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woah city
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posted January 01, 2010 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
ebbs and flows and so many shades of grey. i don't mind a little controversy personally.. things can be misinterpreted so easily. if someone's being a dick, everyone will interpret that dickishness in a different way. and the reactions will seem dickish to a lot of people, and so on and so on. i like the freedom here. insults and over the top rude behaviour is one thing but when someone's being playful or is even just in a mood, i don't get riled up about it. no point.

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woah city
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posted January 01, 2010 06:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
ebbs and flows and so many shades of grey. i don't mind a little controversy personally.. things can be misinterpreted so easily. if someone's being a dick, everyone will interpret that dickishness in a different way. and the reactions will seem dickish to a lot of people, and so on and so on. i like the freedom here. insults and over the top rude behaviour is one thing but when someone's being playful or is even just in a mood, i don't get riled up about it. no point.

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Nightingale
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posted January 01, 2010 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nightingale     Edit/Delete Message
Quite right Star

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woah city
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posted January 01, 2010 06:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
holy SH!T cheshire, are you alright? i had a similar experience several years ago with a cop (and witnessed way too much brute force being inflicted on several people in this one particular situation). so many cops are on power trips and that is a totally valid point about some mods' decisions in my observation. but mods are people too with bad days like the rest of us. the cop thing is a different story though obviously.

you should file charges against him.

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted January 01, 2010 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
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insults and over the top rude behaviour is one thing

And that's my main gripe. Just blantantly insulting another poster, calling them derogatory names, etc. That's where I draw the line.

I don't have a problem with disagreements. There's a lot of stuff I disagree with that people post here; sometimes I say so, sometimes not. I don't even think telling someone they are full of it is necessarily bad, but there's a right way and a wrong way to do anything. No need for disrespect. The "call out" threads really get my goat.

If you have something to say to someone, say it to them privately, and especially don't create a brand new thread to just trash talk.

I find it even more incredulous that a person would behave in such a manner when they have received so much emotional support from this community.

I am hoping that this conversation among ourselves and with the mods will lead to a cracking down on that kind of nonsense.

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woah city
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posted January 01, 2010 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for woah city     Edit/Delete Message
my point, though, is that people will often stoop just as low as the insulter and/or create just as much drama, which just feeds the problem in my opinion. i dunno, it all seems so convoluted when this stuff happens and i don't really invest much emotion in it.

i think freedom-orientation is better than crackdown-orientation cuz where do you draw the line exactly? or maybe i just find it so darn interesting when the waves come into LL and on some level enjoy watching it play out, anthropologically speaking. maybe that makes me part of the problem?

i think chilling in general, though, starves bad behaviour and complaining/fighting back feeds it. except in extreme cases where it's warranted, like in some examples listed above. it's just a forum, not life and death, so that's why it doesn't really get to me. it's just a bunch of opinions.

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Cheshire Kat
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posted January 01, 2010 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cheshire Kat     Edit/Delete Message
I don't want to ruin Star's thread because this is a very important thread and issue on LL and Im glad Star started it because I think LL needed this chat, even though there are a few "Call out" threads but thankfully there are more "I apologise for my comments" threads because it shows there are really some sincere people on LL.

Woah City, Im on medicine for my head and getting plenty of rest but emotionally Im just spent and I have not decided if I am going to file charges or not a part of me is afraid of the police dept. but another part me is sad that they would even use such brute force like that..though not all of them are like that..I just want to weed out the scary ones..

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Polo C
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posted January 01, 2010 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
Hey guys and gals, I tried to apologize and some just started attacking me on my own apology thread.

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PeaceAngel
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posted January 02, 2010 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
The ideal is that we each have right to our expression and to disagree respectfully. It doesn't always work out that way and usually you'll find that people are themselves displaying the very behaviour they are condemning. Anyone can have a bad day. Not everyone is capable of saying sorry. Not making such a big deal of it helps sometimes.

Ignoring posters or posts that you don't like goes a long way. It's not always possible. Sometimes there are just personality clashes. They blow-up every now and then. They're always short lived. Sometimes there are just aggressors or controversy stirrers. Usually they're called on it or most people ignore them and their threads. Another pattern is that every now and then we see a new member arrive who tries to exert their energy or stir the pot. They soon see that that behaviour doesn't fit here. The ones that don't like that and can't respect differing perceptions to their own or don't get the attention they desire don't stay.

It's all cyclic and balance is restored quite quickly. LL is a relatively peaceful place, certainly more so than any other site I've seen.

No insults are tolerated. Difference of opinions are expected. Freedom of expression is everyone's right (fortunately and unfortunately). I prefer the "agree to disagree" policy. We're all here for different reasons.

It's a great site. It's up to everyone to hold their own integrity and be the best of themselves and help make this a peaceful, learning and joyous experience for themselves and everyone here.

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PeaceAngel
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posted January 02, 2010 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I do want to add that there have been a number of non-astrology related threads in the forum recently. This is the astrology forum. There are a number of other forums at LL that cover EVERY possible subject in our world. You can meet more Knowflakes - who don't visit this forum. There's a lot here. Explore. But this forum is for astrology (or forum related) matters. Thanks.

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koiflower
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posted January 02, 2010 01:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
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I tried to apologize and some just started attacking me on my own apology thread.

Is that the same thread you asked why I opened my "Fing mouth"

I think I had just posted a few hours ago on this thread, about being pushed over the edge, then 5 minutes later I read that I had opened my "Fing mouth"

Polo C - are you getting the idea about how other knowflakes like to communicate here, being a newbie?

I'm sure you are a fast learner

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koiflower
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posted January 02, 2010 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
Cheshire Kat - that's really awful about having your head bashed on a police car - that's real abuse of positions of responsibility. I'm sure you have a right for compensation here.

teasal - you are not allowed to leave

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PeaceAngel
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posted January 02, 2010 01:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
koi

Polo has been trying to make peace - amends for some earlier behaviour. Cut him some slack. And him you.

Or.......

do I have to deal with you the same way that teasel will be dealt with if there is any more talk of leaving?

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PeaceAngel
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posted January 02, 2010 01:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Polo C and koi

Peace. Or I will make you hold hands and dance to Abba music until there is peace between you - like I do with my children.

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StarrofVenusGirl
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posted January 02, 2010 01:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message
At least the handcuffs are fluffy.

Kinky. I like.

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Polo C
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posted January 02, 2010 01:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Polo C     Edit/Delete Message
There will be nothing from me but PEACE from now on... unlessssss ....

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PeaceAngel
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posted January 02, 2010 02:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
....unless what?

I knew the threat of listening to excessive amounts of Abba would work, Polo. Works every time.

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koiflower
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posted January 02, 2010 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
I've made peace with Polo - no really I have

Just have to make sure all comments are commented on and accounted for, so that there is consistency across the board, and that little seeds don't grow back into mighty choak trees

Blame it on my Virgoan side

ABBA? Please, please make it Doris Day!!!

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PeaceAngel
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posted January 02, 2010 02:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Oh koi.

I have Virgo South Node. So, in essence - been there, done that.

Haven't we all.

I can't really condone the Doris Day thing (even though she's an Arien). Perhaps we can compromise? Barry Manilow?

So... you said something about pillow fights...

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PeaceAngel
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posted January 02, 2010 02:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
I believe that when we conflict with others, that it's only ourselves with whom we seek to make peace. So, the question is, what is it that the other person triggers in you that they mirror in you or you can learn from them?

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koiflower
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posted January 02, 2010 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
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I have Virgo South Node. So, in essence - been there, done that.

Like this?

Or this?

Or this?

Or this?

Or this?

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vapor-lash
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posted January 02, 2010 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message
@ koiflower lol

Love the emoticons!

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koiflower
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posted January 02, 2010 02:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
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other person triggers in you that they mirror in you or you can learn from them?

No - I just don't like being asked why I opened my "Fing mouth", when I had posted a lovely message.

I shouldn't have to sit in a corner after being asked that. Why should I?

I would never tell anyone why on earth they opened their "Fing mouth" after they had posted something.

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PeaceAngel
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posted January 02, 2010 02:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PeaceAngel     Edit/Delete Message
Like the visuals. I think you just about covered my entire chart.

Taurus Mars? Check.
Aqua Moon? Check.
Sun opposite Uranus? Check.
Sun conjunct AC? Check.
Aries Sun? Check.

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koiflower
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posted January 02, 2010 02:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for koiflower     Edit/Delete Message
Or I could cry

"Why me?"

or "Thank you for asking me to open my Fing mouth"

Or, "You dirdy birdy you"

ps, thanks vapor

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