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Topic: Venus / Mars planets vs Eros / Psyche asteroids.
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Polo C Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 23, 2009 01:32 AM
quote: I.Q.- You want to know about the telepathy? Psyche is one small factor. Asteroid PALLAS can answer the other factors. Pallas and Mercury both aspecting Neptune = Telepathy. Moon and Kaali (4227) aspecting Neptune = Telepathic Dreams and Past life recalls of one another.
My Pallas (gemini) is opposite her Neptune (sagittarius). My Mercury (virgo) is square. Her Pallas (aries) is trine my Neptune (sagittarius) Her Mercury (cancer) is in-conjunct. I may be wrong, but I don't see how much telepathy or synchronicity can result from that. I am wondering if it has anything to do with her moon in (aquarius) or mine in (libra). There is definitely a deep emotional connection and sync between us. Maybe the psychic events are influenced by that? Oh! I just thought of something. In the composite chart, our Moon / Neptune are conjunct (sagittarius) at a (5.04 degree Orb) and our Mercury / Neptune are trine. Maybe this would explain it. I imagine that psychic events then are heightened by us being together. This would indicate that, as a couple, we can each reach spiritual depths we cannot achieve separately as individuals. Am I reading this right I.Q.? If so, this would make sense, as this already seems to be the case with us. My consciousness has already been elevated by these experiences and in life, whenever we are together, the most bizarre and undeniable occurrences take place that upset the foundation of long held traditional beliefs about the way the world works. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2009 05:58 AM
I think I remember that in an old topic about telepathy IQ said that Pallas- Neptune or Pallas-Moon was indicative of telepathic gifts in the natal. so maybe this might also work for synastry charts.IP: Logged |
Unmoved Knowflake Posts: 2196 From: Registered: May 2009
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posted December 23, 2009 06:51 AM
Just responding to the original post:I have this with someone, Eros/Psyche conjunction, and I am the Eros person and his Psyche is Retrograde which made me wonder. Anyway, we have not connected physically, so I have no idea how this connection manifests, but I am hopeful because I was getting worried that we didn't have enough "sexual"ly transcending aspects, which is what I need as a Scorpio AC, Scorpio Mars and Scorpio Eros. I can't deal with "superficial" things - mentally or physically. We also have a Juno/NN double whammy, with Juno trine NN and Juno opposite NN. I am Juno in the opposing aspect and he is Juno in the trine. I have often wondered how this manifests in our relationship. The only thing that I saw going for our synastry was that our AC/IC are conjunct, and there were too many binding heavy stuff without the fun bits - and adding asteroids certainly does put more spice into the mix as far as a sexual attraction is concerned. I will catch up and read the other responses when I find time to see if any of my questions are answered there. IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 unregistered
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posted December 23, 2009 07:24 AM
Polowell times ago LL had a problem and we could not enter or register.when the forum was up again,i had to make another nickname,and chose to put Reborn. since march,that i feel i am a newborn,cause like you,i also started to search my own spirituality,and awareness in Life. there are some books that you might engoy i think: conversations with God,celestine prophecy,Game of Life ( Florence Scovel),the ones from Eckart Tolle and Napoleon Hill. I wonder if you red some of it already.all that you say resonate with me too IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 1141 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2009 10:33 AM
quote: You want to know about the telepathy? Psyche is one small factor. Asteroid PALLAS can answer the other factors. Pallas and Mercury both aspecting Neptune = Telepathy. Moon and Kaali (4227) aspecting Neptune = Telepathic Dreams and Past life recalls of one another.
People are constantly talking about how incredibly connected my brother and i are. We're definitely soulmates, and there's definitely a telepathic bond between us. Our aspects: Pallas conjunct Pallas (exact!) His Pallas opposite my Neptune His Mercury inconjunct My Neptune (inconjunct isn't outstanding..) Kaali conjunct Moon DW His Moon conjunct my Mercury/trine my Neptune With another possible soulmate i have: Pallas conjunct Pallas His Pallas opposite/His Mercury conjunct my Neptune My Pallas trine/My Mercury sextile his Neptune Kaali opposite Kaali (my Kaali conj his ASC) My Kaali sextile/My Moon square his Neptune His Moon sextile/His Kaali sextile my Neptune Sextile and trines aren't great, but it's better than nothing! And from checking with other synastries, those who seem to be on the same "wavelength" as me form similar aspects. IP: Logged |
Nightingale Knowflake Posts: 257 From: Registered: Jun 2009
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posted December 23, 2009 11:35 AM
I would be interested in how to interpret this double whammy:Mars (male) parallel Venus (female) + Mars (female) square Venus (male) Obviously a lot of people would interpret this as very "hot" - however what interests me is the degree or not people think the parallel (working like a conjunction) is offset or undermined by the square. IP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 1277 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted December 23, 2009 01:51 PM
quote: Well Jane, you know it is said that with these asteroids, only the conjunctions, oppositions and squares have real effects. Trines too, but to a much lesser degree.
Meh. Experience proves otherwise. I don't give much credence to guidelines like those. I think that idea comes from the belief that asteroids are weak, so only the dynamic aspects will be felt since they add force. I don't look at asteroids like that. And I sure haven't felt them like that. Trines get knocked around a bit, have a reputation for being boring and lazy. But I've heard that the triangle is the strongest, most enduring shape (not the square). When you're in a trine, you're in a hypnotic state that flows through your whole self. Sharing that state with someone sexually sure doesn't feel boring or mild to me. Trines are an oasis you have with that person, the nature of it (sexual or familial or intellectual, etc) determined by the planets/asteroids involved. If trines can produce laziness and complacency, it's not because they're weak, but because they're so strong and so seductive that people are content living in them forever. quote: What is it in the chart that indicates that the feelings would be one-sided?
His Venus is far more active. So is his Mars. Very interesting that you have Psyche cnj your SN! With Eros cnj mine, this myth resonated with me as well. I suspect this is often the case, that people feel a strong bond with the themes touching their SN. And then you have Eros cnj your Sun, while I have Psyche opp my Moon. I understand why this means so much to you. quote: In your Eros / Psyche relationships, how was the conjunction different from the opposition?
I liked the opposition-partner very much. I was deeply in love with the conjunction-partner. Sexual attraction was about the same for both, although the sex itself was far better with the conjunction guy. I don't think my experiences here can be reduced to a difference between cnj's and opp's though. IP: Logged |
Polo C Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 23, 2009 02:57 PM
quote: Jane - Meh. Experience proves otherwise. I don't give much credence to guidelines like those. I think that idea comes from the belief that asteroids are weak, so only the dynamic aspects will be felt since they add force. I don't look at asteroids like that. And I sure haven't felt them like that.
Me either. I have a post about it in the Twin Flames thread where I explain the way the 7 chakras have an affect on it all. IP: Logged |
DD Knowflake Posts: 7076 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted December 23, 2009 05:08 PM
Jane,"But I've heard that the triangle is the strongest, most enduring shape (not the square). When you're in a trine, you're in a hypnotic state that flows through your whole self" I agree with you. I start seeing how strong a connection by a triangle can be. Maybe not as dramatic as in other aspects, but that flowing is always there. I share a Grand trine with someone of my Venus-Isis-Osiris to his Venus-Karma-Aphrodite and his Pluto. And my Mars-ASC is quinkunx his Venus-Karma and squares his Pluto. Unbreakable! BTW I also started to take stronger notice of what I call "closed circuits" to interprete these configurations together, and not in an isolated way. And it seems that triangles are very common in attractions; of course a T-square is also some sort of triangle though.
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Polo C Newflake Posts: 0 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted December 23, 2009 06:31 PM
So, are you two suggesting that a Venus trine Mars, although less in your face with it's intensity, would be more lasting or enduring than a conjunction?If so, please elaborate with examples from your own experience. It does seem to me though that many things established astrologers say about contacts don't always work out to be so in actual reality. I think more surveys need to be done with larger groups of people who can verify these things in their own lives. IP: Logged |