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Topic: Does it show in a chart if someone is to remain single forever?
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Lucia23 Knowflake Posts: 1028 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 28, 2009 02:11 AM
MVM, right on.Basically, any major 7th house action shows that we have ISSUES (positive, negative, happy, sad, neutral) surrounding marriage-like partnership. I mean, it is especially important to us (even if that plays out as a rebellion against it.) The Uranus in the 7th people I know personally tend to have rather wild and inconsistent love lives, but there are many issues/factors/aspects that could offset or counter that in a chart, just as there are many different ways Saturn can play out. In general, though--Saturn creates a heavy, serious, potentially constricting (sometimes painfully so) feeling in its natal house--also a sense of discipline, committment, and perfectionism. Uranus creates a sense of freedom-seeking and the desire for unpredictability in its natal house. Neither dooms us to...anything. I agree that hearing scary fatalistic stuff can hurt. IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 133 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 28, 2009 03:14 AM
My Dsc ruler are uranus. In all my relationship its importent with uranus aspect. My first longterm husband uranus conj my sun and asc. My second husband uranus also conj my sun and asc but orb was wide , his uranus sextil my moon conj nessus.A big love i meet after my second husband have his uranus conj venus, that conj my venus, nod mars conj in natal chart. The only problem was. He was an casanova and dont told me his real year. I thought he was to old. 17 years older than me. My last on and off relationship have his venus conj my desc in aqua. It also opposite my sun. His moon also in aqua but not in orb. For me its importent with uranus. Uranus do the relation dynamic and excitment. Uranus also give friendship and that its also importent to me. I would never stay in relationship without friendship including love or sex. In my 11 house i have moon, venus, nod, mars. IP: Logged |
vertiver Knowflake Posts: 323 From: Formerly Missneptune Registered: May 2009
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posted August 28, 2009 04:54 AM
Who says Marriage equals partnership? It is more than possible to have plentiful partnerships without getting married. So, does staying single really mean not having meaningful relationships or having a legal bond? Most people that get married get divorced anyways, so what is the point? I see the misery people suffer in marriage, and it makes me feel so opposed to the traditional, man is bread winner, ideology of marriage. Its the 21st century after all! IP: Logged |
cristiname Knowflake Posts: 22 From: Earth. Welcome! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 28, 2009 06:49 AM
some people have a sense of power when they 'predict' something bad will happen to others. all this pushing for *one* aspect or position to explain it all makes me think that such people are unable to interpret a whole chart. Cos once you do that, you learn that everything is complicated and you can never know how one aspect/position will play itself out in real life, especially so when you take it out of the context of a chart. I only know one person who's been single all her life, a woman. her time of birth is iffy, but with what I have, she has Aqua on her 7th cusp, and Uranus in Aries (independence) and the 9th (relationships sublimated into higher mind pursuits). she was the eldest of 8 children, spent her whole childhood taking care of the other kids; when she managed to 'get out', she decided never to be burdened again like that; so she focused on her career instead (and getting an education, which was a big deal at that time, especially for a woman) she was very supportive of her brother's children; she practically raised a few of them. Her Can Moon is opp Mars and has Cap Saturn-Venus. Somehow, she never saw herself as a 'woman', but more like a mother figure to others. She needed this emotional support (feeling useful and all mighty towards the people she helped and depended on her) but her ow femininity was blocked, unable to express itself other than being of service (Venus-Saturn in the 6th). She had a high position is the health dep (again, the 6th, Venus rules her 10th, Saturn rules her 6th). Also - very imp - she has Sun, Mercury and Mars in her 5th. She's always been the center of the universe for the whole family - she was like The Ruler, a version of Louis 14, with her own clan. She wanted to be the child, not care for an other. her suport for the others has always been more of a financial nature, or simply making life decisions for them. she was never nurturing, or loving, just plain bossy. It is well documented that Cap Venus people, especially women, bloom later in life. In this woman's case, unfortunately, by the time she was to bloom, she already had such a high social status and such a powerful position that it was considered inappropriate for her to live that part of herself. (keep in mind this was during the 50's and that she lived in a small community; and a Capricorn has a hard time disappointing other's expectations, as they take responsibilities very seriously) As you see - it was her decision to be 'single forever' and it came from a whole different set of life issues. IP: Logged |
cristiname Knowflake Posts: 22 From: Earth. Welcome! Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 28, 2009 06:54 AM
some people have a sense of power when they 'predict' something bad will happen to others. all this pushing for *one* aspect or position to explain it all makes me think that such people are unable to interpret a whole chart. Cos once you do that, you learn that everything is complicated and you can never know how one aspect/position will play itself out in real life, especially so when you take it out of the context of a chart. I only know one person who's been single all her life, a woman. her time of birth is iffy, but with what I have, she has Aqua on her 7th cusp, and Uranus in Aries (independence) and the 9th (relationships sublimated into higher mind pursuits). she was the eldest of 8 children, spent her whole childhood taking care of the other kids; when she managed to 'get out', she decided never to be burdened again like that; so she focused on her career instead (and getting an education, which was a big deal at that time, especially for a woman) she was very supportive of her brother's children; she practically raised a few of them. Her Can Moon is opp Mars and has Cap Saturn-Venus. Somehow, she never saw herself as a 'woman', but more like a mother figure to others. She needed this emotional support (feeling useful and all mighty towards the people she helped and depended on her) but her ow femininity was blocked, unable to express itself other than being of service (Venus-Saturn in the 6th). She had a high position is the health dep (again, the 6th, Venus rules her 10th, Saturn rules her 6th). Also - very imp - she has Sun, Mercury and Mars in her 5th. She's always been the center of the universe for the whole family - she was like The Ruler, a version of Louis 14, with her own clan. She wanted to be the child, not care for an other. her suport for the others has always been more of a financial nature, or simply making life decisions for them. she was never nurturing, or loving, just plain bossy. It is well documented that Cap Venus people, especially women, bloom later in life. In this woman's case, unfortunately, by the time she was to bloom, she already had such a high social status and such a powerful position that it was considered inappropriate for her to live that part of herself. (keep in mind this was during the 50's and that she lived in a small community; and a Capricorn has a hard time disappointing other's expectations, as they take responsibilities very seriously) As you see - it was her decision to be 'single forever' and it came from a whole different set of life issues. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 225 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 28, 2009 07:20 AM
i asked that cause my mother is having that.and i will have that too in about one year more or less.. IP: Logged |
starkiss1 Knowflake Posts: 86 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted August 28, 2009 11:34 AM
cristiname - if you open any good astrology book and read about saturn in 7th, the first thing jumping off the pages will be about difficulties the person with this placement is going to experience in marriage or relationships of any kind.If an astrologer is going to gloss over those aspects when doing a chart for a client,then this astrologer belongs to a trashy magazine.I hope you are not one of them.IP: Logged |
Cheshire Kat Knowflake Posts: 324 From: Wonderland Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 28, 2009 01:07 PM
I just want to ask this quickly, what of Chiron in the 7th house?Chiron is the only thing residing in my 7th house. Saturn is in my 1st house, which is the opposite of the 7th house. How do you think that would play out. I really don't like "my" relationships but I absolutely adore other people's relationships, Im kind of nosy and butt into other people's relationships and I love to talk about other people's relationships but keep a tight lip on mine, most people don't even know Im dating unless I tell them. Right now I am single, I feel like Im going to some sort of single relationship conselor hypocryte lol. IP: Logged |
popcorn Knowflake Posts: 133 From: Registered: Aug 2009
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posted August 28, 2009 01:42 PM
Its easy to think its an break off aspect but its not because to much people in the generation have the aspect. I think chiron in house 7 are very nice to have. Clear up and heal the relationship. In opposite saturn you think first before you do someting new. The man i have an on off relationship with have his saturn conj chiron opposite pluto, uranus. He had been married in 14 year before me. I do not beleve at all that is an single aspect.
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MyVirgoMask Knowflake Posts: 1175 From: Bay Area, CA Registered: May 2009
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posted August 28, 2009 09:40 PM
I put a lot less faith in what I 'read' about an aspect and what I experience. Who cares who wrote what? A 'good' astrology book is not going to tell you if something is difficult - that's something you find out on your own. If your own chart is familiar with Saturn energy or Uranian energy, then there is no 'difficulty' in your life if you know who you are IP: Logged |
Alia Knowflake Posts: 326 From: az Registered: Apr 2009
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posted August 29, 2009 08:13 AM
i have uranus ruler of 7thmy ex husbands uranus was exactly opposite my sun my longest relationship bf was aquarius the man i love now is aquarius rising. my relationships are crazy. [i'm PICKY beyond imagination..libra moon] i stay single for years in a row. if i hook up w someone the relationship is either short and meaningless but intense or long one sided - i mean i spent years ,often,thinkin about someone i wouldnt even see. Now, next friday jupiter will be at the degree of my DSC and i am going to see the man i loved the most in my whole life (i still do)-he requested to see me - after 2 years, 2 months and 2 days. is interesting that jupiter D when passed on the same degree nothing happened..but now that is gettin at that same degree in RETRO motion..brings me him from the past,,
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