posted December 22, 2009 06:09 AM            

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Venus/Mars can be superficial.. or it can turn superficial.. but it is not always superficial.
I mean there are positives and negatives to any planet and any combination. I'm trying my best to be pro Venus since it conjuncts my NN lol.. My goal in this life couldn't just be to become as superficial as humanly possible, or could it?

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Again, Venus in comparison to Psyche has more of a one dimensional, superficial quality to it, but that is not to suggest that Venus is superficial. Are you familiar with the myth of "Eros & Psyche"? If not, check it out,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHlCvfyInhA&feature=related

but if so, I am just pointing out that for one to experience true three dimensional love that encompasses body, mind and spirit and frees the soul, one needs to psychologically evolve from the influence of Venus and embrace their own Psyche.

posted December 22, 2009 06:25 AM            

So what would that say about me?

posted December 22, 2009 06:30 AM            

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You also cannot ignore Name Asteroids, and very importantly, the numerological synchronicities for true love relationship soulmates and for Twin Flames.

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I am not exactly clear on what you mean right here. Could you please explain further?

Also, I read on your post that you say asteroids address 10% of simple behavior, but 90% of complex behavior, while the planets are the reverse. I agree with this! the way I looked at it was a little bit different, but pretty much the same.

• I suggested that the inner planets dealt with what we were aware of consciously on the surface.

• The Outer Planets dealt with what we were unaware of subconsciously.

• The Asteroids dealt with the super-conscious, holistic spiritual things that guide our lives.
  

posted December 22, 2009 06:35 AM            

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Polo - My Psyche is at 20 degrees in Gemini and Eros is at 1 deg Aquarius.
So what would that say about me?

I can't find any psyche/eros interpretations online.

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Is your Sun in Cancer?

posted December 22, 2009 06:44 AM            

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Is your Sun in Cancer?

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Polo!! you just managed to further confuse me about a matter that has been very confusing for me for a long time

Or, paradoxically, you may have cleared all confusion away..

posted December 22, 2009 06:46 AM            

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• A guy's JUNO helps him instantly see the most desirable characteristics in his wife.

• The girl's JUNO is like her 'marketing' of 'ideal wife' characteristics.

• A guy's Psyche also rules his ability to feel things on a soul level, it is a Divine Feminine trait.

• So the Psyche-JUNO conjunction allows you "feel" her as ideal wife especially since you both have a Psyche-Eros conjunction.

• Just read conjunctions as a merger or acceptance, and it will all make sense.

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None of what you said describes what she feels, or how she sees me? It has to be mutual to work I.Q.

posted December 22, 2009 06:52 AM            

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Why would you say Cancer?

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I dunno, just a wild guess. I can feel your emotional constitution, but you did say you were a Pisces already, didn't you?

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I'm curious because my Ascendant may be in Cancer but...

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posted December 22, 2009 07:36 AM            

Anyway it was interesting you said Cancer! I sometimes lean towards Cancer.

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I can feel your emotional constitution, but you did say you were a Pisces already, didn't you?

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No, actually - I have Pisces Mercury/Jupiter/MC (& also asteroid Karma). I'm an Aries Sun/Cap Moon - the above unidentified Venus & Cap Mars lol probably not the most emotional chart.. but I have my emotional moments!

I'll try to guess your chart..

posted December 22, 2009 09:06 AM            

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So both My Juno and Her Juno cause me to see her as an IDEAL WIFE, but what makes her see me as an IDEAL HUSBAND then? Sexually she sees me as ideal through her Mars, but sex isn't love or marriage. Help me out I.Q.
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Her Jupiter conjunct your Juno satisfies this criteria. Jupiter represents the ideal husband in terms of growth, knowledge, being a friend philosopher and guide etc.

You both are actually blessed to have two Soulmate Pair Conjunctions. PSYCHE-EROS and JUNO-Jupiter.
My 6th sense tells me you both have a strong Valentine in synastry.

Why dont you post the natal charts and composite with ISIS 42, OSIRIS 1923, VALENTINE 447, UNION 1585, KARMA 3811, AMOR 1221, EROS, PSYCHE, SIVA 1170 and KAALI 4227.

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posted December 22, 2009 09:40 AM            

Female Venus conjunct Male Mars
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Female Eros opposite Male Psyche

posted December 22, 2009 10:41 AM              

we are thinking the same hihihi

i was going to post to Polo,for him to post their sinastry here too,regarding the asteroids.

POLO

your relationship seems very deep and soulfoul like you said.

i instantaneously also thought about Name asteroids too,as IQ said cause in my chart and of partner,our names are very interlinked too.

seems that name asteroids work at a vibracional level you know.Like the moment you felt ready to experience Love,you atracted that person ( name asteroid) into your life,to experience what your Soul needed.

did you already saw the chart of when you two met?they can really show the purposes of the meeting too.it is very interesting to see that ALWAYS appear the name asteroids.very interlinked with each other´s chart ( regarding transits for that day).

for instance,you go to the astro.com and in the section of free horoscopes,chose a chart and below,you can search for the asteroid of your name,and of your partners name.

let me say that between me and partner there is this,look how crazy it is:

my Hanna/asc cj his Sun 0º
His Hanna cj my Sun 1º
his Johnpaul wide cj my IC
his Jonnhy cj my IC 2º
my Jonnny cj his MC 1º

it is not coincidence really..i also believe that when we start growing and evolving in spirituality,we also attract those who are intune with us,spiritualy wise.

posted December 22, 2009 01:39 PM            

I think that when the woman is Venus and the man is Mars the aspect feels more "flowing," more "natural." However, when the roles are reversed and the man is Venus and the woman is Mars it adds extra tension- even with soft aspects. Man/Mars & Woman/Venus makes you comfortable with your attraction. It's very easy to flirt and you both know how to react to one another. But Man/Venus and Woman/Mars makes you struggle a bit with your roles. It's hard to be in the same room with one another before you're a couple because you both like each other so much but you don't know how to act upon it. It's like an elephant in the room- the man becomes submissive and needy and may dislike that these emotions are being evoked from him. Whereas woman becomes dominant and is expected to fix and mold the relationship.

I've read somewhere that when it comes to Venus/Mars pairings that the Mars person is supposed to be the one who instigates the romance. So for some women who play Mars, maybe they feel awkward being the one to make the first move?

Just an observation!

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meta_4I've read somewhere that when it comes to Venus/Mars pairings that the Mars person is supposed to be the one who instigates the romance. So for some women who play Mars, maybe they feel awkward being the one to make the first move?

Just an observation!

GREAT thread by the way!

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THANX! I'm glad you enjoy the post. I would say that I have made the same observation as far as the Male-Venus / Female-Mars combination.

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DiandraReborn25 it is not coincidence really..i also believe that when we start growing and evolving in spirituality,we also attract those who are intune with us,spiritualy wise.

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Woah! That's freaky! Is this really true? This stuff makes me feel like Neo and now the question burns inside of me... "What is the Matrix?

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I.Q.Her Jupiter conjunct your Juno satisfies this criteria. Jupiter represents the ideal husband in terms of growth, knowledge, being a friend philosopher and guide etc.

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Oh wow! It's true and that's exactly how things play out.

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I.Q. You both are actually blessed to have two Soulmate Pair Conjunctions. PSYCHE-EROS and JUNO-Jupiter.
My 6th sense tells me you both have a strong Valentine in synastry.

Why dont you post the natal charts and composite with ISIS 42, OSIRIS 1923, VALENTINE 447, UNION 1585, KARMA 3811, AMOR 1221, EROS, PSYCHE, SIVA 1170 and KAALI 4227.

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Thanx I.Q. I honestly do FEEL blessed, or better still, I feel chosen. It doesn't feel like what we have between us is only about us, but also for the benefit of others. The whole thing about [Twin Flames) having a desire to serve makes sense. I think the evolution inspired by true love causes one to go through two primary steps _

• 1. Knowledge of Self. The discovery of who and what we actually are through an understanding of one's innate talents and gifts.

• 2. Knowledge of Purpose: How one fits into the Grand Scheme of Things, or how one is to use those specific talents and gifts in order to serve a cause greater than the Self.

My Valentine is in the sign of (Aries), hers is in (Sagittarius).

I don't actually have a composite chart for us because I am uncertain about her ascendant. I have done the midpoints between our natal charts, but that's all. I will post those asteroids later today.

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Vapor-Lash You mentioned Virgo sun and you do remind me a little of my grandpa (Virgo with Moon/Mercury/Venus in Libra + Leo Mars).
I'd guess Libra Moon..Leo Mercury and Venus in Libra. Am I close?
Or if you want it to be private, that is OK.

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Oh, vapor-lash, you are good! I am a novice, but you... you... you have got a Gift my friend.

• Ascendant / Leo

• Sun / Virgo

• Moon / Libra

• Mercury / Virgo

• Venus / Libra

• Mars / Aquarius
  

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vapor-lash I contacted the hospital and the person I spoke to agreed to the time. As it turns out, when I visited the hospital in person and asked for records, they had 10:20 am as the time. It's a touch more frustrating because Venus also changes signs in this 5 minute time-frame.. from 29'59 Aries at 10:15 to 00'02 Taurus at 10:20.
My North Node is at 00'06 Taurus.

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Don't you just hate that? It's like you can't fully know yourself. Argh!!!

posted December 22, 2009 04:39 PM            

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Oh, vapor-lash, you are good! I am a novice, but you... you... you have got a Gift my friend.

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posted December 22, 2009 05:11 PM            

I prefer the 1st movie (analyze this) but the 2nd was pretty good also!

I don't think anyone can make me laugh like Robert De Niro!

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Ahhhhhhh vapor-Lash, you caught that! I didn't know if you would or not, but yep, that's exactly what I was referring to when I said that. Wow! You've even got a pic of it... No, you're good you... YOU're Good. You saw what I was trying to do over here and you saw through that, that's why you are who you are... You're very good.

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posted December 22, 2009 05:20 PM            

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I prefer the 1st movie (analyze this)

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posted December 22, 2009 05:51 PM            

I'm not saying that the two won't be attracted to one another! Absolutely not! I've been the Mars girl on many occasions!

posted December 22, 2009 06:01 PM            

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Meta_4 Anywho, what i meant was that the attraction just drives you crazy instead of being something that you can easily enjoy.

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posted December 22, 2009 06:16 PM              

i know you were joking but...it is exactly that...it is part of the Matrix ..all that happens really.

you can choose to see it like Neo,and ask yourself if you want to take the blue pill or the red pill

Once you choose to enter your discovering of your spirituality ( it is infact what is REAL),then you can never go back.

it is a complex thing to explain. but all the people that enters your life,it was You who asked for it ( subconsciously).Even your actual lover,it was you who attracted it.

just ask yourself this:who was I wheen i met her?where was I,at my life+s road?what did i needed?...if you ask important questions like these,you find the answer.

posted December 22, 2009 06:27 PM            

From my experience, yes, when the Man is Venus and the woman is Mars you are attracted to one another but you have difficulty dealing with it, or expressing it. Like Nightingale said, her partner thought that she came on too strong, and she thought he took forever to pick up the hint!

posted December 22, 2009 06:48 PM            

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meta_4 As you being the Venus, you didn't feel submissive, or needy when it came to her? You didn't feel really emotional and clingy and awkward?

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I don't remember ever being the Venus. Right now though, I am the Psyche in my Eros/ Psyche conjunction, but this is the greatest thing ever in my life.

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DiandraReborn25 i know you were joking but...it is exactly that...it is part of the Matrix ..all that happens really.

you can choose to see it like Neo,and ask yourself if you want to take the blue pill or the red pill

Once you choose to enter your discovering of your spirituality ( it is infact what is REAL),then you can never go back.

it is a complex thing to explain. but all the people that enters your life,it was You who asked for it ( subconsciously).Even your actual lover,it was you who attracted it.

just ask yourself this:who was I wheen i met her?where was I,at my life+s road?what did i needed?...if you ask important questions like these,you find the answer.

the asteroids and astrology will only confirm what you already know.

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Woah Diandra, that was deep and you nailed it. Two years ago I was writing about God as the Grand Organizing Design and how each thing has it's own I.D (Individual Design). This led my to contemplate the essence of what the soul was. During that time I met this woman and had these spiritual experiences which allowed me to view, first hand, the very things I could only speculate about up until that time.

As you suggest, she came into my life right on cue. Then you add the telepathy and the synchronicity that even 3rd parties have witnessed and confirmed and I would have to say that yes... All of this, in principle is just like the Matrix. The way you put it just now, as the Matrix being a metaphor for spiritual awakening, is perfect because that is exactly how it is. Being born again into the knowledge of Self, and then into the knowledge of God and design. All of these things are connected.

As these things occurred I could no longer even view the woman romantically alone. I developed a greater regard as if God was always WATCHING! It seemed like a perversion and rebellion against universal law and the great gift that she represented. This spiritual stuff is serious business, but again, like Morpheus says "You have to see it for yourself."