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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted December 27, 2009 02:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Honestly, I'm not entirely sure. Coffee can tell you more. I think it's when you use major events in a person's life to check transits and stuff and kind of work backwards to determine a birth time.

For what it's worth I'm pretty good with Ascendants. I say Cancer. That was my initial impression when I saw the first photo. He sounds very much like my Aqua (can be moody and cuddly), who has Cancer rising. The roundness in his face + chubby childhood + closeness to family supports that.

EDIT: They sound very much alike. My Aqua is very close to his sister also, who is his only sibling. He has a tough outer shell but his feelings get hurt pretty easily, especially with any perceived rejection, romantic or otherwise.

If you need an Aqua support group, Just Mia has one who is a piece of work also. She actually is partly responsible for me not smothering mine in his sleep one night.

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GrlyGirl20
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posted December 27, 2009 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
StarrofVenus...I was actually on 2nd thought thinking Cancer rising. He can be really sensitive. And I did assume that that's probably why he is into me. Plus his longtime gf had her venus in Cancer.

That would put him with his 10th being in Aries, and his pluto in the 4th. He's not very close to his family, in fact he has some issues with them. Plus he can play games. When we first started talking, he tried to set me up with another guy, because he thought I was going to reject him. So I do understand that. Thanks StarrofVenus!!! I'm glad someone totally gets how intense I am lol.

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posted December 27, 2009 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Mine has Pluto in the 4th as well. Someone on one of my threads about him told me that aspect could indicate issues in the home life/rebellion against parental figures.

I had a thread about him with his chart in it somewhere. In this forum, probably several pages back by now since it was at least 6 weeks ago. I think it was called "Case Study of an Aquarius." You might be interested in some of the analysis/things Just Mia and I posted in there since it seems that these 3 Aquas are rather alike.

Here's the thread: Case Study of An Aquarius

EDIT: Found a thread on chart rectification while I was looking for that one:

Chart Rectification Info


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posted December 27, 2009 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
WOW!!

StarrofVenus...seriously my guy and you're guy ARE exactly alike lol.

He LOVES music (plays guitar, and played piano for 11 years) and writes it
Is really smart (he's a mechanical engineer)
Hates authority (but deals with it...afterall he has a Cap Venus)
Is a family guy...especially his mom and his sister/ he would kill to protect his family
Has an impatient side...gets into verbal tirades that fade in after a bit
Has a relationship with the police (he's gotten quite a few speeding tickets)
And also sexually he is also reserved at first, but when he gets into it...its really good.
Plus his mars is in Aries lol.

Its sooooo weird that your guy and my guy are exactly the same lol.

Does your guy text you everyday? Or can he be a little clingy? I'm worried he isn't into me as much because he doesn't text everyday. Maybe I'm being paranoid lol.

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posted December 27, 2009 04:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
I think an Aqua who stays in contact everyday is probably an anomaly LOL. We do try to have some form of communication daily, but it doesn't always happen. We live 70 miles from each other so that increases time away from each other physically.

He is the only boyfriend I've ever had that I have let get away with going a few days without talking. I am very clingy and would love to have my significant other chained to my side but...he's not me. He's not like that at all. I actually appreciate him for who he is now (it was a MAJOR adjustment) because he has taught me the art of being separate from the other. My Libra, 7th, and 8th house stelliums give me this complete desire to merge with the other and I have ruined a lot of relationships like that. With him I have learned the art of self-soothing, i.e. just because I don't talk to him every day, doesn't mean he has vanished. For example, he is out of town and we haven't talked since Christmas morning. I'm not stressing. I know he misses me, he will be super goopy for a couple of days when he gets back on Monday and I'll probably hear from him tomorrow when football comes on.

He also has moments of surprising clingyness that let me know it's not all me. He likes to hold my hand a lot. And he finds it difficult not to touch when we sleep in the same bed. He exudes heat so when I try to escape from him, I wake up sweating in the morning with him right back beside me LOL.

This man has cried over me, in FRONT of me. Not just wet eyes, but tears when he thought I was going to leave him. He has fallen asleep in my lap and wanted me to hold him like a child when he was sad. I know he loves me. That's what I hold on to when I miss him. You might not be there yet but just hang in there with him. You'll get there.

Like I (and Mia before me) have said...patience. Don't sweat the small stuff. But don't be afraid to tell him when something bothers you. Say it, and then leave him alone for a little while to process it. Choose your battles though...don't win a battle and lose the war.

I think the fixed and fiery nature of our interactions (Venus in Aries/Scorpio, Aries/Taurus Moon, Sun Aquarius, Mars Leo--oy!) always makes it a little tug-of-war like. I have to fight my Plutonic need to control and win and subjugate on a daily basis...I am used to dominating in my relationships. He won't stand for it. But he will yield when I need him to yield. We need the water we have in our charts, it's what saves us LOL. It works for us, but it's hard...yet worth it. Just seeing his name on paper makes my heart do flips

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posted December 27, 2009 04:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
He's actually cried in front of me as well. Like actual tears..he basically said that he was F-up and that I would leave him and he didn't want to get hurt. And he cried because he was confused. The next day when I mentioned the incident he said he didn't want to talk about it, and that he was ashamed he cried.

Lol yeah he pretty much contacts me everyday. Yesterday when he was in a crabby mood, I said something like I didn't hear from him, and he said he doesn't have to text me 24/7. It hurt and surprised me, ESP since he's ALWAYS the one to text...and ALL day text convo's too lol.

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posted December 27, 2009 04:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Sensitivity to criticism is a hallmark Cancerian trait That was perceived criticism. And also a reminder that he won't be tied or chained down and it's his choice to text you all day, not something you should expect...I speak this type of Aqua LOL.

Every reading I've had for us, I've been told my sensitivity to his nature keeps us going...the way I understand him. It goes both ways. No one feels me brooding more than him. I have very dark moods at times that he senses and snaps me out of. I appreciate his lightheartedness and laid back attitude.

If he is Cancer rising like I suspect, it would be so nice to have the degree...I wonder if it is conjunct your Sun. We have Sun conj ASC in our synastry and I think that helps a lot.

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posted December 27, 2009 04:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah I said (as a rebound) that I don't expect him to text me everyday lol. And lo and behold I didn't hear from him today.

I totally get you on you're need to win in relationships and to be in control. My Cancer sun makes me seem really nice, and most guys don't know how much of a control freak, and how intense I can be. So I get you in that respect lol.

I actually can see him being a cancer rising, I also have my mars in cancer (but in the 1st) and he has his mars in aries. So it works. Its strange though I'm actually the more sexually aggressive lol. When I'm into someone its ALL I want to do. He's not that way, or has as strong of a drive as I do. But were working on that.

You said in synastry or composite you guys have sun conjunct saturn. I think (based on the assumed birth time for him) that we have our composite moon conjunct saturn...I just wasn't sure how that would affect us. Or that was why we isn't as expressive verbally as I want (he barely says he misses me...and doesn't say babe, or baby...when I know in the past he did...all this of course is based on my snooping lol).

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posted December 27, 2009 04:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
Well, Saturn is binding, for better or worse. A conjunction is a more favorable aspect than a square or an opposition, but still a "hard" aspect, i.e. very intense. I would think Saturn on the Moon would restrict emotions in some way--in a composite, perhaps both feel the need to hold back emotionally in some way. The couple can be emotionally guarded with each other perhaps? The house it falls in would shed more light. That is definitely a powerful, karmic aspect though, perhaps even indicative of a past life relationship since Saturn represents karma and the Moon can represent past lives.

Here's what CafeAstrology has to say about that aspect:

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Saturn challenging the Sun and/or Moon is often found in the composite charts of parent and child as well as marriage partners. In the case of parent and child, these aspects are easier to manage, likely due to the nature of the relationship itself. In the composite chart of marriage partners, although this aspect implies a certain amount of responsibility to each other and suggests a relationship that impacts each person powerfully, the relationship may feel like a burden.

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