite of my Leo friend and I. Since for some reason I feel composites work great with friends and family. She's been my friend since the 7th grade, she was in the 6th grade. We can usually talk to eachother about everything. Every once in awhile we get irritated with eachother but usually we become good friends again. She has boy troubles and I just have issues lol. XD She is very relationship orientented..she needs to be in a relationship to be happy. I use to be the same way then I've mellowed out. Were both very sensitive but I usually never show it as much as she does. She wants to be writer and I would have like to be an free lance illustrator one day. We use to make books together XD lol.
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woah city Knowflake Posts: 403 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2009 02:52 AM
aerialcircus, wow.. i definitely resonated with your experience. i had two similar relationships. one guy i was with became a junkie and another guy i was with, well i discovered his incessant interest in manipulation and suicide threats. and YES it's effed up what people can do to one another. i still have not fully recovered from these incidents. i had some SERIOUS neptune action happening in progressions and transits during these two relationships and i see neptune makes some oppositions in your composite, so i wouldn't be surprised if that's the culprit..  IP: Logged |
woah city Knowflake Posts: 403 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 24, 2009 03:00 AM
here is my composite with my current lover. we tried the relationship thing but it was too fraught with lingering emotional patterns and general confusions. interestingly it seems to work much much better for us as friends who are lovers, but there is definitely a strong intimate and emotionally caring component to whatever this is. he is my best friend and we spend a lot of time together. there is a gentle, generous warmth between us and an extreme facility with understanding one anothers' (extremely) quirky mannerisms and ways of speaking/perceiving. though we are in some ways very different, even opposite, we are so similar in so many others. there is a strong affinity between us and it is never ever boring. the composite seems really easy, maybe too easy, but to me it feels supportive, nurturing and calm, which is how i would describe the overall feeling of our Thing. one interesting thing about our communication and one of the reasons we didn't work as a couple is that we tended to always feel that we were hurting the other, when what was actually happening was we were worrying we were hurting the other because of seeing pain in the other's face, and what we were actually seeing in eachothers' faces at those moments was the exact same look of concern and for the exact same reason!! so it is a total mirror effect. we are learning our way out of that one and can now laugh about it, but it happens quite often. i am not sure if it is reflected in the composite but it seems like our only real source of 'conflict'. otherwise an extremely warm and receptive (and EXCITING, very very exciting) friend/lovership. which i think the composite reflects.. IP: Logged |
Agent_009 Knowflake Posts: 78 From: LA & Vancity Registered: May 2009
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posted July 24, 2009 10:50 PM
Hi guys, thought I'd join in too....except this is a composite of one of my bestfriends of 12-YEARS, that recently went down in flames. In a nutshell, we've been friends since highschool. We're like each other's yin-yang. I'm the airy, mental analytical strategist that grounds her, and she's the firey spontaneous action initiator. However, I've always felt like I contributed ALOT more within our relationship simply because I'm the listener/supporter. She never seems to want to listen to my issues. I basically helped her start up her business by designing everything/product/packaging for her (for free cuz she's my besty). She's always wanted me to be her biz partner, as she has far more to gain with me. However I've always felt we were too different to be compatible working together, it'd only wreck our friendship. End of last year, she finally found a stable relationship with a guy who's alot like me. Suddenly my services as a friend werent needed (except she continued hassling w/biz partner proposal). The final straw came when, she was laid off from her corporate day job early this year. She had convinced me to fly over to visit her once I wrapped up a movie...since she was "bored," without work. I booked my airfare almost 2 months ahead of time. A week before my flight she asks me to cancel my flight, that she didnt want me to crash at her place...that she was in no mood to entertain cuz of her job situation. I decided to go anyways cuz if I cancelled my airfare it would be a waste of money...and I had lots of other friends I could crash with anyways. Now while I was flying over, I recieved a text from her saying she couldnt pick me up from the airport cuz traffic would be too congested due to the Superbowl?? Anyways, keep in mind we were bestfriends!! I would never ditch someone at the airport let alone a besty. When I arrived I called a friend I had only met 1 month earlier...and she drove an hour to the airport to get me. Now, after 2 days I wasnt even mad at besty anymore, just disappointed. I suppose our friendship shelf life had come to an end?? Well it wouldnt be so bad had she tried to talk to me or apologize. I just feel like until she acknowledges how she's abused our friendship, I dont want to take her back. Anyways she's avoided talking to me since Feb!!...but last week she sent a casual mssg on msn saying Hi. I didnt respond....well I kind of wanted to, but at the same time tired of her continual typical behavior of just using me. Maybe this friendship just wasnt meant to be..... IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 338 From: Formerly Missneptune Registered: May 2009
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posted July 24, 2009 11:55 PM
Here is the composite of me and my best friend. Its hilarious that everything is in the 7th house, but were not married, lol! Our friendship was pretty gradual, we were friends but I never expected us to get very close, not until after high school did we really hit it off. Now we pretty much see each other as often as possible and she a great listening Pisces Sun! IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 465 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 27, 2009 05:01 PM
Ok, guess that I should contribute as well. X3This is the composite between me and my bf (50% orb): We've been together for 3 years and 7 months, and the relationship has been warm, affectionate, fun and comfortable. ^_~ - Gemini AC - we are in fact both into technology, entertainment and video games. - Venus/Mars/Juno conjunction (Cancer) oppose Jupiter (Capricorn) - I guess that this is were it shows how our relationship is warm, affectionate and comfortable. ^_^ - Moon square Neptune - I do feel insecure from time to time.. >_<; - Yod formed by Moon/Chiron/Pluto, plus Chiron opposed to Neptune/Pluto midpoint - this is where the main problem is shown. Sometimes, we can be kinda mean to each other even if we didn't intend to, as well as not understanding each other well. But on the other hand, the good thing is, we both try to understand and be more compassionate to each other in the end. I feel that in this big configuration, my insecurities are often the trigger of it, or they can be triggered by it (and Saturn squares Moon/Neptune midpoint too, which shows that sometimes he/Saturn affects my insecurities too even if he didn't mean too, or that he would get affected by it); but the key is to find balance between the yods (in the yods, the quincunx planets are opposed to the other two planets' midpoints after all). - Moon/Saturn midpoint conjunct Jupiter/Mercury midpoint - I'm not sure about this aspect, but in fact our talks are kinda warm and joyous. IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 465 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 27, 2009 05:18 PM
And now, this is the composite between me and my best guy friend (50% orb):(note that I'm not sure if his birth time is right) We've met for almost 10 years (since 9th grade), and we're like brother and sister to each other. Even thought we have different interests, we can talk about many things with each other, and we can also have fun together. And even thought we went to different universities, we still meet from time to time. ^_~ - Mercury/Mars conjunction trine Jupiter - I guess that this aspects shows that we can have fun together in a very active way. - Sun/Saturn opposition sextile/trine Moon - this seems to show that we have some basic affinity - I've noticed that some of the charts in this thread that are about friendships also has some aspects between these 3. I didn't take a further look to the midpoint aspects. But well, in this chart, there aren't any aspects between Mars/Venus/Moon/Pluto - in fact we don't really feel any romantic attraction towards each other. ^_~; IP: Logged |
ginger cancer Knowflake Posts: 30 From: torre de hercules Registered: Jul 2009
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posted July 29, 2009 06:42 AM
aerialcircus, i truly admire you for a common sense and being able to get out of that relationship! many of us would have stayed and kept on trying fighting with the impossible and believing that this "ideal love" can change the world, and so will your ex.i don't know up to which level your ex was an addict, but with addicts, there is one thing: when you pick up savior role in a relationship with an addict, it is so easy to believe that you are the one who will change him, who will transform him. alas, people don't change. you keep trying and trying, and realize that the person in question is going back and forth to his addiction, the best thing you can do is leave. honestly, it is the best for you and your sanity. i am sorry for your waisted time, nerves, job, family, everything, but boy, what an experience you have gained! it takes lot of energy to get back to your balance, but i am sure you are already there! lots of love. IP: Logged |
alanabelle86 Knowflake Posts: 13 From: Somewhere over the rainbow Registered: May 2009
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posted July 29, 2009 07:01 AM
This is the composite chart of a very special relationship. "Bear" and I have known each other for 7 years, and we met online. After a lie (on my part), we stopped talking and lost contact for 3 years. Then, in 2007 we started talking again and agreed to meet in May 2008. After we met, we hit it off and decided to date. Our relationship has been strained by the distance but it's wonderful 95% of the time, not just on my part. He'd probably give you 98%. I have 3-4 T-Squares in my chart, he has a chart full of oppositions. Naturally, the composite has both. The Neptune opposition is interesting. I always say when we were younger (met when I was 15), the relationship was too heavy for us to work out. I think it was fated for us to meet when we're both older at a (more) stable place in our lives. ------------------ Knowledge is power. Quincunx'd http://www.quincunxd.wordpress.com IP: Logged |
comica23 Knowflake Posts: 465 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted July 29, 2009 09:55 AM
alanabelle86, just a fast look, Venus/Mercury/Jupiter conjunction is opposing Sun, so there seems to be love, and you enjoy laughing together and the company of each other. Mars conjunct Neptune oppose Moon, while Pluto sextile/trine them, so I think that there's attraction and caring feelings as well. But Pluto is squaring Sun.. some pain in the relationship? >_< quote: The Neptune opposition is interesting. I always say when we were younger (met when I was 15), the relationship was too heavy for us to work out. I think it was fated for us to meet when we're both older at a (more) stable place in our lives.
Actually, sometimes I wonder if some relationships could have been worked out better if the couple have met later, so that they were more ready and mature/stable. Yet on the other hand, certain relationships are just formed in the right time for both. In the past, I've met some people who brought changes in my life - things didn't work out well coz we were what we were in the moment, but thanks to these relationships, I am what I am today. IP: Logged |
aerialcircus Knowflake Posts: 270 From: Western Massachusetts, US Registered: May 2009
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posted July 29, 2009 11:13 AM
MVM, Lucia, bopbop, comica, WC & ginger cancer thank you guys for your support & sympathy, seriously. It took me a while to get back to this post and even read the responses because the whole experience is still such a deep bruise for me. It's not him, the PERSON, that still hurts me but the fact that it happened at all. I turned my life upside down and went all out of my way to try to please and help him, something I NEVER do, and he repayed me with.. well, what he repayed me with. It's just a tough pill to swallow, I guess.I thought I could handle the addiction, I was around it my whole life because of my father. I kind of rationalized that if anyone could help him, it would be me. And he made me think I could, too! He told me all the time that I was his only hope. 6 or so months after I left him, one of his organs ruptured, he began to bleed internally and he almost died. I heard from mutual friends that he was in the hospital for 2 weeks. Talk about guilt, right? Not even THAT woke him up, though- he hasn't changed at all, he's still killing himself daily. I have no idea if he ever even thinks of me. Our Davidson composite has Neptune in 12th Sag, opposite a Mars/N. Node conjunction in 6th Gemini, and composite Moon conjunct Asc in Capricorn, which seems to make a lot of sense. I'm still not sure what it is about composites that could have alerted me to how serious it was all going to be, though. Synastry-wise there were red flags-- a Grand Fire Trine between my Sun, his Mars, and his Nessus, for example; my Nessus directly conjunct his midheaven; his Dejaneira conjunct our Venus/Mars conjunction in Libra. (Nessus, the third centaur, relates to abuse, including psychological, sexual and otherwise. Dejaneira, mythologically, accidentally killed husband because she doubted his love for her.) Does composite energy exist only in an ideal world? Is it dependent on the mental state/current path of the individuals? IP: Logged |
EighthMoon Knowflake Posts: 54 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 02:36 PM
Hi Lara,  I started a thread trying to understand how to interpret the beginning and ending of a relationship via the composite before I saw Comica's thread here. Once I did, I practiced by looking at the charts and guessing before reading the comments. I was able to see yours w/ your ex husband pretty clearly once I'd looked at a few, and I've been pretty doubtful of composites in the past. The chart ruler is Jupiter in the 9th. The ruler of the 12th is Pluto...which conjuncts Uranus and should signify the ending of the relationship. If we look for planets in the 12th and what aspects they make, we find Neptune squaring the chart ruler, which might explain the illusion/deception that things were great in the beginning. The sun signifies the purpose in the composite of significant relationships. Yours is in the 5th, the house of children. I think the verbal abuse shows up with Mercury in the apex of a yod with that deceipt (Neptune in the 12th) and the final ending of the relationship (Pluto/Uranus conjunction.) There is a lot of pain signified with a square to the 7th house moon from the triple whammy of Venus/Saturn/NN in the 4th. Ouch. I was pondering what might show that you have to continually have contact with a person (due to children, etc) or can't completely break the tie, even if you would want to. I saw two things. One is that the end of your relationship, being the Pluto/Uranus conjunction is also conj your South Node...tied to the past. On top of that, your NN/Venus/Saturn is conjunct your IC...another tie to the past. Although your chart ruler, Jupiter is negatively linked where your ex is concerned, it shows some beautiful ties to your children and your destiny to be their Mom with a trine to the 5th house sun and the 4th house Mercury and North Node. 8th IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 103 From: South Carolina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 03, 2009 03:39 PM
Great thread! Here is a composite of my strongest romantic relationship. The Relationship: Is very mystical. We share a strong psychic connection, we do alot of communicating without talking. The sex is amazing. The companionship is great. He has resolved his Karma in this lifetime, and I found him at a time in his life where he is ready for a relationship of this kind, and I have as well. We both carry with us from many lifelines, deep wounds, but he is very well aware of them, and is careful not to project them onto me, and I try not to as well when the interactions between us cause me to revisit these times of wounding I just explore them. And I have found this is very hard to do, it sends us through deep and very fast transformations of thought patterns and paradigm shifts that are tremendous. Its very intense and though we love every minute together we have discovered that we need breaks from each other, to cleanse our psychic spaces of energy that is not our own, and as well has explore areas where our energy has expanded our mind pattern. But we basically regroup and reunite again after we have formed new boundaries and recontructed new energy pathways. Usually only takes a day or two. To say I love him is an understand statement.I dont think I had a choice And he feels the same. It will be interesting to see where this energy takes us.Here is our composite. IP: Logged |
EighthMoon Knowflake Posts: 54 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 05, 2009 07:17 PM
One Ruled,It looks like a wonderful and very spiritual relationship from the composite. Having the Sun conjunct Venus and Moon conjunct North Node are very intense karmic love indicators. I also like that the 12th house ruler is positively aspected and IS the sun conjunct Venus and Mars...wow. All the best to you! 8th IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 275 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 06, 2009 04:23 PM
Hi 8th :could you look at our composite I placed in the 1st page?what it stands out for you please? IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars Knowflake Posts: 103 From: South Carolina Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 06, 2009 10:04 PM
Aww 8th, thanks for the kind words.. You are so right Spiritual and Karmic are the two biggies for our reasons for coming together, he has really taught me what unconditional love is and for that alone he will always be one of the most exquisite people in my world.IP: Logged |
EighthMoon Knowflake Posts: 54 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 06, 2009 10:15 PM
Hi Diandra,  I had a hard time looking at the chart...too much for me at once. If you wouldn't mind posting a basic one without the asteroids for now, that might make it easier to see the patterns. 8th IP: Logged |
MsCandeh Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 07, 2009 04:00 AM
It's interesting how a lot of composites have the T square, isn't it?I feel sorry for everyone who has had to endure heartache ... it's so hard, but sometimes we have to learn that life is made up of transient moments good and bad ... nothing good lasts forever, but also, nothing bad lasts forever... and we need to make the most of what we are presented with in life - there's a reason for EVERYTHING  I'll post my composite and there is one downfall (would be interested in opinions) that we have just gone through recently (we aren't together at this point in time). I didn't really take much notice of the T squares, but I have noticed it now! I feel we lived up to our composite fairly quickly which could have been why we are the way we are now ... Hopefully my explanation of the situation isn't too boring! (cont...) IP: Logged |
MsCandeh Knowflake Posts: 224 From: Australia Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 07, 2009 04:04 AM
The Relationship: It felt very fated from the start - we both said this to each other. I had a secure comfortable job and a family friend was desperate to hire someone - the pay was $5/hr more - I was torn and I couldn't sleep (I had one day to make the decision) and chose to leave my job and take on this new job in a new industry doing something completely different. At the time I explained to everyone that I had this feeling of FATE ... and that I just had to take this opportunity .. it felt like a real crossroad in my life! (won't go into it here but it was a huge thing for me) I felt that I just HAD to take this job ... so I started the next week. We work two doors away from each other... from the first week we started taking every break together. At first I wasn't attracted to him but we just got along SO well... same tastes in everything, even furniture, he made me laugh so much and we were always silly together (even now after all the bad stuff that I am about to write, we manage to still lighten up conversation by laughing and joking!)... He was SO helpful and everytime my computer broke he would come and fixit for me .. our relationship was tender, sweet we had the warmest feelings for each other and were always nice and considerate to each other .. he would come into my office and leave an apple on my desk for when I came into work! (I was always late, him always early) ... he used to leave little notes for me ... we talked every night and every day never running out of conversation - before we got together (it took us 5 weeks to 'get together') we would keep each other up talking til 5am on the weekends... I'm sure a lot of you think this is too sickly sweet and it was lol but this is where the downfall comes in ... He told me from the start that he doesn't have a high sex drive (he does have a very good reason behind this tho) but always gives cuddles etc. I thought GREAT I won't get harrassed for sex woohooooo lol and as I have never been the one with the higher libido in a relationship I wasnt sure exactly how high mine was! Sorry if this is TMI!! Anyway, the sex dropped off to nothing .. if I mentioned it he would retreat more .. so I tried not to but it did put a strain on our relationship (but he was always cuddley) and it was strange because he would always talk the talk and make little jokes about doing naughty stuff with me but wouldn't ever follow through on it .. but then he withdrew more and more, first sex, then he would start cancelling weekends and needing alone time (I always said "tell me if you need space!") Before he started cancelling weekends we had planned to go on a holiday .. we were both stressed with work so thought it would be great to get away together. (cont..)IP: Logged | |