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comica23
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posted November 04, 2009 05:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm I guess that we can never know if a relationship will really last or not, but maybe that's why it's even more precious. We can never know what's in the future, but all we can do is our best, right? X3

About my case, maybe mine is easier (we don't have external factors influencing us), but yeah, I've also had similar experiences. I've been with my bf for a few years, and at the beginning, we weren't really able to supportive for each other well due to our differences and lack of understanding about each other, which often made me wonder if we really belong to each other. It's not that we don't have a common ground, coz we do have many, and we have always been happy together, yet those differences made me feel insecure from time to time. This is actually my first relationship, so that for a Pisces DC like me who had always idealized about love, it took me some time to learn that things that doesn't really fit the expectations I had doesn't really mean that it's bad. But well, by time, we tried to understand each other better, so that we are more able to be supportive/understanding for each other now.
It is fine if we didn't get each other nor know how to support each other in the right way, but what matters is that we had put efforts to understand each other better. And I'm really happy, to realize how patient he was with me.

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posted November 04, 2009 06:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message
Comica, that sounds beautiful! I really hope things work out for the both of you! But I guess it is nice to talk to you about this since you behave rather similarly in relationships as I do... do you worry about things often as well? I worry about everything... It's really unhealthy but I don't know how to stop doing it lol... What kind of synastry do you have with your bf?

DepTaurus,

Yes, our AC's are pretty close. Mine is at 14 degrees Virgo... hope everything gets better for you! Keep me updated!

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posted November 04, 2009 09:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you! I also hope that you and your bf will be able to work things out together. X3
Yeah I also worry a lot, kind of like everything has to be perfect, or else I can't sleep lol which can be bad sometimes, since certain things takes time to solve. But well, even if it's hard, try not to worry too much. You should tell him about your worries, but don't talk about them all the time and give some time to see how things goes.

Here's the synastry between me and my bf:

We don't really have much aspects between our personal planets lol but I guess that our opposed ACs helped. In a synastry, it's important to have some compatibility between our Suns/Moons/ACs/ICs, coz without any of these, it's hard to have affinity. In your case, you have compatible Suns/Moons and MC/IC axis, and even if you don't have compatible ACs, your SN is conjunct his AC (which shows natural affinity), and your AC is conjunct his Valentine/Destinn, which helps too. ^_^

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posted November 06, 2009 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message
I think you have very nice synastry!! I'm sure the angles are EXTREMELY powerful since they all line up almost exactly! How did it feel when you first met? Did it feel like an unavoidable pull toward eachother? Was the attraction comfortable and familiar or was it intense and frightening?? Also, I really find that Sun-Groom and Moon-Briede conjunction interesting... do you see him as your ideal future groom? It seems like those aspects would bring a lot of admiration and would be simply wonderful!

We also have a lot of "node" action going on... His NN conjunct my MC and my Sun (definitely glue) and of course my NN and Destinn on his DC and our NN's are trine...

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posted November 06, 2009 12:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
NN conjunct MC seems really good, I mean, just like iQ said, your success will help him too, as your career/path can inspire him on his life lessons. Also, SN on your IC, there must be a deep affinity/familiarity, deep in the chore of you both.

lol when me and my bf met, everything happened a bit too fast before I can even really understand what's going on. We actually started dating within a month after going out for a few times, which is very unlike me. But being with him was comfortable, and there was some sense of familiarity too.
In that moment, there were lots of transits going on in our charts, with Valentine, Cupido, Destinn, Juno, Psyche, Lust and Mars, Venus, Sun, Moon and Vertex involved, so maybe that explained it lolol~

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posted November 06, 2009 02:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, that's so crazy!!! What you described is EXACTLY what happened to me...

We met and it happened VERY quickly! We were literally on maybe 4 or 5 dates when we began dating officially... and it was 2 weeks before he moved in with me! lol well the moving in thing wasn't intentional... he got kicked out of his roommate's house and had nowhere to stay... so I took him in... permanently This is VERY unlike me... I usually like to take things SLOW.... with my last bf (the one I referred to as the scumbag) it took me months to even begin to date him, after already knowing eachother a year... and it took some convincing on his part... but with my current bf it was amazing... it was like I was just SO comfortable with him from the moment we met... there was no awkward tension that I usually feel b/c I'm slow to open up... it was just BAM instant!

"NN conjunct MC seems really good, I mean, just like iQ said, your success will help him too, as your career/path can inspire him on his life lessons."

Yes, that's true... but IQ's comment kind of worries me... that it's too karmic... hmmm Idk... is he just basing it strictly on age and maturity level?

He did a reading for me before... just based on our Synastry... he said that it looked like a beautiful relationship... definitely soulmates... he also said there was scope for marriage because of a conjunction between Tyche and Saturn. He said that should my bf propose (most likely after his Saturn return trials) the marriage would last a lifetime...

I guess he changed his mind b/c of the draconic synastry and composite? ugh... It just kind of worries me b/c I always trust IQ's expertise...

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posted November 06, 2009 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
Etherean

if you are so worried see how your charts are conected,relating to thse asteroids:

casals:word for a couple
Mora:means to live with
casagrande:word for big house
LifeSon
Adorea ( to adore)
Aura ( it is the energy that surrounds each soul)
Mimosa ( is to care,to be loving torwards)
Concordia ( to agree,be compreensive)
Ventura ( to be venturous,blessed)
Felicitas ( happiness)
Victoria(Victory)
Morando ( to be living with;the verb)
Morata ( the physical place of living)
Quero ( to want)

when i showed IQ how those interlinked with me and my partner,he said

"These are very pertinent as these asteroid frequencies match your native language and country.
They mean you both established a home and family with love in the past life and are highly probable in repeating this love story with a happier ending in this lifeline."

"I read through your aspects and the pertinent Asteroids. It would be very likely that this lifeline produces lot more happiness than any other incarnaiton before on Earth. Just the ADOREA conj Asc is such a positivity booster.
The Draconic to Tropical placements are also extraordinary. You and John make an excellent advertizement for the efficacy of all new thoughts in synastry [asteroids, draconics] for identifying true love soulmates and twinflames."

SO those asteroids can really enlighten how probable the relationship will fulfill both partners in happiness.

of course that these are only hipotheses,but we are the ones who work for it to come true


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posted November 07, 2009 01:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Diandra!! That is such a great idea!!! Thank you! My father is a linguist and taught me Spanish when I was little so although I cannot speak it fluently anymore, I still identify strongly with your culture and language.

Here is the synastry with the asteroids you suggested:

I thought the Moon conj. Felicitas and AC conj. Felicitas was really interesting. As well as Felicitas conj. Boda... and Quero conj. IC

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posted November 07, 2009 01:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message
Did you want the draconic too? or not?

Thanks Diandra!

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DiandraReborn25
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posted November 07, 2009 08:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message

yes you can put the DRACOS too.

it is better ask IQ to come and see,on his thread of Questions to IQ

let me see what pops out to me.

of course...im not expert hihihi

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posted November 07, 2009 08:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
i loved these

Your Mimosa/Ceres cj his stellium:this shows a very caring and sweet relationship,you really have very tender feelings torwards him.

Your Boda cj his Adorea/Union:you love the fact that you might be together in a committed relationship,marriage included

his QUERo is cj your IC: he wants the deepest you hihihi

HIS felicitas cj YOUR DSC/moon/mars - i love this one!

your amor/mimosa cj his QUERO.

overall i think this might help the "karmic" ties that IQ talked about.

i dont know how kind of karmic things might there be between you both,but the best thing is that you can ask IQ and see if these HAPPINESS asteroids can help overcome the least positive aspects?

dont worry too much....me and JOhn have had several lifetimes together and in some we also had wounds to heal.we choosed to be togteher in this lifetime again,so that we can finally have our blissful relationship at last

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posted November 07, 2009 11:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, I know, I'm a worry wort ... It's true... I worry too much about everything... even when there's nothing to worry about! lol
I'll definitely ask IQ about all of this...

I'm very happy for you and John! You seem like a wonderful person, Diandra, so I'm so glad that you have found happiness in this life! You deserve it!

So here's the synastry again with the other asteroids I didn't have room for:

I really like the Concordia on my AC and on his Aura...Also the Felicitas (I love that one conj. Victoria on his AC and Felicitas conj. LifeSon!

And here is the Draco:

I found the DW Casals on the AC interesting... As well as Adorea conj. DC

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posted November 07, 2009 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
i know what you´re talking about...im a virgo sun!

thank you for the complimment!but we are still technically not living together still..we live 300km away.but we´re working on it nothing to worry much cause we know that our love knows not distance hihihi

morando cj AMOR-probably there arent many dows with you both living together?you have much love going on and feel like it is the right thing to do

boda cj union-well nothing more to say

concordia cj ASC- definatelly seems to be a great aspect as this might show that you are easily understood by the other.there is harmony between you

aura cj concordia - adds more understanding too

DRACOS

VALENTINE/ADOREA cj your quero-you both had loved each other in the past.with passion.

boda/victoria cj your vesta-see?probably you both were married and you were very devoted to each other

PF/ASC cj your wers/venus/casals-this strongly shows that you had a pleasant relationship,with the part of fortune appearing here

quero/uranus cj felicitas - this again shows that there was atraction but uranus there might something sudden happening that conected with you felicitas...?

vx cj boda-here it is again.neptune there adds some idealisation/dreamy romance.

jup/casals cj asc - this seems to me a positive relationship in the past.

adorea cj DSC - and this shows that you were both happy in your committed relationship

felicitas cj lilith-this one might show some of the karmic things IQ talked about?dont know what to think of this one

he had kiron/nn...hmm how does this is conected to your natal?and his natal?

i only see good aspects regarding these asteroids.maybe IQ could enligtnen you how he see´s the karmic relationship in the past?

have you saw how nessus is placed?

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posted November 07, 2009 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you so much for that thorough interpretation!

It's ok, my Virgo AC understands your Virgo Sun. What degree is your Virgo Sun?

Well, yes, it all looks great but of course not everything was perfect and I'm sure it's not any relationship....

Well, I took your advice and looked up where Nessus is placed and holy crap!!!!!!!!

His Nessus is 2 degrees away from his AC!!!!!

I have no idea what that means but that doesn't sound good! And then I looked at the draconic... and we have Eros conjunct Nessus!!!!! There are no conjunctions to my Nessus on either chart.... ughhhhh....

Now I'm freaked out! ;( This just really set off my worry engine lol

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posted November 07, 2009 01:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
take it easy

no need to worry.

my bf also has his nessus near his asc.

i have my own nessus on my mars/valentine/karma

nessus can show emotional abuse,but that doenst mean that we´re going to be abused by one another

we just gotta be aware of our own patterns and work with them.

for example i think that people like my bf,that has the nessus/asc is a soul who choosed the rough way on this lifetime.

he had an awful relationship with a girl,he was very traumatized and hurt.he needed to clear up some karmas he had with her.but that was needed for him to be stronger too,and to know what he didnd wanted to himself,when later he brokea ll off.

he just has some issues with family relatiing emotional abyse,power struggles,manipulations...things regarding nessus.

his soul has choosed the rough path but he has me,and you bf has you =) to know that at the end of the road...there is love!

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posted November 07, 2009 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message
WHEW!!!!

LOL Diandra....

I wish more people thought like that... Where is your moon by chance? You seem to be very optimistic...

This is true... Actually exactly what you said about your bf is true for mine... He's had a hard family life... His mother left him when he was very very young and it really hurt him... made him an extremely angry child but he grew out of that early on in his adolescence... and then of course you already know the situation with the brother... I guess that's where the manipulation factors in.... and I'm his first "serious" relationship but he's been really hurt by women in the past... they would just use him and abuse him mentally and emotionally...

Our relationship has been hard but I guess I prefer it that way. When a relationship is too calm it bores me... my Venus in Aries needs a challenge!! Apart from that, I love helping people. Taking care of people. That's what I'm really good at. Perhaps this is because I have a very strong Chiron and Ceres (as Glaucus pointed out) and it makes me feel needed. Whenever he gets sick, I love taking care of him and trying to make him better. When he has problems, I love talking to him about it and comforting him and helping him solve them.

Are you the same way? Also, how long have you been doing the long-distance-relationship thing? I applaud you both! That is a very difficult thing to do...

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posted November 07, 2009 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
you say that because you didnt met me before hihih

ive been into the LOA thing since few months ago...i am trying to be the best person i can,and that is conected to our own awareness of what is positive in all things.

my virgo sun is at 6virgo and my moon in 22taurus int eh 8th.
i have a mc cancer so i know how cancers are sensitive

your loving of helping and be a nurturer is also conected to the virgo qualities aside of the ceres ( i have cers on my 5th )

whew i can be the best nurse youve ever seen hihihih but fortunately diseases dont appear very often around here!

i completely understand-trust issues.my bf had nice parents but they were both very distanced people,they prefered to nurture his older brother who is like a child now...everything is just him and no one else...that is why i felt identified with your story and of your bf+s. but fortunately your bf did the right thing.and he knows very well how lucky he is to have a gf like you. isnt it? he wouldnt let you go away cause of his karmic family.

we´ve been like this for the 3 years now-but we manage to be together at weekends.that is why he can keep it a good comunication,we are really good for each other and we intimately know that we are each other´s light in the dark.

dont know how to explain really...

but yes it is not easy sometimes..circunstances can make you sad and needing the other when we cant be there.

he feels more cause he has that family there which doesnt really support his cancerian needs.

but you know,i feel that it is not by pressuring anything that this works.we are taking things slow and when the right time and circunstances allow it,he will manage to live together,in a new city,just the two together.

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posted November 07, 2009 02:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message
What is the LOA by chance?

Moon in 22 taurus? My sun is in 28 taurus... we have a wide sun-moon conjunction

I try to be optimistic... I've actually been more optimistic than usual this year.... maybe my progressed moon in Sag? Sometimes it's hard, though... my Pisces Moon is very easily hurt...

So how long have you been together total? Or have you been dating long distance the entire time? Did you always "know" he was the one for you? Or did it take you some time....

It sounds beautiful.

Also, what is your bf's chart like? is he just a cancer sun? or does he have other cancer placements? what houses?

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posted November 07, 2009 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
LOA is the law of atraction

yes,we´ve been together 3 years and 5 months now and its always be long-distance.

it was all very fast you know..we couldnt help it and it felt very fated?in a good way.

we met online in march 2006.he dreamt of me when we looked at my photo,dreamt that i was asking him to hugh him.so the morning after he sent me an email and we started chatting.

we met on june 2006 after long hours on phone and internet together.he came to see me and i hughed him like crazy when he went away in the train.no kiss happened but he asked me to go to his city and i would have a rose waiting and a haagen dahz ice cream(which i adore)

on july we started dating and we came very close to the point of knowing we met each other in some other life,due to the instant familiarity,trust and caring feeling we had for each other right away.

i can tell you that we might have our personal circunstances,that keeps us away but distance never makes us separate from each other.nobody believes that a relationship can be strenghtned by distance,but it is true.we know that for a fact.

his brother is one that doesnt believe in our relationship casue of that,but what others think doesnt really matter you know...nobody knows who you are together,but yourselves

that is why i say that if you really have a true love,hold on to it.trust in it and dont fear other´s mean attittudes.

love always wins in the end.

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posted November 07, 2009 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
my bf´s chart:

he has NN in cancer in his 12th.his cancer asc is at 28º

- stellium of LIBRA (sun/venus/merc) on his 3rd house.
- stellium of LIBRA (Pluto/saturn) AND Jup in the 4th
- Uranus/Mars in 5th and nep there
- AQUA Moon in the 7th

He doesnt show the dettactment of Aqua many times..he is much more cancer and libra.

he is an adorable soul.sensitive and fragile behind all his strenght he just wants to love and be loved.he is never happy if he is alone.

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posted November 07, 2009 10:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
I you both~! X3 And DiandraReborn25, the rose and haggen daz scenario is so beautiful! ;_;

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posted November 08, 2009 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for etherealenlightenment     Edit/Delete Message
Oh I know, comica! Diandra, The rose and haagen daaz does sound beautiful! Is he really romantic?

btw, comica, how are you?

My bf's the same way... he's got his tough Leo exterior (Leo AC) and his detached freedom loving persona (Aqua DC) but inside he's so delicate and sensitive and fragile... and no one really knows that side of him except for me...

I wish us all great luck in this! The interesting thing is I was looking at my solar return for this year and it has Sun square Neptune which apparently means that I'm going to be worrying incessantly for no reason! Ha well it's definitely accurate!lol

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posted November 08, 2009 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
it is isnt it?well it was the 1st time ive challenged my family cause they didnt wanted us to be together,i knew i had to!

specially after i met him in person,andknowing i had a rose and a hagen dahz waiting for me!

yes,he is.....he is the kind of guy that feels plain happiness if you hold his hand while sleeping.he wakes up whenever i am going to bathroom or he feels that im awake..and asks if im all right.he also is sensitive to the point of feeling alone if i move away from him while sleeping.

im romantic in my mind,but he is romantic in his actions.on the 3rd date he took me at his home and cooked for me hihihi and i was like "awwwww how sweet" but i was so nervous that i couldnt eat

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posted November 08, 2009 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message
etherealenlightenment, I'm fine, I'm at my bf's home during the weekends so I'm online less often during the weekends. X3

Sun square Neptune, it can make you feel more insecure. I have that natally, so I guess that I can understand how it feels. But this might just be a temporary phase, and you and your bf seems so happy together so don't worry. X3

DiandraReborn25, that's beautiful! And it's great how your bf is so caring about small details.

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posted November 08, 2009 07:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DiandraReborn25     Edit/Delete Message
Comica

thank you.he is much more special than what he think he is..lucky me i found him first

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