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DD
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posted September 10, 2009 09:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, definitely a perfect example, Lara.


No the Dwadsign spans over 2 and a half degree, or 150 minutes.
You have to know the exact minute of the planetary position; for example; let`s say Venus is on exactly 6°00 Taurus.

It falls into the Gemini Dwad of Taurus (from 5.00 - 7.30), and the exact degree is 12 degree Gemini. (the difference from 5° to 6° is exactly one degree, or 60 minutes, which equals 12 degrees of a Dwad - 60:5)


oh btw I checked that synastry (only his natal to my Dwads), and it appears that his Venus is falling exactly on my Dwad Moon, Dwad DESC and Dwad Adonis.

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posted September 10, 2009 09:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message
Asc is at 19.56 Gemini so that would give me a Cappy dwad and if we round my Asc degree to 20, then it would be an Aqua dwad

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posted September 10, 2009 09:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you DD for explaining!

I have to run some errands but when i get back i will check some out!

BTW what orb do you give aspects?

For instance, 12' gemini dwad for SUN and the other person's sun is 14' gemini?

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posted September 10, 2009 10:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I would use the same orb as in the usual synastry. So it is def. conj.

Actually I think even sharing the signs alone can point to some kind of "understanding"

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posted September 10, 2009 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
asc pis, dwad virgo(like my sun).But i am so not a virgo! i hate all virgo traits like being tidy,putting things in order,filling in forms,having lists of all sorts,etc.The only virgo trait i have is punctuality. I hate being late.
Have not got a clue how to explain it.

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posted September 10, 2009 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Lara,

errands? Are you Superman posing as Clark Kent or Lara?

LOL Sorry, they are just showing a rerun of Lois and Clark, and I have never heard the word "errand" so often before.

Starkiss,

maybe you identify more with your Pisces nature, which of course is in contrast to the Virgoan traits.
Tell me, do you attract Virgo`s, either as friends / lovers or as enemies?


BTW I think those traits that you mentioned are just secondary expressions of a Virgo, and not all Virgos have those.
To me Virgo signifies above all to make sure that everyone including herself feels comfortable (which is easier if your house is tidy) and to care for people, which is being expressed in a practical way, like being helpful and so on.
Another motivation I have found very Virgoan is that urge to make things "right", which includes a clear aversion against making mistakes.
Another thing that is a big issue for most Virgos is the "adaption to the environment", this fitting in. It is a theme for them, it doesn`t mean what their attitude towards it is. If they reject it or welcome it. Even though most Virgo`s I have met, welcomed it, as it gave them and their loved ones a sense of security.

My Virgo friend is a good example; she has only Sun in Virgo, yet, how often have I heard her say: "I am only working so hard, so noone will notice I am really lazy inside."
or "I am only such a good person, because I am afraid something horrible will happen, when I don`t make things right."

(WEll, she is an extreme example, I admit)


But in the core of the Virgo there is also that expression of feelings. Virgo`s are VERY capable of emotional expression; they are perfect actors. Yes, I know I know, everyone looks to the Leo for that. But honestly, a Leo just SHINES, he performs.
A Virgo ACTS, and she can do that, BECAUSE she is so observant towards her enviroment, and she knows (in good cases) how to express herself, so that her surrounding will be pleased, and since she knows that, she can also decide against it.

Sorry, I got carried away.

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posted September 10, 2009 01:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
DD, i do attract virgo friends and my first hubby was a virgo. I do indeed feel more like pisces and sco(asc). On the other hand, my solar house contains pluto/uranus conj. my sun, so it's strong.

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posted September 10, 2009 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Azalaksh     Edit/Delete Message
Leo Asc, Cancer dwad.....
This is such a pretty picture

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DD
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posted September 10, 2009 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, it`s never about an isolated sign.

And it seems that you project "Virgo" and draw them to you, so you are free to "play" Pisces.

I also attract a lot of Virgo- friends, or ltet`s say I have attracted them during certain years.
I think in my case it might be a family thing.
My Mum has Moon, Venus and Mars in Virgo.
My Dad has Saturn conjunct his ASC in Virgo, all on my Mum`s Venus and Mars, so you can bet there was a bit of Virgo vibe going on in my family.
I do not have anything in Virgo though.

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posted September 10, 2009 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
For some reason, the word "dwad" is echoing in my mind over and over again.. *_*; dwad~ dwad~

me:

Aries Sun - Taurus dwad
Aries Moon - Capricorn dwad
Aries Venus - Sagittarius dwad
Taurus Mars - Cancer drawd
Virgo AC - Virgo dwad

dwad~ dwad~

my bf:

Scorpio Sun - Cancer dwad
Pisces Moon - Leo dwad
Libra Venus - Sagittarius dwad
Virgo Mars - Leo dwad
Pisces AC - Pisces dwad

dwad~ dwad~

So, his dwad Sun oppose my dwad Moon and conjunct my dwad Mars, our dwad Venuses conjunct, and our dwad ACs are opposed. XD Also, my dwad Sun is opposed to his natal Sun.

dwad~ dwad~

But well, I'm not sure if I'd give much importance to dwads. ^_^; Not that I'm denying their relevance, as I didn't research much about them yet, but it feels to me that if we search for meaningful stuffs from so many different methods, then we would always find meaningful connections anyways. Besides, giving so much importance to these or many other methods might mean that the main traditional methods aren't as meaningful as they are supposed to, coz if everything is of equal relevance, then it ends up with nothing being relevant anyways. ^_~;

But well, on the other hand, the psychology of self and relationships itself is in fact of great complexity, so that different methods can in fact help analyzing different parts/depths of psychology.

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posted September 10, 2009 02:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
I think Dwad add a subtle nuance and understanding of something, but they of course can`t replace the lack of aspects.

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posted September 10, 2009 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for starkiss1     Edit/Delete Message
Comica, hi, dwad - dwad! Can't stop dwad-dwad... laughing,dwad.IT's like hiccups, dwad, isn't it? Dwad-dwad...
I think i agree with you not being too fussed bout dwads. Dwad-dwad...

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posted September 10, 2009 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
Sco asc, Cap dwad

A while back I made my Dwad Chart. In it I have a Gemini stellium: Sun, Pluto, Venus, and Juno. To paraphrase "Wicked," I guess being so strongly Gem on the dwad level means I'm deeply shallow.

The Gem influence is clear to me. But then again, I'm a Sag sun with Neptune cnj it. I'm mutable. A priority I have in life is to experience myself fully and freely.

I find repetitions of the regular chart on the dwad level interesting:
~ In my regular chart, I have Pluto on my Venus/Juno midpoint. On the dwad level Venus, Pluto, and Juno are all cnj.
~Regular chart, Mars cnj Jupiter. Dwad, Mars in Sag.
Things like that.

And that Gem stellium I mentioned falls into my natal 8th house, with dw.Pluto cnj my Vertex.
I'm a Sco Asc, with Pluto cnj my Sun/Moon mp. So my dwad chart connects with a major part of myself.

Synastry's interesting too.
~My SO's dw.Sun is cnj my regular ASC.
~My dw.Gem stellium is cnj his regular IC. (Juno and Pluto the most narrowly cnj it.)
~His dw.Venus is cnj my regular Mars.

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posted September 10, 2009 02:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
DD -

Question for you. For converting radix to dwad, instead of using:

0.0 - 2.30 degrees (and so on)

Should we use:

0.0 - 2.29 degrees

...since there's no 30.0 degrees in the zodiac?

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posted September 10, 2009 03:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Jane


Good idea.


btw where has Eve gone to? What did you do to her? And are you the good or the evil twin?

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posted September 10, 2009 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
DD, Lara Croft
(she has errands too!!) lol

Ok i'm back and i'm ready to tackle the Dwad Family.

btw DD, can you remind me of the first two letters of your email pls as i would like to send you one, if thats ok with you and your email is miles down my inbox now

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posted September 10, 2009 03:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Ah Super-Lara is back


The first two letters of my e-mail?

Try SU

Or did you want more than two letters?
I can give you the last ones before the @, which would be IA

Or did you actually mean the 2 letters after the first 2? LP

Or the 2 letters before the last 2? IC.


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posted September 10, 2009 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Oh putting all joking aside.

I would be interested to know if our Dwad positions are somehow relating to each other`s natal. Are you game to have a look at this?


Well here are mine: natal first, then Dwad


Sun: 26 Sag- 11 Libra
Moon: 17 Aqua - 25 Leo
MErcury: 25 Sag - 00 Aries
Venus: 6 Cap - 13 Pisces
Mars: 5 Sag - 2 Aquarius
Jupiter: 11 Pisces - 14 Cancer
Saturn: 17 Cancer - 23 Capricorn
Uranus: 1 Scorpio - 16 Scorpio
Neptune: 10 Sag - 29 Pisces
Pluto: 9 Libra - 25 Cap
NN: 10 Sag - 2 Aries
ASC: 7 Sag - 24 Aquarius
IC: 5 Aries - 29 Taurus
Vertex: 21 Cancer - 17 PIsces

Chiron: 20 Aries - 00 SAg
Psyche: 24 Aquarius - 18 Scorpio
Karma: 16 Gemini - 12 Sag
Destinn: 23 Cancer - 9 Aries


Does anything hit?

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posted September 10, 2009 03:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message
Jane,

your Gemini Dwad planets hit my 7th house. And your Mars in Sag Dwad is well liked by my Mars, ASC, Sun, Mercury and NN in SAg.

And didn`t you have a Leo Moon, which speaks to my Moon in Leo Dwad?


I also have a Saturn-Pluto-conjunction in Cappy Dwad. Hmm.

BTW Zala, I LOVE that picture.

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posted September 10, 2009 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
DD your Moon dwad is opposite my Mercury, your Mercury conjunct my Venus, and your Neptune conjunct my Venus. And actually your regular Sun is conjunct my DSC and your Moon is conjunct my Sun aw.

Also, can you check my placements? I'm not sure if I did this right:
ASC: 27'15 Gemini = 25 Aries
Sun: 19'12 Aquarius = 19 Virgo
Moon: 23'37 Libra = 10 Cancer
Mercury: 24'22 Aquarius = 20 Scorpio
Venus: 29'04 Pisces = 18 Aquarius
Mars: 20'48 Sagittarius = 5 Leo
Jupiter: 24'36 Aries = 22 Capricorn
Saturn: 29'32 Sagittarius = 21 Scorpio
Uranus: 29'44 Sagittarius = 23 Scorpio
Neptune: 9'9 Capricorn = 28 Aries
Pluto: 12'34 Scorpio = 28 Pisces
Vertex: 16'54 Scorpio = 18 Taurus
NN: 25'6 Pisces = 7 Capricorn
MC: 4'42 Pisces = 23 Aries

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posted September 10, 2009 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
LMAO!!! none of those work either together nor separately
your email must be on my old computer. damn! lol

ok i have to admit something here -

i'm game and i have the next 4 hrs free BUT i still don't understand how to figure out the dwad degree..

i'm sorry, i'm no good at maths!

SOS

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posted September 10, 2009 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cpn_edgar_winner     Edit/Delete Message
its over my head too.

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Lara
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posted September 10, 2009 04:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
I know cpn... my brain is farting

sigh

ok, is this right:

AC 12' leo
12' divided by 2.5 = 4.8
4.8 x 150 = 720
720 divided by 5 = 144? lol that can't be right

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posted September 10, 2009 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
DD
your mercury/NN dwad is cj my N chiron
your chiron natal is cj my N nn/moon/saturn/venus
your psyche dwad is opposing my N mars

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posted September 10, 2009 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for downtomars     Edit/Delete Message
Interesting, I always learn something new at Lindaland...

Asc Aqua dwad Aqua
Sun Leo dwad Libra
Moon Libra dwad Cancer

Here is a table: http://koti.mbnet.fi/neptunia/dwads.htm

ETA: This is funny because most people guess that I am a Libra and I chalked it up to my Moon and 7th house stellium, I guess the dwad has something to do with it too!

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