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jane
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posted February 02, 2010 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ooh, midpoint talk. I love them. I even propose that the most efficient way to understand a person is to study their tight hard aspects followed by their midpoints. All the rest - tight harmonious aspects, signs, houses, etc. - will tell you how that initial information plays out for the person.

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posted February 02, 2010 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
REally, Jane?
That is an interesting thought.
Can you read me this way?

So you would be looking at conjunction, opposition, square and conj, square and opp to midpoints?

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posted February 02, 2010 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Raymond -

"Sorry. I don't even know what I was saying there.

It's like how you have your Sun cnj both the Helio and Geo Eris Nodes. How would it be different if you had your Sun cnj only one of those Nodes?"

I don't think that it would be much difference because the more outer,distant an object is, the more heliocentric and geocentric nodes converge. Its collective energy would still be stronger with Sun aspecting both of them. Personal contacts to the nodes of outer objects tend to be more significant any way

The heliocentric nodes of an object are always exactly opposite each other. This is not the case with the geocentric nodes. There are certain periods that the geocentric nodes and heliocentric nodes of an object converge with each other,and so an object aspects both nodal axises. This was the case for me when I was born.


"Similarly, my Sun is cnj both the Helio and Geo Venus Nodes. My Vertex is cnj the the Helio and Geo Uranus Nodes. And my DSC is cnj both the Helio and Geo Eris Nodes."

Should I simply think of this as Venus, Uranus, and Eris energies having a strong impact on me?

Absolutely. You're strong in those energies. Those energies are very pronounced in you.

"edit: Basically, I'm having a tough time thinking about the way we would experience a collective node. Maybe that's because we don't experience it; it's about other people experiencing us? I apologize if this is incoherent gibberish, just brainstorming with my fingers."


Well....with a strong personal contact to a collective node, there is a possibility the person can have a huge impact on a lot of people pertaining to the energy of the node.

for example

with my Sun-Eris Node aspects,

I am hoping to have a huge impact on a lot of people by forming a nonprofit neurodiversity organization for people in USA.

this would fit with the diversity,equality,advocacy theme of Eris. NOW (National Organization for Women) was founded on my birthday 5 years before I was born. It has the Sun-Eris Node aspects too. I am a member,and I joined before I knew about its birthday and Sun-Eris Node aspects.

of course, if I misuse the collective Eris energy, I can be highly controversial and discordant.

I am bound to be viewed that way by people that think neurodivergence is a disorder like people that believe ADHD is a disorder and needs to be medicated as well as anybody that wants things to stay as they are. My mission is to advocate for acceptance and tolerance of neurological/learning differences and to view them as a variation of the human condition. Not as a disorder nor a gift. Something neutral. I want to push for education and psychiatric reform to help prevent neurodivergents from being misplaced in special education classes for the mentally retarded,having problems learning in school,and being misdiagnosed and put on psychiatric medications that they don't need.


I feel that I am very likely to come off more controversial,discordant than a person that has Sun conjunct Eris the object itself.

My shamanic healer and best friend, Steve Flores happens to have Sun conjunct Eris with half a degree orb. I believe that I met him to help me deal with my Eristic energies better. He is helping me prepare for my main life purpose of helping people with neurological/learning differences. He is also neurodivergent who has a history of special education like myself. He was recommended by a woman who gave me a soul purpose reading,telling me that I am meant to help the Indigo,Crystal children. I met both of them January of last year. He also has Neptune sextile/trine Midheaven/Imum Coeli, and I have Heliocentric Neptune Nodes sextile Midheaven/Imum.

I met a woman named Jamie who happens to have Sun conjunct Eris less than 1 degree too. I recommended her to Steve. She is a neurodivergent too. He now does healings on her, and they get along just fine. He just initiated her into Reiki.


Raymond

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Thanks for the compliment Jane. I like my chart too.

Did I just blow smoke up my own a$$ then? Rofl.

He's the synastry chart of me & my bubby (don't tell him I called him that, now that he's 9 years old my pet names for him have become an embarrassment according to him)



I've added a few trans neptunians for Raymond. I'm such a dunce when it comes to the more in depth astrology.

Raymond if you are about can you show me if their are any troubling aspects to worry about please.

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posted February 03, 2010 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD -

I'd love to read you that way, especially if you provide me with the data.

Identifying midpoint aspects is tedious unless you have the natal memorized. Although I stare at your chart in candlelight every evening , I've yet to commit to to memory.

So if you'd like to play, let me know:

Your conjunctions, oppositions (4 degree orb) and squares (3 deg orb).

Your midpoint configs (same hard aspects as above). 1 degree orb. 1.5 deg orb if the Sun, Moon, Asc, or MC are involved.

Your call if you'd like to include asteroids and which ones. If you do, please select them judiciously and mercifully and cut the orbs in half.

You can email me or post your info here.

BTW, a sincere "wow" to our shared yod. Perhaps together we'll figure out what it means. What houses are involved for you?

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posted February 03, 2010 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Raymond -

quote:
I feel that I am very likely to come off more controversial,discordant than a person that has Sun conjunct Eris the object itself.

Yes, that makes sense. You would come off as that because others would be predisposed to viewing you that way since you're touching their own Eris Nodes. It's like when someone touches our lunar Nodes - they feel significant in our lives, like someone we're meant to know. Plus, your own Sun really is infused with Eris energy so reality will match their expectations.

Your own advocacy is a perfect example of how personal contact with collective nodes work. Thanks, you really helped me understand this.

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Should I simply think of this as Venus, Uranus, and Eris energies having a strong impact on me?

Absolutely. You're strong in those energies. Those energies are very pronounced in you.


Midpoints strike again: I have my Sun cnj my Venus/Uranus mp, reinforcing their influence. I also have my Sun cnj my Eris/Moon mp.

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posted February 03, 2010 01:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Spanky -

For a moment I was even more enamored with your chart. It looked like you have two Venuses (Veni?) in your 8th house. In Scorpio, no less! Hot stuff. But alas, just my wonky eye playing tricks on me.

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posted February 03, 2010 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane,

"I'd love to read you that way, especially if you provide me with the data."
You know you can read me anytime.

Data is:
18th december 1974
7:07 a.m.(no, it is not a joke)
Viersen / Germany

But I will calculate it, too.


"I stare at your chart in candlelight every evening "
Yes, I know. My chart is irresistible.


"Your midpoint configs (same hard aspects as above). 1 degree orb. 1.5 deg orb if the Sun, Moon, Asc, or MC are involved."
No semisquares or sesisquares?
Damn it, all my sweet mp`s are semisquares, the nasty ones are conjunction and square.

"Ixion in the 1st
sextile Venus in the 3rd
quincunx Varuna in the 8th"
Varuna in the 8th seems to be the hot spot here.

In my chart:
Ixion in 11th
Venus in 1st
Varuna in 7th


"modifying influences: Venus cnj my name asteroid; Varuna cnj Vertex"
Wow, Varuna-Vertex!


In my case:
Venus conjunct Isis and Osiris
Varuna conjunct DESC exactly (Fama is there, too - hey maybe I should marry a famous water deity? ).

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posted February 03, 2010 03:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane,

I am back. With my natal aspects. Have fun.


Sun conjunct Mercury 0-53
Venus square Pluto 2-57
Venus square MC 1-09
Mars conjunct ASC 1-51
Jupiter square Neptune 1-16
Jupiter square NN 1-03
Neptune conjunct NN -13
Neptune conjunct ASC 2-56
NN conjunct ASC 3-09


Sun square Mars / Saturn - 08
Sun conjunct Jupiter / Pluto - 47
Sun square Saturn / ASC 1-03
MOon square Sun/ Pluto -24
Moon square MErcury / Pluto - 02
MErcury conjunct Moon / Uranus - 49
Mercury square Mars / Saturn 1-01
Mercury conjunct Jupiter / Pluto -06
Venus square Sun / Saturn -19
Venus square Mercury / Saturn -07
Venus conjunct Jupiter / uranus -10
Venus square Pluto /MC -54
Jupiter square MOon / MC -11
Uranus opposite Moon / Saturn -40
Neptune conjunct MOON / MC 1-05
Neptune square Saturn / uranus -47
ASC conjunct Mars / Neptune -32
ASC conjunct Mars / NN -39
MC conjunct Mercury Saturn 1-02
Moon square Mars /URanus 1-10
Saturn square Uranus / MC 1-13
MC square Jupiter / URanus 1-19

I also looked at a synastry:

his Sun square my Pluto / MC -35

his Mercury conjunct my Venus/Mars -03
his Mercury conjunct my Venus/ASC -58

his Venus conjunct my Moon / Pluto -03

his Mars ocnjunct my Sun/Uranus -22
his Mars square my Moon / Jupiter -01

his Jupiter square my Uranus / MC 1-00

his Saturn opposite my Mercury / Mars-22
his Saturn opposite my Sun / Mars -04
his Saturn opposite my MErcury / ASC -33
his Saturn opposite my Sun / ASC 1-00

his Uranus square my Sun/Moon 1-09
his Uranus square my Mars/Jupiter -32

his Neptune conjunct my Mars / ASC -02

his ASC conjunct my Neptune / NN -48
his ASC conjunct my Neptune / ASC -46
his ASC conjunct my NN / ASC -59

my Sun conjunct his Sun/Venus - 35
my Sun conjunct his Jupiter / Neptune - 44

my Sun square his Sun / Saturn -38
my Sun conjunct his Neptune / NN -34

my MOon square his Moon / Neptune -04
my MOon square his Venus / Uranus - 46

my Mercury conjunct his Sun / Venus - 18

my Venus square his pluto/MC -19

my Mars conjunct his Venus/Mars-53 ]/b]
my Mars conjunct his Mars/ASC 1-01
my Mars conjunct his Uranus / NN -24
my Mars conjunct his Jupiter / URanus -15

my Jupiter opposite his SAturn / NEptune -23
[b]my Jupiter square his Venus / ASC -02

my Saturn square his MOon / Pluto -47
my Saturn opposite his Jupiter / NN -04

my Uranus conjunct his Mars / Pluto -22

my Neptune square his Saturn / Neptune -53
my Neptune conjunct his Venus / Neptune -20
my Neptune conjunct his Mercury / mars 07

my NN square his Saturn / Neptune -40
my NN conjunct his Venus / Neptune -33
my NN conjunct his Mercury / Mars - 30
my NN conjunct his Venus / ASC 1-00

my ASC conjunct his Venus / Mars -58
my ASC conjunct his MOon / NN -22
my ASC conjunct his Moon / Jupiter - 32

my ASC conjunct his Neptune / ASC -41
my ASC sqquare his Mars / Saturn - 15

his Sun conjunct my Venus 1-30
his Sun square my MC 2-39
his Moon conjunct my Uranus 3-26
his Venus conjunct my Neptune 3-07
his Venus square my Jupiter 1-51
his Venus conjunct my NN 2-53
his Jupiter opposite my Saturn -13
his Neptune conjunct my Mars -58
his Neptune conjunct my ASC -53
his Pluto square my Venus 1-43
his Pluto conjunct my MC -04
his SN conjunct my SAturn -07
his ASC conjunct my Mars 4-05
his ASC square my Jupiter 1-57
his ASC conjunct my NN -55
his ASC conjunct my Neptune -41
his ASC conjunct my ASC 2-14
his MC square my Venus 2-20
his M conjunct my Pluto -37

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posted February 03, 2010 03:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD,

I took at look at your transits
in regards to transneptunians

I already told you before about transiting Ixion sextile your Moon and transiting Haumea trine your Moon.

Using 1 degree orb for transneptunian transits,
Transiting Makemake in 26'31 Virgo has been squaring your Sun.
The transit is exact on March 9th of this year.

Transiting Makemake went stationary direct on Christmas or the day after last year

I also couldn't help noticing that transiting Ixion is sextile your Moon exact just 2 days before that on March 7th. also transiting Haumea is exact 3 days before that on March 4th.

also
on March 3rd, transiting Makemake will start squaring your Mercury
The transit is exact on April 29, 2010.

Transiting Makemake is one of the classed dwarf planets along with Pluto,Eris,Haumea,and Ceres.


according to Philip Sedgwick

Dwarf Planet: Makemake (Easter Bunny / 136472 / 2005 FY9)

Orbital Period 309.00 yr., 2nd brightest KBO (Pluto #1), 1,250 km diameter? From Rapa Nui. Pronounced maki-maki.

Positive: Articulate and ultra-communicative. Self-assuredness, especially by verbal means. Clever, quick-witted and interested in invoking insight and inspiration with speech. Quick to report findings, regardless of impact. Courageous, possessing the willfulness to confront the peril required for discovery or spiritual evolution. Conscious of family security and safety. Protection of the brood.

Negative: Cunning and verbally manipulative. Double talk. Diversion of facts. Declaring false findings (laying an egg, so to speak). Taking flight to avoid consequence. Hiding as a coping skill. Reckless. Disregard for safety of the home. Self-serving.

Mundane: Data collection to support a doctrine or cause. Books, especially those of multi-cultural interest. Translation especially with a cross-cultural theme. Cultural synthesis. Integration of tasks. Computer iterations and/or algorithms. Dissemination of information whether true or false. Split second decisions. Lightning fast assessment. Fertility and fertility procedures. Birds. Fans. Eggs. Creeds. Documents of self declaration - affirmation statements, bios or autobiographies, a feather in one’s cap, selecting a safe location for nesting.

Ceremonial: Incantations. Oral remedies for healing. Meditations to unify the minds of several. Isolation for ceremonial purposes. Shamanic retreat. Cave ceremonies. Ceremonies involving hair cutting. Personal acceptance of one’s cause and karma. Ceremonies involving the use of feathers or eggs (feather fans, Eagle feather cleansing, the egg diagnostics of curanderos and curanderas - common in Ecuador, one of Rapa Nui’s neighbors).

as a transneptunian dwarf planet, it indicate evolutionary intensified lessons/experiences


a good time for profound spiritual growth


please let me know of any significant events that happen during those Makemake transit periods. I think from 30 minutes of arc to exact, a significant event pertaining to Makemake could happen.

Raymond


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posted February 03, 2010 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thank you, Glaucus.

Do you think it could be a problem that Makemake`s aspect to my Sun will be a square inste4ad of a trine or something other harmonious?
Or does the square just emphasise the "event-character"?


Interestingly my younges`t brother`s birthday is on 6th march.

Anyway, I will let you know, if I am having spiritual insights or something happening to me.

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posted February 03, 2010 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Thank you, Glaucus.

Do you think it could be a problem that Makemake`s aspect to my Sun will be a square inste4ad of a trine or something other harmonious?
Or does the square just emphasise the "event-character"?"


Ever since I've delved into Uranian Astrology and Cosmobiology, I stopped believing in hard aspects manifesting into challenges and problems but as event-oriented aspects. I wouldn't worry about any problems arising in synchronicity with those transits. Also, these aspects could be about giving us what we need and not what we want. You're definitely going through profound spiritual growth,and that's awesome.
Maybe it might involve man with Sun, being the archetypal male.

I am liking transiting Sedna opposing my Venus which rules my 2nd and 9th houses. I will make the best of it. It doesn't have to be a bad thing. I had that transit when I became a member of Spiritual Life Center,and I don't regret that one bit. I still even have my membership card in my wallet.

In my Solar Return, I have Sedna in 7th house square Midheaven with 10 minutes of arc.

In a few weeks, Solar Arc Sedna will be oppose my Midheaven.


Very strong Sedna theme. It looks like a period of profound spiritual growth as well as time of practicing passion and raising awareness,helping people that might be victimized,abused in some way as well as my dealing with my own history of things and rising above it. A relationship that is profoundly spiritual seems like a possibility too.

Of course, I have my own strong Sedna natal influence of Sun oppose Sedna in Right Ascension and Moon sextile Sedna in ecliptic longitude and Right Ascension.


yeah..I think that you have some awesome transits!

I wouldn't worry about them at all.

Raymond

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posted February 03, 2010 09:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD,

You seem to have some interesting relationship opportunities this year.

Transiting Jupiter will be conjunct your Juno from March 26th to March 31st, using a 1 degree orb. That looks like a time to be optimistic about committed relationships. There is the possibility of expansion in those areas. That could be a sign of possible relationship Pretty cool transit!

Transiting dwarf planet candidate Varuna will be conjuncting your Vertex
start June 2, 2010
exact July 14, 2010
start December 22, 2010
exact Feb 12, 2011
start April 3, 2011
exact May 23, 2011

it could be a fated meeting,relationship that involves evolutionary intensified lessons,experiences....as well as matters involving judgment,justice

There is more

Secondary Progressed Venus oppose Natal Midheaven
starts June 20, 2010
exact June 15, 2011

Solar Arc Venus oppose Natal Midheaven starts on Dec 17th of this year
exact on June 15, 2011
ends on Dec 11, 2011

This indicates a period of love,relationships being important to you. It can be a time that you fall in love and be in a relationship.

I looked at transits during that Solar Arc picture

Transiting Pluto conjuncts Natal Venus
starts on Dec 25th and is exact on Jan 23, 2011.

Pluto will go retrograde
go back to conjuncting your Venus again on
May 18, 2011. It will be exact on June 30, 2011.

then go direct
go back to conjuncting your Venus again on
Oct 16, 2011. It will be exact on November 6, 2011.

This indicates that your love nature,value systems will be intensified,transformed. There could be the possibility of an intense love,relationship that changes your life.

Transiting Jupiter will square your Venus
starts on February 16,2011
exact on February 21, 2011

This could indicate expansion,optimism involving love nature,value systems. It could possibility of maybe a relationship that you're optimistic about.


Your Secondary Progressed/Solar Arc Venus oppose Natal Midheaven will be getting getting trigger transits too

Transiting Pluto square Natal Midheaven
start November 23, 2010
exact on December 23, 2010
start July 5, 2011
exact Aug 24, 2011

that indicates aim of life is more intense and transformed....with Venus, it involves love,value systems,relationships

Transiting Jupiter oppose Natal Midheaven from February 11 to 16, 2011

that indicates aim of life is more expansive and there can be optimism....with Venus,it involves love,value systems,relationships


There are some strong love,relationship opportunities.

I wish you great luck!


Raymond

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posted February 04, 2010 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for checking this for me, Raymond.


I am still confused about some of it.

"Transiting Jupiter will be conjunct your Juno from March 26th to March 31st, using a 1 degree orb."
Interestingly I have just had progressed Jupiter conjunct my Juno, too.

"Transiting dwarf planet candidate Varuna will be conjuncting your Vertex"
This looks very interesting. I think I should pay more attention to VAruna as it natally conjuncts my DESC.


"Secondary Progressed Venus oppose Natal Midheaven
starts June 20, 2010
exact June 15, 2011

Solar Arc Venus oppose Natal Midheaven starts on Dec 17th of this year
exact on June 15, 2011
ends on Dec 11, 2011"
I am confused. my pr as well as Solar Arc Venus are in Aquarius and my natal Midheaven is in Libra. Am I missing something here?


"Transiting Pluto conjuncts Natal Venus
starts on Dec 25th and is exact on Jan 23, 2011."
It seems like 2011 will be a Venus-Pluto-year. I am curious to what will happen. Of course it isnīt all that nice, cause my natal Pluto happens to be on 9 Libra, so after that I will have Tr Pluto square my natal Pluto.

But maybe that just means I can expect some events? Not necessarily bad ones? Probably tied to 12th house stuff, as Pluto rules my 12th house.


"There are some strong love,relationship opportunities."
I wouldn`t mind at all. But it seems that it focuses on next year, right?

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posted February 04, 2010 03:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Secondary Progressed Venus oppose Natal Midheaven
starts June 20, 2010
exact June 15, 2011

Solar Arc Venus oppose Natal Midheaven starts on Dec 17th of this year
exact on June 15, 2011
ends on Dec 11, 2011"
I am confused. my pr as well as Solar Arc Venus are in Aquarius and my natal Midheaven is in Libra. Am I missing something here?


sorry

Dyslexic moment. heh

I got them switched around

Secondary Progressed Midheaven oppose Natal Venus

Solar Arc Midheaven oppose Natal Venus


so transiting Pluto,Jupiter won't be triggering .....so scratch that.


I apologize for the mistakes.


actually there are opportunities for this year and next year. tr Varuna conjunct natal Vertex as well as the Solar Arc/Secondary Progressed Midheaven oppose Venus. Also transiting Jupiter conjunct Juno.


Raymond

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posted February 04, 2010 03:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Raymond,

"I got them switched around"
Happens to me a lot, too. I guess it has to do with having so many thought processes going on simultaneously.

Sometimes I feel like a circus-artist if I try to juggle all my thoughts and try to get them into a balance.

"Secondary Progressed Midheaven oppose Natal Venus

Solar Arc Midheaven oppose Natal Venus"
That sounds pretty cool actually.
do you think the secondary progressed Ascendant conjunct natal Venus plays a role in it, too?


"tr Varuna conjunct natal Vertex as well as the Solar Arc/Secondary Progressed Midheaven oppose Venus. Also transiting Jupiter conjunct Juno."
I only hope I will be able to identify the opportunities.

I also thought that secondary pr IC / Solar IC conjunct my Venus is the indication of me moving this year. Actually I am kind of moving back home, but in my own part of the house; I thought that was pretty fitting for IC. And Transit Uranus will be triggering IC,t oo. I guess things will not run JUST as we had planned. lol

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posted February 04, 2010 11:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
DD -

So making our yod even more similar, we both have Varuna cnj an axis.

I forgot to mention that I also have Quaor involved in that yod, since it's cnj Ixion.

I jotted down your data. I'll be back tomorrow to let you know what I think, but let's face it, it will be what you already think.

Perhaps why we so often look at things similarly: you have Mercury on your Moon/Uranus mp. I have Mercury cnj Uranus in the 1st, both square Moon.

Raymond discussing MakeMake pointed something out to me I hadn't realized yet. T. MakeMake is exactly cnj my n.Saturn, which means my Saturn is square your Sun. Don't worry. My Saturn is sweet, I swear. The worst it does is demand patience for astro interps.

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posted February 04, 2010 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Solar Arc Midheaven oppose Natal Venus"
That sounds pretty cool actually.
do you think the secondary progressed Ascendant conjunct natal Venus plays a role in it, too?"

I don't see why not.


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posted February 04, 2010 12:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane,

"So making our yod even more similar, we both have Varuna cnj an axis."
Yes. That is pretty interesting. Varuna seems to be an important theme to both of us.

"I forgot to mention that I also have Quaor involved in that yod, since it's cnj Ixion."

Oh sorry, I made a mistake. My Yod is actually with Quaoar.

Anyway, Ixion is conjunct Quaoar but may be too wide away. The Sextile to Venus and quinkunx to Varuna are 3 degrees.

So we still have a Yod at the same places, BUT probably yours has more Ixion-character, w hile mine has more Quaoar-character.

The differences would be interesting.

" jotted down your data. I'll be back tomorrow to let you know what I think, but let's face it, it will be what you already think."
I can`t wait for your results.
I donīt know what to think, but i was quite taken with the fact that my Mars and ASC are so tightly conjunct his Venus-Mars-mp. Yes, I am just a little superficial **** .

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"Perhaps why we so often look at things similarly: you have Mercury on your Moon/Uranus mp. I have Mercury cnj Uranus in the 1st, both square Moon."
Yes, that definitely looks similiarly, an unusual (Uranus) way of processing (Mercury) emotions (Moon)?
It also fits to my Aquarius-Moon I think.

"which means my Saturn is square your Sun. Don't worry. My Saturn is sweet, I swear. The worst it does is demand patience for astro interps."
Lol No I don`t worry.

actually I have noticed that in the synastry with people who are significant for me in some way, I usually have Saturn in conjunction,s quare or opposition with Sun or Moon (either way).
This is even true for the two musical actors who have played such a big role in my (internal) life.
In one case my Saturn is exactly square his Sun, in the other case his Saturn squares my Sun.


That makes me notice, in the synastry with Jude there is no hard aspects from Saturn to Sun or Moon. But his Saturn trines my Moon, and my SAturn conjuncts his SN. Since the lunar Node is calculated by Sun and Moon, maybe that still counts as significant Saturnian contact.


But even in friendships I have that.
A friend I have known for like 20 years, has her Moon exactly square my Saturn. My Moon is opposed by her Saturn (but by 5 degrees) and my Saturn sextiles her Sun.

Another friend I have known for almost 30 years, has her Saturn trine my Sun, but we don`t see each other regularly.

An email friend I have known for over 6 years now, and we are still writing about 2-3 emails per week to each other, has her Saturn (and Sun) conjunct my Moon. My Saturn conjuncts her ASC.

So, Saturn-aspects in friendship don`t scare me at all.

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DD -

Bad news. Something's come up & I won't have a chance to get my LL fix until Tues at the earliest. I'm sorry.

Which leaves me to ask: Saturn - the obstacle, or why I felt pulled to let you know what was up instead of just disappearing?

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Thanks for letting me know, Jane. I hope nothing bad has happened to you or your family, and it is all okay.

Well, as a matter of fact I think I am not supposed to learn anything about astrology of that particular synastry or others, until the concert tonight has passed.

I feel like whatever will be revealed to me (probably internal insights for myself) I am not supposed to know in advance (so I can rationalise them away).

Feels like the world is holding its breath at the moment (my world I mean) and will only move on, after tonight.

In a way it feels like the "last night of the world", but in a good way, pointing to a new beginning.

I can`t even explain why I am feeling the way I do.

But Tuesday will be very okay by me.

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I'm early!

Your Neptune jumps out to me as a key, complex planet for you.

How I got there...

1. You have Uranus = Saturn/Moon.

Making sure we're on the same page, with midpoints I understand the aspected planet as holding characteristics of the other two planets. Those other two planets influence its personality. Also, the aspected planet provides a concentrated point for those other two planets to express themselves.

So your Uranus holds your lunar/Saturnine energies. Uranus and Saturn working together? Instead of contradiction, I see complexity. How have you experienced that midpoint?

I would guess that your urges to break free, innovate and discover (Uranus) come from an inner commitment to a principle you hold deep within you (Moon) from which you will never stray (Saturn loyalty).

2. You have Saturn = Uranus/MC. This can also be written as Saturn = Uranus/IC.

Saturn behaving similarly to Uranus in mp's shows you have a real melding of Saturn/Uranus/lunar energies.

3. What's linking the lunar, Uranus, and Saturn? What do they have in common? Scorpio energy.

~Uranus in Scorpio
~Saturn in the 8th house
~Moon rules 8th house

Contributing further to your lunar-Scorpio feel:

~Your Moon = your Pluto/Sun and Pluto/Mercury mps, and forms a quincunx with your 8th house Saturn.

~Pluto is cnj your MC. We could flip that and say that Pluto opposes your IC. Also, our MC is "the other's" IC (4th house from the 7th).

4. You have Neptune = Uranus/Saturn.

Your Uranus and Saturn (and all they hold within them) have an outlet through Neptune. All that Scorpio energy wants to come out through Neptune.

Why? What does Neptune offer? How does it allow all of those parts of you to be transformed? (Neptune cnj NN.)

Neptune's the higher octave of Venus. You have Venus square Pluto.

When I looked at your data, my first thought was: that's a powerful chart! Saturn and Pluto up the wazoo. Plus Venus on your Pluto/MC mp, bringing an enchanting magnetism to all that strength.

So couple all that strength with a Venus-Pluto square, along with Neptune and its role as the final stop for all that Scorpio energy...and I get a sense that Neptune is purifying your power.

When I look at the synastry, I see that pattern again.

His ASC = your Neptune/NN
Your Sun = his Neptune/NN

Power-love issues are being transcended.

There is much in the synastry that shows a delightful, joyous love PLUS a deeply emotional attachment. All of that is being experienced through Neptune and the lessons it has about unconditional, non-possessive love.

Yes? No? Maybe?

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