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Valus
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posted July 27, 2009 09:08 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

This is where daydreaming leads you...

The 12 Signs
and 12 possible associations
to the archetype of "the box"


jack-in-the-box
Springs full grown from the box, and ready for anything, -- only to be jerked back by the springs he cannot see. No worries, though; Aries always bounces back.

the thinker
It may seem incongruent, to imagine Taurus as "the thinker", but work with me here... This is, after all, the sign with Capricorn on the 9th, and Sagittarius on the 8th. Clearly, philosophy is a serious business to the bull. Mostly, though, he just sits there on the box, gradually grinding his fist into his chin. If he thinks, its about the grass, or the birds. But, then, some of the deepest (and simplest) thoughts are about the grass and the birds.

the verbal boxer
Gemini enjoys a good game of cat and mouse, and will gladly play either part, if it gets things moving. There's something deeply mystical about Gemini, though its not always apparent on the surface: not for nothing, but, this is the sign on Pisces' Imum Coeli. Gemini can make light of anything. Perhaps that is the real meaning of the old adage: "Mercury is the Sun"

the home-maker
Cancer loves the box, omg. Plays with the box, gives it pet names, and, most importantly, makes a home of it. Cancer will defend the box to his death, -- just don't ask him to come outside it. Seriously, sometimes I think Cancer mistakes the box for his own shell. Still, nobody can make the best of a bad situation like Cancer. Put him in a prison cell, and he'll paper the walls to remind you of home. Pretty soon, the cell feels like mom. Did I say "mom"? I meant home. Or did I? Hmm...

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Valus
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posted July 27, 2009 09:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
heart-shaped box
After Cancer has made it home, Leo makes it his own. He puts his heart into it. I don't even know what else to say. Leo carves his initials into it, with the sun shining and the moment so right. If he's in love, he carves his beloved's initials in, too. Underneath his own, of course. You can't expect him to give himself second billing, can you?

the organizer
Have you ever wondered how many boxes of various sizes can be fit inside "the box"? Virgo has. The virgin can immaculately conceive of all sort of ways to order, arrainge and classify the contents of the box, for more efficient utilization of its contents. Trust her, she has made a thorough inventory of the box and the sooner you learn the dewey decimal system, the sooner you'll agree: its better this way.

the artisan
Okay, so now that the box is well ordered and inventoried, its about time to give it some style. All that ordering and classifying can get a little.. well, let's just say it, boring. And, really, what's so great about this box anyway.. I mean, with all those right angles, its a little... boxy. Libra polishes and adorns the box. She makes it beautiful and inviting. What is she, anyway? Some kind of glorified interior decorator? Oops, I'm getting ahead of myself. Scorpio wants in.

the rummager
Now that the box has been well ordered and beautified, naturally, its time to gut it. Leave it to Scorpio to dig it out. All those convenient categories Virgo took such care to provide.. you guessed it: pulverized. And that gorgeous decorating job.. a hollow facade. It's okay. This is the way its been done for thousands of years.

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Valus
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posted July 27, 2009 09:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
the preacher
You know,.. if you're not using that box.. you won't mind if I stand on it for a while, would you? And you won't mind if I proclaim the truth, while I'm at it? Yes, kiddies, its time to face it; wouldn't that make a fantastic soapbox? And those pulverized bits.. don't they just glitter like gold? With true aim, the archer spots the genuine gems scattered among the debris. Did Scorpio know, when he was annihilating the surface, that such wonders would be revealed? Sag finds them.

the box-maker
Not a fanciful job, but somebody has to do it. Capricorn makes boxes for a living. It's what he does. He's got a plan, and he follows it, to the letter. Without him, can you imagine what a mess the world would be in? What's that -- you say you've got an idea for a new kind of box? A box that isn't a box? You've lost me.

the astronaut
Aquarius thinks outside the box. In fact, you could kind of say he is in orbit around it. Yeah. He's mapped the space outside the box, and has got big plans to open a healthfood store on Nebulon 13, just as soon as the good people at NASA manage to pull their neanderthal heads out of their stone-aged ***** ... Uh, er, or something.

the ghost
If Aquarius thinks outside the box, Pisces doesn't know where the box is. This fish can swim through walls. Whatsmore, she can't, or can barely, even see them. It's a good thing.

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woah city
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posted July 27, 2009 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
wow. i like it!

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posted July 27, 2009 10:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for AcousticGod     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

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GypseeWind
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posted July 28, 2009 12:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
What AG said.
And p.s. I like your daydreaming, you should daydream some more.

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Valus
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posted July 28, 2009 12:58 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
its ALL i do, gypsee

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Yin
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posted July 28, 2009 08:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Loves it. Very creative!
This part especially:

quote:
And those pulverized bits.. don't they just glitter like gold? With true aim, the archer spots the genuine gems scattered among the debris. Did Scorpio know, when he was annihilating the surface, that such wonders would be revealed? Sag finds them.

This is strangely familiar - I find all kinds of shiny things on the ground all the time, mostly jewelry(gold and silver, even found a diamond stud one time!), a lot of coins etc. Did Scorpio know?

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If Aquarius thinks outside the box, Pisces doesn't know where the box is. This fish can swim through walls. Whats more, she can't, or can barely, even see them. It's a good thing.

Sometimes there are no walls.

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lionseye***
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posted July 28, 2009 12:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lionseye***     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Brill, Valus - simply brill...

I'll take a Leo box, a Saggie box, and an Aquarius box, to go please. Oh, and throw in a Virgo box, for my Virgo stellium

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Valus
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posted July 28, 2009 02:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yin, you "lucky" Sag, you.

Always finding shooting stars in the gutter.

quote:
Sometimes there are no walls.

Spoken like a true Neptunian.

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Valus
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posted July 28, 2009 02:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

lionseye,
Thank you.

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posted July 28, 2009 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
speaking of boxes...is it your name change or has something else lifted you out of your old self? you seem well revived these days...

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posted July 28, 2009 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ginger cancer     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
thank you so much, i love the part with wallpaper - hilarious!!!!!

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Valus
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posted July 28, 2009 10:14 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
you're welcome, ginger.
thank you.


hey, kat.
I'm still me! And its just as I said it would be. I needed an understanding partner. I'm with someone now, and being with her is triggering a chain reaction of blessings through my life. Just between you and me, though, I think she smelled the mushrooms.

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posted July 29, 2009 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cristiname     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Taurus SUN does NOT have Capricorn on his 9th cusp - that'd be a Taurus Asc - so these may look good, but are kinda crappy really.

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posted July 29, 2009 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiquarianbookcollector     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Excellent Valus. However, I would think instead of rummaging, the proper term is deconstructing...

EDIT: I don't think I rummage...

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Valus
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posted July 29, 2009 10:36 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

cristiname,

Pardon me for saying so, but what a rude and ignorant comment you just made. I hope you just woke up on the wrong side of the bed or something, and this is no indication of what sort of person you are. I don't know about you, but I've read quite a few books on astrology, and they often interpret a sign according to where the other signs fall (on the housecusps) when that sign is on the ascendant. I've always wondered about this technique myself, as it does seem to apply more to the Rising Sign, than the Sun Sign. Nevertheless, this is a common practice among advanced students and practitioners. Most weekly or monthly astrology forecasts interpret the coming events according to the houses planets will fall in with your Sun Sign on the Ascendant; so, if you have ever read about your Sun Sign in a weekly or monthly collumn, you were actually reading it as though it were your Rising Sign. If that kind of astrology is "crappy" to you, you might want to just read about your rising sign, next time. Especially when the birthtime is unknown, though, charts can be interpreted with the Sun on the Ascendant, and, believe it or not, they can give surprisingly accurate results. Personally, I've found this method to be more instructive when attempting to understand the nature of a sign, rather than an individual's chart. The Taurus Ascendant can reveal a great deal about the workings of the Taurus Sun. It is no coincidence that Aries is on the 12th (or Sag on the 8th, or Capricorn on the 9th), when Taurus rises, and if you think that says nothing about the Sun sign, I suggest you take a deeper look. You can begin by reading any number of books on the subject, many of which make liberal use of this method. Hope that helps.


Fair enough, Antiquarian.

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posted July 29, 2009 10:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiquarianbookcollector     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It ruffled my sensibilities - I think I actually snorted and thought in mock indignance, "I don't rummage... I deconstruct!" Erm. Valus, do you agree? You're also a Scorpio?

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Valus
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posted July 29, 2009 11:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I am indeed. And I agree with you, "deconstructing" is a more precise term. The term "rummaging" was used because it fit the with the theme of boxes. We rummage through boxes, we dont typically deconstruct them. Anyway, you get the idea. And you make a good point.

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posted July 29, 2009 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Yin     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
cristiname, what's with the negativity?
Is it so difficult to enjoy a fun thread?
Did you see the smiley at the beginning of it?
I'm curious to see what you would have written.

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posted July 29, 2009 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Antiquarianbookcollector     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Valus, I did understand your point. Just wanted to suggest another word so "rummaging" wouldn't give off the wrong connotation.... I guess.

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Valus
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posted July 29, 2009 11:16 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

My biggest issue with earth signs.. well, I should say, the earth sign shadow (because not all earthy people do this), is that they are know-it-alls. Earth wants the world to be stable and settled, and that can cause them to deny ambiguity and to imagine that they already have the answers, when they don't. There is something so cynical about the earth shadow. It frustrates me to no end how they can be so friggin sure of themselves, and so cynical. They think they know what is real, and can be so quick to shout "fraud!"; they're always on the lookout for fakes; for things that dont make sense when brought down to earth. But they often dont know what the heck they are talking about, and its amazing to me how matter-of-factly they can just shoot somebody down, without even knowing what they are talking about. Sorry, folks. Had to get that off my chest, for some reason.

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Valus
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posted July 29, 2009 11:22 AM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

Antiaquarian,

I may or may not edit it, to assist you in that, lol. I think you make a good point, and my blurb does make Scorpio appear more purposelessly destructive than methodical. It's true, there is often a great deal of method to our madness, but, ultimately, I think we are almost purley instinctual, and, where there is method, it is subordinate to something more wild and arcane. That is what I most wanted to suggest. If I were writing more than a few sentences on it, I would be sure to hit upon the other aspects of the sign.

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Got Gemini?
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posted July 29, 2009 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Got Gemini?     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Nice!

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Virgo Asc 6˚& Mars 0˚
Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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posted July 29, 2009 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"My biggest issue with earth signs.. well, I should say, the earth sign shadow (because not all earthy people do this), is that they are know-it-alls..."

This is starting to read like another box, a shadowy box.
Shadow-boxing?


Maybe earth people just like authenticity, I don't know why that's a crime (I know I don't like BS in general).
But even that is a little bit of a generalization on my part since I've met earth-esque people who aren't interested in authenticity, nor look for it.

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