posted February 09, 2010 11:18 AM            

Sure! I'll need you to list the same info DD did:

1. Your midpoint aspects. (1 deg 00 minute orb; 1 deg 30 minute orb if Sun, Moon, Asc, or MC are involved).

2. Your natal hard aspects. (4 deg orb for cnj's/opp's; 3 deg orb for squares.)

For both groups, list only these aspects: cnj, square, and opposition.

3. You don't have to, but it helps a lot to see your chart. So if you don't mind sharing it, post it here or give your birth info.

posted February 10, 2010 11:41 AM            

sorry it is later than I thought it would be, but somehow I got distracted by my job and some other topics on here.

I also tried to wrap my head around, how on earth you found that pattern. You made my head spinning. Wow! A great way to work with midpoints, I am beyond impressed!

"Making sure we're on the same page, with midpoints I understand the aspected planet as holding characteristics of the other two planets. Those other two planets influence its personality. Also, the aspected planet provides a concentrated point for those other two planets to express themselves."
So according to this my uranus would hold a combination of Moon and Saturn?
And at the same time Uranus gives my Moon and Saturn a doorway to express themselves, which sounds very complicated, as they are such different energies.

BTW how do you see it in synastry?
Example:
ASC = Venus / Mars

I always thought that a particular trait of one person (ASC) would trigger the planets, involved in the midpoint picture of the other person (Venus / Mars), and that would feel like a natal or even synastric VEnus-Mars-aspect, just only within one person.
Do you know what I mean? And do you agree or disagree?

"Instead of contradiction, I see complexity. How have you experienced that midpoint? "
As a complex contradiction.
But seriously, I think there is a very strong tension between a mindoriented openness, independence and unconventionality on the one side, and on the other side a very conservative streak, especially when it comes to emotions, even selfrestrictive at times.
There is also this urge of being independent and free fighting with this urge of belonging somewhere or to someone.

"I would guess that your urges to break free, innovate and discover (Uranus) come from an inner commitment to a principle you hold deep within you (Moon) from which you will never stray (Saturn loyalty)."
Well, that sounds better. And absolutely true.
Yes, my inner commitment to a principle, or to my truth, makes me sometimes very uncompromising and even unable to commit, at least as long as the person I want to commit to, isn`t in harmony with my inner principle.

When you found the first midpoint, how did you proceed?
Did you actively search for midpoint configurations, that included similiar or same planets?

posted February 10, 2010 11:42 AM            

It seems like I have all "difficult" energies somehow interconnected, Saturn, Uranus, Neptune and Pluto with the most sensitive spot in every chart, the Moon. *sighs* Complex, did you say?
Nice euphemism, Jane!

"Your Uranus and Saturn (and all they hold within them) have an outlet through Neptune. All that Scorpio energy wants to come out through Neptune."
So the passion and intensity that is there on the core of it all (Scorpio) will find a much gentler more compassionate outlet through Neptune?

"I looked at your data, my first thought was: that's a powerful chart!"
Thanks.

Or should I rather say: Poor me.
I could have had it easier. But then I probably wouldn´t want to. An easy internal life - how dull and boring!

"Plus Venus on your Pluto/MC mp, bringing an enchanting magnetism to all that strength. "
I am still waiting for my magnetism to wake up and enchant the people around me. lol

"His ASC = your Neptune/NN
Your Sun = his Neptune/NN"
Wow, I did not see that before!

"All of that is being experienced through Neptune and the lessons it has about unconditional, non-possessive love."
What would be better to "train" that unconditional, non possessive love, than admiring from afar?

posted February 11, 2010 12:07 PM            

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I am still waiting for my magnetism to wake up and enchant the people around me. lol

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Well, you enchanted me!

posted February 11, 2010 12:30 PM            

What you explained about the parts reaching in; it`s similiar to how I interprete houseruler-aspects. I start somewhere and then the aspects are leading me somewhere else to a part, which also contributes to the combination.

Example:
If I see the ruler of 7th house in 11th house, I will automatically turn to the 11th house, looking at the ruler of 11th house and its aspects, and if there are planets in the 11th house, I will look at their rulerships, too, and of course which houses they connect with the 11th house through the aspects.

Is it something like that? Or did I misunderstand you now?

Actually I think my best interpretations happen, if I am doing them "in the going", without time for preparation - did I mention I get easily bored?