posted August 24, 2009 05:38 PM         

the same aspects that could indicate being single forever could also possibily indicate being in bad marriages

also..there are some people that believe being single is a good thing. Some people don't believe in marriage and some don't even believe in sex. They might actually have harmonious aspects.

it's very relative.

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 24, 2009 06:22 PM         

Badly aspected? Depends what that means. It could have tense aspects, it could have more flowing aspects that even it out.

posted August 24, 2009 06:38 PM         

SO I was wondering, has anyone ever researched people who have never gotten married and stayed single forever, like what is in their natal charts that shows this?

As far as free will, and being single or getting married being a choice, well......yes we all believe in free will, but if astrology describes the organization of the Universe and how everything happens for a reason, how things are "timed" so to speak.......then I would think that it *would* show in the charts of those people who have never gotten married and stayed single forever.

Just tryin' to 'splain where I'm coming from.

posted August 24, 2009 11:21 PM         

heliocentric nodes of objects move up to 1 degree per century

currently Uranus Nodes are in 14'03 Gemini/Sagittarius.

the Uranus Nodes have been located between 13 and 14 degrees Gemini/Sagittarius for a century.

She also has the Nodes of Mars and Mercury oppose her Ascendant/Descendant axis

currently Mercury Nodes are in 18'26 Taurus/Scorpio
and Mars Nodes are in 19'38 Taurus/Scorpio

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

posted August 25, 2009 01:44 AM         

Imagine these scenarios:

-Person A: has a series of passionate, really fun affairs over the course of a life devoted to creative work.

-Person B (this is me): has a series of boyfriends from puberty on, falls madly in love as a teen, stays with the guy until she is in her thirties, then leaves him. It was a committed, monogamous relationship that felt like a marriage, the breakup felt like a divorce. Now (a couple of years later), she is still single, by far the longest ever without a boyfriend. NOTE: I do not consider this an unhappy, bad, or tragic relationship just because it wasn't the right thing for me forever. I find the idea that only lifelong, old-fashioned marriages where the people stick it out forever can be fulfilling very conservative and misguided. Many different kinds of relationships and connections can be fulfilling.

Person C: Never has sex and is never loved by anyone (if this is even possible.)

Person D: is in an arranged marriage, does not love her spouse, and is very unhappy

Person E: has an open marriage with someone she mutually loves very much--they have been married for 30+ years and are committed to staying married forever, but both of them regularly and consensually see other people

Person F: Falls madly in love at age 27 with a woman she spends her whole life breaking up, then reuniting with, in a rather exciting and torrid series of turbulent encounters. She writes three novels about it.

Person G: Is in an arranged marriage, and she and her husband are madly in love and excited to be together.

I just don't think "married" versus "single" or "in a relationship" versus "single" are relevent at all.

The questions to look for in each chart would be--is this person happy in love? Does he/she have fulfilling relationships (or lack thereof), that reflect his/her deepest wants, needs, and cravings?

posted August 25, 2009 02:10 AM         

I looked at a chart of a woman who married once when she was I think around 19 or 20, had three children, then divorced after about ten years and so far seems completely uninterested in dating again. It was a very traumatic marriage to a very wealthy, eccentric banker (for example, she had a seizure in the kitchen, and her husband asked her mother to call the ambulance while he stepped over her body and made a sandwich).

It is a little different than chronic singleness, but it is still interesting to look at her chart for circumstances of marriage.

A girl I know who feels she will never get married, who doesn't ever want to be married or involved in any intimate relationship, has a Venus conjunct Chiron opp. Uranus conjunct Saturn in Gemini and Sagittarius, both the latter trine Jupiter in Aries (which is squaring Mars in Cancer). I don't have a birth time, though.

posted August 25, 2009 10:03 AM         

aspects to my Venus:
square Saturn (0)
square Uranus (0)
conjunct NN (6)

7th house:
Saturn, Uranus, Neptune in there
Saturn/Uranus conjunct DSC (2)

posted August 25, 2009 05:11 PM         

Amowls, your aspects are fascinating! What do you look for in relationships? Are you more interested in something one-on-one and longterm, or excitement and adventure, or what?

posted August 25, 2009 05:49 PM         

I've read that Aries Jupiter can make a person impulsive, opposite Moon would tend to have sudden, strong, big feelings... and with a Libra moon in 1st (opp right?) would seem like you define yourself by relationships to feel satisfied and whole... so Aries Jupiter opp Libra Moon does sound like someone who would have many stimulating relationships and be very active in that area, even though it might be uncomfortable because Libra tends to like things to be even keeled and Aries/Jupiter energy is pretty loud and independent (long term vs. excitement dealio).

To me, outer planets mean "others" so having three outer ones in your 7th could more symbolize the kind of people you end up in relationships with, esp conjunct descendant (Saturine, Uranian, Neptunian...). Maybe with Saturn, you find your partners restricting and break away from them, but then start new ones thanks to Jupiter giving you wide social circle (11th). It might not be hard to do, because there is a trine between the two planets in 7th, partners, 11th, friends... so partners (any kind) becoming friends and friends becoming partners might not be uncommon?

posted August 25, 2009 06:20 PM         

"while planets conjunct or square the nodes of Uranus have a very restless and rebellious spirit."
http://mysite.verizon.net/bonniehill/pages.aux/astrology/tobey/tobey.14.html

Uranus Nodes in 13'51 Gemini/Sagittarius
square Ascendant/Descendant axis in 13'27 Virgo/Pisces
trine/sextile Uranus in 15'17 Libra in 2nd
sextile/trine Ceres in 13'57 Leo in 11th
sextile/trine Eris in 12'15 Aries R in 8th

I have never been married, but I do want to be married. I also wouldn't mind being in a common-law marriage. I am almost 38 years old. I believe that I am a late bloomer. I've been pretty much a late bloomer in almost everything.

Eris Nodes in 5'30 Taurus/Scorpio in 8th/2nd
oppose/conjunct Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd

There is no mention of Eris in the planetary nodes article because Eris was discovered in 2005,and the article was written long before the discovery of Eris.
Eris is 30 percent larger than Pluto. If astrologers view Pluto as a planet, then viewing Eris as a planet makes sense. If Pluto is viewed as having strong astrological influence, then Eris can be viewed as having a strong astrological influence. Eris orbits well beyond Pluto and has a much slower orbit than Pluto. Therefore,Eris more outer-planet like than Pluto. Therefore,it's more metaphysically oriented and probably relates more to the rebirth,transformation process. It does seem to have to do with diversity,ideology,divergence,controversy,discord. It also seems to rule the Dialectic process. Being a scattered disk object, Eris' orbit is more eccentric and inclined. It orbits well off the ecliptic. Therefore, Eris is a more of nonconformist than Pluto is. Uranus has nothing on nonconformity with its orbiting on the ecliptic like the other planets. Pluto and Eris are more nonconformists than Uranus when it comes to astronomical/orbital features.

also

My Moon (women) is in 3'11 Pisces
squares 5th house ruler (romance) Saturn in 5'08 Gemini in 9th
squares 4th/7th house ruler Jupiter in 8'17 Sagittarius in 3rd
squares 7th house ruler Neptune in 1'48 Sagittarius in 3rd

also square transneptunian dwarf planet candidate, Varuna in 3'10 Gemini R
figures into the t-square...gives it more of a highly metaphysically oriented challenge so that relationships with woman can be very difficult

aspects to the following could indicate some help in relating with women:
trines to Sun in 5'20 Scorpio in 2nd
trines to transneptunian dwarf planet candidate plutino,Ixion in 5'25 Scorpio in 2nd
trine to transneptunian dwarf planet candidate Quaoar in 2'22 Scorpio in 2nd
sextile transneptunian dwarf planet candidate
trine to transneptunian dwarf planet candidate
sextile Sedna in 2'06 Taurus R in 8th

in Right Ascension Chart:

minor t-square of:
Moon square Saturn - '48
Moon semisquare Eris -'07
Saturn semisquare Eris -'56

wedge of:
Sun trine Moon with 1'24 orb
Moon sextile Sedna with 39 minutes of arc
Sun oppose Sedna with 44 minutes of arc

in declinations,
My Saturn also contraparallels Mercury-Venus-Neptune

Raymond

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“It is absolutely the perfect name,” Dr. Brown said, given the continuing discord among astronomers and the public over whether Pluto should have retained its planetary status.

In mythology, Eris ignited discord that led to the Trojan War.

“She causes strife by causing arguments among men, by making them think their opinions are right and everyone else’s is wrong,” Dr. Brown said. “It really is just perfect.”

posted August 25, 2009 06:37 PM         

taurusvirgoleolady - i also have saturn and pluto in 7th, unless you use equal houses, and i am currently single. however i have had one marriage which lasted in FACT 10 years, and in LEGALITY for 18, when he decided he wanted to marry his common-law wife of 8 years! before that i had a couple of extremely significant relationships of 3-4 years as well. (i am still friendly and in touch with my ex-husband)...