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Topic: Question for Moderators
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StarrofVenusGirl
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Registered: Jun 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 10:45 AM
 
Please feel free to move this to another forum if it's not the right place...I realize that moderation is a little "lenient" on this site, but I don't understand how people are able to just be blatantly insulting, rude, and disrespectful to other members and still be allowed to stay here. I'm not just talking about Belgz, although that post is what triggered this one. I've seen a lot of trash talk going on here, and I think it might be tolerated in the name of letting people express their individuality but at some point enough is enough...at any other site, some of the behavior that goes on here would cause someone to be BANNED, not just have the topic closed. Why are the insults and ridicule tolerated? Whether we agree with someone's opinions, philosophies, etc. or not, there's a certain level of behavior that should be expected, especially here! We are the "enlightened ones" after all, right? Very disappointed, in a lot of people. ------------------
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Lara
Knowflake Posts: 2370
From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 10:46 AM
Happy New Year Starr! IP: Logged |
Unmoved
Moderator Posts: 1300
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Registered: May 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 10:56 AM
We, the moderators, will suggest who gets banned, by "opening a case" against said people, with evidence to back it up, etc. The final say is upon the webmaster, whether he sees fit or not. If you have a case to open, go to any Moderators link to email and just write to us and tell us who and why, and we will forward it to Randall. 'Sorry that you're not satisfied, Starr. P.S. It is also out of my jurisdiction to do anything in a forum I do not Moderate, so the most I could do on other forums is speak up; whereas, at my forum I would edit posts and such, to remove content which I find unsatisfactory. But, still, I can not ban anyone. IP: Logged |
StarrofVenusGirl
Knowflake Posts: 510
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Registered: Jun 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 12:12 PM
I understand your limitations in this forum, Unmoved. Thank you for explaining to me how things work. I'll keep that in mind the next time I see something really offensive that's directed at someone personally. Happy New Year Lara! IP: Logged |
Nine
Knowflake Posts: 331
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Registered: May 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 12:23 PM
Why are people so vicious? Gemini here, so any move to censor communication gets me in a knot. IP: Logged |
pire
Knowflake Posts: 1140
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 12:23 PM
I like this laid back attitude personallyI'm not saying I like the insults but the freedom
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taurusvirgoleolady1974
Knowflake Posts: 184
From: a previous life
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 12:36 PM
you must have not been here long. you would be surprised what people say and how far they take it. one that come to mind is jwhop, who was able to display hateful racist political images and messaqes, so many times, i mean this guy would really go on and on. i know i, as well as others, felt like we were on a white supremecist website, not an astrological one. no one said or did anything to him. no one even reminded him that this is not the place for it.its funny though, that people will go completely mad if you stereotype their sun sign. its crazy. so please say "not all" because someone will get upset and then you have to explain it, even though you shouldnt have to.
at the same time, sometimes now, if the topic is not "astrologically related" a mod will come swooping down and telling you to move it somewhere else, and then the topic starter may get uncomfortable, and have to tweak the topic just a bit. a conrol thing, i think.
Also, dont say anything if you may have found a "troll" because people will get upset with you for calling out the troll. but no one gets mad at the troll! go figure.
this is why i dont post much. i love lindaland, but sometimes its bass ackwards.
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teasel
Knowflake Posts: 416
From: Ohio
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 03:10 PM
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Also, dont say anything if you may have found a "troll" because people will get upset with you for calling out the troll. but no one gets mad at the troll! go figure.
I remember saying that I didn't see someone as a troll - she was acting like one at the time, but she'd been a member here for a long while. If they post enough material that's considered distasteful, then they are usually taken care of - in the meantime, some will play along, and others will call them on it. I avoid Global Unity, for the most part, but spend time defending people against racist remarks in my every day life. I rarely come across anyone talking smack about Sun signs, away from the computer. IP: Logged |
Quinnie
Knowflake Posts: 175
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 03:11 PM
I don't think it's fair that people are punished for being directly confrontational, even if it's rude or personal, when there are others who indirectly manipulate others, play with their words and take advantage.
I think Randall is very aware of this and that's why he doesn't just throw people off the site.
If a person is offensive but they are smart about it they get away with it.
People have the right to exchange their feelings and when some of the exchanges are out of character, that is simply what they are!... and yes close their thread! But when someone is consistent with their personal insults both directly and indirectly that's when it may be down to Randall to close their membership.Just my 2p IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 416
From: Ohio
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 03:22 PM
Quinnie.  *edit. quote:
If a person is offensive but they are smart about it they get away with it.
People have the right to exchange their feelings and when some of the exchanges are out of character, that is simply what they are!... and yes close their thread! But when someone is consistent with their personal insults both directly and indirectly
This is why I was surprised at the complaints about the Godzala threads, in another forum. I'd noticed a little bit of sniping amongst members (directed at others here), but it isn't anything unusual. It's been going on for years, all over the forums. IP: Logged |
popcorn
Knowflake Posts: 626
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Registered: Aug 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 03:35 PM
Nine. I say as you. I also get that bad feelings. For me it looks like there are hierarchy in here. Some people are afraid they will puts down a step. You know strong/charismatic people can take more place and room and their self. Another word are envious or jealousy. I think it's to much of it here just now...... IP: Logged |
lalalinda
Moderator Posts: 389
From: nevada
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 03:38 PM
Insults are not tolerated here Starr,
we do try and stay on top of those situations but sometimes it just slips through the cracks.If you are having a problem in this forum feel free to contact me, PeaceAngel or Randall and your issue will be taken care of. Wishing all of you Lovelies the happiest of New Years. IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 2370
From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 04:43 PM
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hierarchy in here
I agree.. i see a hierarchy in here. I have mentioned it before last summer in think on a thread which discussed similar issues. IP: Logged |
DD
Knowflake Posts: 2558
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 04:45 PM
What hierarchy?
I see a certain grouping here, but I am not sure I understand what you mean by hierarchy.
Could you explain?
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Lara
Knowflake Posts: 2370
From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 04:56 PM
Ok, maybe hierarchy is the wrong word... more of a gang mentality that rises and falls, ebbs and flows. I see it a lot, probably because sometimes i am on the receiving end of it!!IP: Logged |
Spanky Butler
Knowflake Posts: 453
From: Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 04:59 PM
StarofVenusgirlPeaceAngel has been away for the Xmas & New Year Holidays as have many others which is why we have been left unmoderated for a little while. What bothers me about this is that it's like the second mum turns her back, the kids raise havoc. That's a shame. IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 416
From: Ohio
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 05:35 PM
Oh, I didn't mean anything against PeaceAngel (or any other Mod). I think PA's doing a great job, and I'm not surprised that belgz's thread was closed. It was Quinnie's mention of others getting away with nastiness (in other forums, not just this one), that I agreed with.Happy New Year, lalalinda,   (and everyone else.) IP: Logged |
Spanky Butler
Knowflake Posts: 453
From: Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 05:49 PM
teaselI didn't mean to make anyone feel bad, sorry if I did. I just wanted to point out that it was xmas & people are away visiting family etc & to also point out that it's sad that some of us can't moderate our own behaviour, is all. The eclipse is past now & I think we should all just let the last few days angst go. There are better things to fight about in my opinion.  IP: Logged |
koiflower
Knowflake Posts: 1308
From: Australia
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 06:00 PM
I must be honest and admit that I've been pushed over the edge here at LL. After 18 months of being polite and diplomatic, seeing regular insults ended it for me. But I'm sensitive and do try to be rational, although it can be hard when one is born with feelings.taurusvirgoleolady1974 - your comment about the troll...!!! Let me tell you my 'short' story...... There was a bully at work. She bullied others. Then one day, she started aggressive acts towards me. One day, it involved the safety of a child. I complained. I was ignored. I complained some more. I was chastised. I complained again, being a triple fire sign and totally indignant about the whole matter. Then, I was chosen as the person to be transferred, when an opening at another workplace was created...!!!! Go figure that one!!!!. Bullying does need confronting (esp if you have Fire in your chart). But maybe many people like the comfort of being a bystander rather than being a leader of change.
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Lonake
Knowflake Posts: 599
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 06:31 PM
Hi Koi, I encountered such a similar situation at work this past week involving similar BS, and it's true: If you speak out against the BS you're seen as being the one with the problem and the one who needs to be quieted down, probably because you're seen as stirring the pot. I don't have much fire in my chart, but just can't stand sitting by.Forgive if this is too off-topic. IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 416
From: Ohio
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 06:33 PM
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I must be honest and admit that I've been pushed over the edge here at LL. After 18 months of being polite and diplomatic, seeing regular insults ended it for me.
It took me almost 2 1/2 years, but I try to keep a lid on it. I'm going to have to leave soon, because I'm in danger of being deliberately insensitive to one who considers themselves to be exceptionally deep. There are enough people fighting there, so I'm not needed. quote:
Bullying does need confronting (esp if you have Fire in your chart).
I agree (Sun, Mercury and Jupiter in Aries here). How many people on a message board, need to get involved, though? It's one thing to maybe make a thread, and then take a vote on something (no further insults or squabbling allowed). It's another for everyone to pile in (though I've been there!). I was fine with the person I mentioned, being dealt with; it was just out of character for her, from what I knew of her. IP: Logged |
Lara
Knowflake Posts: 2370
From: aspideronmars
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 06:36 PM
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It took me almost 2 1/2 years, but I try to keep a lid on it. I'm going to have to leave soon, because I'm in danger of being deliberately insensitive to one who considers themselves to be exceptionally deep. There are enough people fighting there, so I'm not needed.
who Teasel? Whisper in my ear... i wanna know!!! Something in my chart can't stand it when i don't know what's going on!! Don't leave, please IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 416
From: Ohio
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 06:43 PM
 Lara, I think you were in one of the threads.  The trouble will pass, and this person has their good points. I just don't appreciate their attitude at the moment - I've had it with the hating, and don't want to add to it. I've tried leaving here for good, in the past, but it never happens. There are too many good people here. I've been here since September 2002 - it was 2 1/2 years after that (thereabouts), that I was referring to. quote:
The eclipse is past now & I think we should all just let the last few days angst go. There are better things to fight about in my opinion.
I agree. I'm bowing out now. I don't want to cause any more trouble for the mods. IP: Logged |
Cheshire Kat
Knowflake Posts: 391
From: Wonderland
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 06:49 PM
I don't know, sometimes the moderators bully the forum members and abuse their authority(power) of the forum..just go look in LLC2 or LLC..to see what Im talking about..I've experienced first hand Wed. night that the people who have authority that your suppose to put your trust in to protect you are the ones you "need" to watch out for. I got my head slammed into a police car by a 270 pound police officer while I was crying and scared because I've never been arrested before, all because I stated the "brutality" of arresting my loved one and I was extremely upset and decided to give the officer a piece of my mind. I had to go to hospital because my head felt like a rock.. So what can you do..? I just don't put much stock in anyone anymore(especially authority)..plus nobody is perfect..so Im not putting the blame on the Mods..Im just saying I don't put much "stock" in them..when I am on this forum to settle things.. IP: Logged |
taurusvirgoleolady1974
Knowflake Posts: 184
From: a previous life
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted January 01, 2010 06:49 PM
teasel i understand, i try to leave every day myself. but i am here every day. amazing isnt it?
i try to ignore some things, its hard, though. but this is where i learn the majority of astrology at.
lara, i too, noticed certain people get loads of attention, albiet a simple thread that seems to be for fun, like, "guess the rising sign" but when an unpopular person has a serious issue, for instance, "what are my progressions; worried about losing my job" type thing, they dont get alot of responses. i still get ****** , but what can you do.
koi, how are you.
*wow thats a pretty sucky story* that should not have happened to you. IP: Logged |
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