posted February 02, 2010 04:45 PM         

Ven: 21 sag 04'24" to sat: 23 Pis 00' 21" and uranus: 24 vir 09' 58" "

yeah....all those aspects are under the 5 degree maximum orb that I use.
It also forms a midpoint picture with Venus conjunct or opposite the Saturn/Uranus midpoint.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 03, 2010 07:46 PM         

Saturn/Jupiter opposition with Uranus involved too making it a double nuclear clash.

your jupiter oppose his saturn and quincunx his uranus.

Personally, i'd run at that point.

posted February 03, 2010 07:51 PM         

Is there anyone more up to par when it comes to magi astrology?

posted February 03, 2010 07:57 PM         

Romantic Super Linkages involve 3 PLANETS with one linkage involving chiron. Now tell me how many of those we have? As long as chiron forms a LINKAGE (conj,trine, quincunx) with another planet, the third planet can be ANY aspect to form the super linkage.

And then tell me how many clashes we have?

posted February 03, 2010 08:07 PM         

What about his feelings for you? Does he have deep and genuine feelings for you?

"And, I would rather have this type of love with someone, than a predictable relationship with someone who offers less interest to my heart. "

Does he have this type of love with you? Does he love you? I'd think that what he feels is just as important as what you feel.

You already said the following:

"I'd like to think he did, but he never really told me he loved me. However, when I would try so hard to express my feelings for him, he would start to get withdrawn and find ways to argue about why he didnt/doesnt want a relationship. One was because he is a persian/jew. lol"

First of all, you said that he never really told you that he loves you. Second, you told me that he would start to get withdrawn and find ways to argue about about why he didn't/doesn't want a relationship and even bringing up an ethnic excuse about it. I don't know about you, but it doesn't seem that the love is mutual. I'd feel that love is something that is freely given with no reservations as well as mutual with a deep concern,regard for each other's feelings. This guy is pretty much pulling away from you and making excuses about why he shouldn't be in a relationship. He doesn't seem to be concerned and have regard for your feelings.

It seems more like you have a desire coupled with attachment instead of love.

If he keeps on not telling you that he loves you and keeps on giving arguments about why he doesn't want a relationship including the ethnic excuses, you're better off moving on and being with somebody else.

If it's meant to be, it will happen. If not, there is somebody else that is much better for you.

You could just confront him, telling him how you feel and ask him if he feels the same way. If he responds positively, that's great. If he doesn't, well..at least you know where you stand and you can make the decision to move on.

They say that if you really love somebody, let him/her go.

I don't buy into the Magi Astrology stuff. Also conjunctions aren't necessarily easy aspects, especially with objects that orbit Saturn like Chiron does. They can go either way. If they are involved in t-squares, they are more likely to be very challenging.

Just because there are Magi Romantic Super Linkages doesn't necessarily mean that there is love and that a relationship is going to happen. There are so many factors like that t-square. Of course, free will is the ultimate factor. You have the free will to pursue a relationship with him, but he also has the free will to not pursue a relationship with you.

Even Magi Society talks about free will is a factor in whether a relationship works or not.

I am starting to wonder maybe some people here made a good point about checking romantic synastry only after there is a relationship that already exists.

Sometimes, I feel that relationship astrology give people false hope for a relationship,love that might never happen, especially if the object of the person's attraction doesn't have the same desire as he or she does.

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 03, 2010 08:08 PM         

I'm not your Magi Astrologer... i expect a little respect here!!!

Linkages are not just 3 planets involving Chiron. lol

posted February 04, 2010 03:16 AM         

"Sometimes, I feel that relationship astrology give people false hope for a relationship,love that might never happen"
I agree. But It hink the reason for that is, that people with rose coloured glasses tend to focus on the positive aspects, instead of trying to get a view on the whole.

posted February 04, 2010 03:27 AM         

I agree

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 04, 2010 04:04 AM         

I have seen too many cases when their system failed. Plus they don´t even have their astronomy right. Recently they called Juno and Sappho planets; they have their mythology wrong,t oo, and noone has ever seen anything of their research (except for a small circle of "Initiated" I guess).
Personally I have problems with their patronizing style as well as their mysoginistic views (women are always potrayed either as powerhungry ****** or powerless victims).

But all of that is more philosophical than pragmatic astrology. The biggest problem in their system is that it does not work. I have seen relationships function wonderfully with Heartbreak- and nuclear clashes (btw I have even come across a site, in which the author claims that Jupiter-Saturn-aspects, mostly hard ones, are NEEDED for a relationship to sustain; I don´t buy that either).
I have seen longstanding faithful marriages with an excess of Juno-linkages and aspects.
Some of their praised linkages are generational ones like Chiron-Pluto or Chiron-Neptune.

:shrugs: So I personally take what they say with more than a grain of salt, and some of the things they post, just sound absolutely ridiculous to me (like their view on Ceres, Juno and Sappho).

posted February 04, 2010 04:20 AM         

I am with you.

also Chiron is not a planet. It's just a centaur. It's one of over 60 centaurs.

over 12 centaurs have names. Magi Society hasn't even mentioned any of those centaur objects, especially Chariklo named after Chiron's wife.

I couldn't believe how they referred to Sedna as being evil. Good grief! That's when I decided to completely rid myself of Magi Astrology because I feel that they just pull up anything from their butts and expect people to take it for gospel.

SYMBOLISMS OF SEDNA

Sedna is the destroyer.

That is why we refer to Sedna as the Hammer of Thor.

Sedna destroys everything in its path. Saturn is also destructive but Sedna is actually more harmful than Saturn is, and Sedna has more destructive power than Saturn does.

This is a monumental discovery!

When Saturn knocks us down, we can usually get back up. If Sedna knocks us down, it follows up by pounding us into the ground – like a pile driver. Sedna is nasty and mean and possesses the instinct of a bloodthirsty killer. Sedna does not want us to be able to get back up after it knocks us down.

Sedna is symbolic of corruption, lies, and immorality of all kinds. Sedna is ruler of economic and social disasters and upheavals, and moral decay.

Sedna represents ILL-GOTTEN gains, wealth stolen from others, profits made illegally or unethically, or at the expense of others. Sedna also represents wealth accumulated from taking advantage of the weaknesses of others.

Sedna is a moral cancer within our society; Sedna seeks to destroy our moral fiber and our very soul.

In business matters, a corporation with strong Sedna aspects is essentially a vulture and will prey on customers who are morally weak, and sell products that corrupt our souls. Sedna promotes violence, horror and terror. (For example, Sedna aspects are plentiful in companies selling pornography and violent video games.)

Sedna is evil.

A Sedna business will leave its customers in the gutter after it has taken all their money and stripped them of self-dignity. (Drug dealers have lots of Sedna aspects in their birth charts.)

Sedna symbolizes drugs and prostitutes, products that promote violence and or emotionless sex.

Sedna is symbolic of anything that is anti-Christian. More than anything else, Sedna hates Christ and Christians.

Sedna has no conscience whatsoever.

“Good transits” by Sedna can bring wealth to the person having them. BUT whenever Sedna helps someone grab the loot, Sedna also corrupts the souls of the persons who are making the money, by making them totally selfish and greedy beyond comprehension. This attribute of Sedna is one reason there is truth to the old adage that money corrupts.

Sedna is ruler of corrupt money.

Sedna is so insidious that it helps nobody. During so-called “good transits” by Sedna, a person will make money – but the profits will corrupt the person’s soul to the very core. And then Sedna will eat the person alive.

Bad transits by Sedna are the worst transits you can have when it comes to both your money and soul. One set of bad Sedna transits can cut our personal net worth in half or more. But even worse, bad Sedna transits can make us completely lose our moral compass, making us willing to do anything, even break laws and hurt others, in order to make up our losses.

Compared to Sedna, Saturn is almost tolerable.

Saturn is still the bad planet. But Sedna is the really bad planet and intrinsically evil.

[On our websites, the Magi Society will use the term “Hammer of Thor” or just “Thor” to refer to Sedna because the terms are so fitting.]
http://www.magiastrology.com/Hammer_of_Thor_part1.htm

What about the other big transneptunians?

What would they say about Eris,Makemake,Haumea,Orcus,Quaoar,Varuna,Ixion as well as Huya and Chaos?

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 04, 2010 04:31 AM         

And Lara,

" Well you have venus/saturn square right there in your post above here! "

posted February 04, 2010 04:33 AM         

I read what they wrote about Ceres and Sappho

" * Sappho was exactly parallel to Ceres. Here we go again – another EXACT aspect and therefore another super powerful one. What does this one mean? We have explained several times on this website that Ceres is the “Little godfather of business” – but more importantly, in our Members Only Site we revealed that Ceres is the most materialistic planet. We pointed out that Madonna was born with Ceres parallel Sun and she takes pride in being the MATERIAL girl. Madonna has also admitted that she has NEVER been faithful to any man in her life. This is partly because Ceres is also the most selfish planet – which makes sense because materialistic people are selfish people. Therefore, the Sappho parallel Ceres in the chart of the birth control pill symbolizes Extreme Selfish Behavior, which of course is what infidelity usually is. The cheaters usually do not care who they hurt; they only care about themselves."
http://www.magiastrology.com/why%20Tiger%20Woods%20is%20a%20serial%20cheater.htm

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
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posted February 04, 2010 04:42 AM         

same here

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"

posted February 04, 2010 12:40 PM         

Intresting information about sedna. I got throught below axpects in my life. I think no one should be afraid of Sedna. I've survived.

T Sedna 10,23 Square my SUN/AC 10,47/10,42 at the day my daughter been born.

T Sedna square destinn/psyche/DC/BML

T Sedna 7,09 trine N merk 7,33/uranus 8,33(house7 ruler), The day my son been born.

T Sedna opp nept was 0,35 sep, the day when I moved and divorced from my exhusband 1998

T Sedna trine my N uranus (house 7 ruler)0,10 applaying The day my husband nr 2 and I moved togheter.

T Sedna opp juno/pallas

T Sedna conj N osiris/DNA/DR Sun/AC

SA sedna conj jupiter/varuna/algol/helena/phila from 1988-1993. My daughters was born 1988 and it was a new life for me and my exhusband. We build a house to us. It was a nice family life. My exhusband and I worked hard and it was our best time togheter except one or two crises.

SA Sedna 6,04 conj N moon 6,49/nessus 5,30, exact on the day my exhusband died

SA Sedna conj DR merk 6,30/uran 7,05, exact on the day.

SA Sedna conj DR pluto for in 2007-2008= nothing special dramatic

SA Sedna 7,15 square my N merk 7,55,N uran 8,33 =on the day I took my daughter and moved 400 kilometre away.
still conj to my DR merk/uran in gemini,

SA Sedna square my N pluto 1 years ago and nothing special dramatic.

posted February 04, 2010 01:00 PM         

Did he tell you that he is in love with you?
Did he tell you that he loves you?

Raymond

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"Nothing matters absolutely;
the truth is it only matters relatively"