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Topic: Am I Being Bullied Into A Relationship?
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vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 897 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted February 15, 2010 04:41 PM
CPN, quote: if i say no and someone is still pressuring me to do anything, i go from no, to, oh hell no in less than 10 seconds.
I'm exactly the same! quote: if you think about it, you really don't owe anyone anything, not even a reason
I think you owe them some amount of politeness and tact when you say "no" the first time. I wouldn't be harsh towards someone if it's unwarranted. But in this case it's clearly warranted. quote: practice the uncomfortable long silence. sometimes that works with those types too. after the no has been said and the conversation is still why not come on, just long uncomfortable silence on your end can really get the point across, count the seconds, and maybe the minutes, and then,,,the obligitory, uhm...yes, i'm still here...uh, i already gave you my answer.
lol I've done this. This works really well. I love this one. IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 678 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 15, 2010 10:28 PM
Thank you all so much for your responses-- both genuine and rude.Well, I did meet with him to have coffee. Long story short, i told him friendship was the only thing i could offer him. I asserted myself. I don't know who said this, but there was a comment that if he can't respect my boundaries i don't need a friend like that-- Agreed. I was thinking exactly that on my walk to Starbucks. And that's where i'm at now. So sincerely, thank you for your encouragement. Knowflakes are the best family. IP: Logged |
Geocosmic* Valentine Knowflake Posts: 405 From: New York, NY Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 15, 2010 10:48 PM
Good for you, Meta-4, for being assertive. I'm glad you proved me wrong, too. You were able to be assertive in person.I hope you're doing alright after your meeting. It's not always easy to do what you did. Have a good night. Geocosmic Valentine IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 678 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 15, 2010 11:01 PM
Dearest Geo, You're so empowering. You made me feel like a million bucks. I did prove you wrong, but don't think that I was ignoring your advice. I just figured that not meeting in person and being frank wouldn't really fix the problem (or make me feel better.) Thank you for your well wishes. You have an exxxxxcellent evening, ma cherie! IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 897 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted February 16, 2010 03:11 AM
I'm so happy you did this Meta! I was worried Geo would be right, but I'm very glad she wasn't. Props for getting rid of him. Ding! Dong! The witch is gone! lol Hopefully he *stays* gone. IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 1325 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 16, 2010 03:35 AM
Thumbs up for being assertive!But...He will try again. He has 4 planets in Aries and you are a very attractive girl. So continue being strong and assertive.
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meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 678 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 16, 2010 09:51 AM
Thanks iQ.He told me he will fight (for me) but he doesn't realize that I have Mars in Taurus! My hooves are planted! IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 678 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 16, 2010 10:21 AM
vapor,You are my protector. You take such sincere care of me! Could I possibly have your birth info? I'd like to run some charts, possibly take a peek at our synastry. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 897 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted February 16, 2010 04:45 PM
awww Thank you meta! I hope I do Here is my chart - with some asteroids: I can email you my birth data, if you like. I think we have some trines with your Sun and my Sun/Saturn.. and your Cancer stuff and my Pisces stuff. I can't remember much else! Lately I've been using Cancer Asc for my chart.. but here's the story: quote: My Ascendant is complicated - My mom is convinced I was born at 10:15 am - she says she saw the clock in the delivery room. We've had arguments about this lol At this time my asc would be Gemini 29'59.. I contacted the hospital and the person I spoke to agreed to the time. As it turns out, when I visited the hospital in person and asked for records, they had 10:20 am as the time. It's a touch more frustrating because Venus also changes signs in this 5 minute time-frame.. from 29'59 Aries at 10:15 to 00'02 Taurus at 10:20. My North Node is at 00'06 Taurus.
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meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 678 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 16, 2010 06:05 PM
vapor,I'll give you my email address when we're both on, so I can delete it as soon as you take it down. Or if you feel comfortable you can post yours. Very excited!! IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 897 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted February 17, 2010 03:20 AM
Hey! You can email me here: vapor_lash@live.com I'm really curious about the synastry! IP: Logged |
DiandraReborn25 Knowflake Posts: 1141 From: Portugal Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 17, 2010 11:52 AM
i agree with IQ,Meta.that man will not give up. usually it is hard for them not to get what they want. keep your distance,and show him you´re a strong woman with convictions. if you give him a finger,he will want the whole arm,so do not give him anything to make him think you´re a win of his. IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 678 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 17, 2010 10:43 PM
Diandra,Thank you for the advice. I shall prepare for battle! Vapor, Our synastry doesn't look very fulfilling for you... IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 897 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted February 18, 2010 04:30 AM
s'ok.. I feel very fulfilled LOL I think I prefer our composite.. Lookit that Gemini stellium.. We can talk anyone's ear off! But there are good things in the synastry. It's mainly trines & sextiles.. The opposition planets like Jup-Merc.. and Moon-Venus: They're pfffffffffffffft oppositions lol The Venus-Jup square is the same.. They're not hardcore hehe IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 1325 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 18, 2010 06:17 AM
Very uplifting to see the VESTA of two hottie's composite conjunct my Ascendant, that too in 13 Aries....IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 1325 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 18, 2010 06:32 AM
Hi Meta_4, Saw your question, I think we should discuss that here itself.Uranus in 5th cannot be the only cause, otherwise millions of ladies will be chased continuously for 7 years! Willing this pursuit to stop is also not the right thing to do, because it implies that you are wishing to lose your attractiveness. Out of the Box Solution: Wear a fake diamond ring, and pretend your husband is a Marine or working in Haiti's reconstruction. Astrologically, you must check transits to Draconic chart to make sure nothing karmic is going on here. If we had pursued others like crazy in a past life, then at some stage we will get chased too. The awareness of this alone will help minimize the pursuits.
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Agent_009 Knowflake Posts: 214 From: LA & Vancity Registered: May 2009
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posted February 18, 2010 06:44 AM
META,I was just gonna say...will for it to stop, but IQ just said otherwise lol. IQ, [Willing this pursuit to stop is also not the right thing to do, because it implies that you are wishing to lose your attractiveness.] -That hasnt really worked for me, (even with guys I dont have karmic links with). I've even purposely scrubbed out to look like crap...but hey at least it goes to show personality still shines the most. [Out of the Box Solution: Wear a fake diamond ring] -Yup, been there done that. I find this totally backfires especially with married doods. They tend to say, "GREAT, I have a wife too! so let's just have some fun as that was my only intention." IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 678 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 18, 2010 11:23 AM
iQ (you flirt you!),Transit Sun, Neptune, Chiron, Jupiter and Venus are conjuncting my Drac Uranus, Neptune and Saturn? That doesn't sound like it should be causing all of this hubbub. Transit Saturn is widely conjunct my Drac Sun, and Transit Pluto is widely opp my Drac Mars? I just don't know.. I think I'm going to just claim lesbian-hood for the next.. however long... Although Koiflower did tell me that if i visualize attracting a certain type of partner then that's the type of partner i will find? BAH! I don't knowwwwww! Agent, So what do you do to shew them off then? IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 678 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 18, 2010 11:25 AM
vapor,Venus square Mars-- are we going to be nasty Fire lov-ahs?!?! IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 1325 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 18, 2010 01:12 PM
Did you check if Draconic Aphrodite (1388) is making an aspect to a Transiting Planet? Or maybe there is a hard transit to Natal Aphrodite?IP: Logged |
jane Knowflake Posts: 501 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted February 18, 2010 02:13 PM
meta -He may be a quad Aries, but you're a Scorpio Rising with a Taurus Mars. He'll be learning conviction from you. If this has been a recurring problem, I wonder if Neptune is the culprit. What Neptune aspects do you have natally? I'd also suggest you check out Persephone (399): primarily its natal placement, but also transits to and from it and synastry aspects. IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 678 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 18, 2010 03:45 PM
iQ & jane,Rather than write all the placements out i'm just going to post my natal/transits: My Drac Aphrodite is 3 degrees Scorpio, so no major transits are hitting it. IP: Logged |
meta_4 Knowflake Posts: 678 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 18, 2010 03:49 PM
Transit Venus opp Natal Aphrodite? Tr Retro Mars conjunct Persephone?jane, This hasn't always been a problem, i don't think? Well, at least it hasn't been this bad before! Literally i feel like i'm being trapped by guys wanting a relationship from me. And i asked iQ if there was anything i could do to prohibit this from continuing.. and he said not really, lol! IP: Logged |
Agent_009 Knowflake Posts: 214 From: LA & Vancity Registered: May 2009
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posted February 18, 2010 06:38 PM
Meta, [So what do you do to shew them off then?]- Usually on the job front, with people who have influence over my career...I find that nothing really works honestly, but you calling it quits right before you know your about to be fired *shrug*. For those it's more about power & control, forcing you into submission. It's just games & fun for them regardless of them or you being married/involved. Sex is just sex cuz they usually dont want anything more from you anyways. Mind you this isnt just with the film industry. When I was 18, working a regular $9/hr job. I had a decently goodlooking blond, blue-eyed 42yr old boss. Well he ended up "letting me go," cuz I didnt want to get involved romantically. =P With guys outside of work or who have no influence over my career... I tend to avoid them, but not in an @$$hole kinda way...but because I just dont want to lead them on. Some guys just dont get it (the really obsessed over you types). I always tell them straight up that I'm just not feeling it, or why I cant be with them (if I am feel'n it). As far as I'm concerned I've done my job instead of totally ignoring without giving them a reason. Usually normal guys will get it and back off. Those are the ones I end up as acquaintance or even good friends with cuz I didnt have to ignore. I've experienced some cases where the guys were unrelenting crazies. I use the good old, "I'm moving halfway across the country or out of country," excuse. Only once I was busted, running into the guy lol,...but made a fantastic save saying I was just back visiting. You shouldnt feel bad about whether or not you could still be friends. As you get older you just realize it's impossible to please everyone or stay as friends. If he has good intentions towards you, he'll still be there after sometime. IP: Logged |
iQ Knowflake Posts: 1325 From: Chennai, India Registered: Apr 2009
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posted February 18, 2010 11:44 PM
Retrograde Mars is squaring Draconic Aphrodite exact.As per mathematical astrology, The Natal Chart is radiating very strong sexuality: Scorpio Asc Pluto in first, very close to Asc Mars in Taurus Sun T-Square Pluto-Mars Mercury conj Aphrodite exact in 10th, biggest culprit. You may be thinking attractively, and aggressively abou say career, but the chaser type male misunderstands this to be you thinking of attracting him mentally, whilst saying no verbally. Karmic Stuff: Natal has a very dangerous aspect, Saturn exactly opposing Venus-Chiron. I have a case where the native was traumatized in childhood, but it was a different house. Now, this aspect is being exactly conjunct by Transit North Node, meaning South Node or Past Life events/people are actively "Chironing" your Venus. Which is why I am saying not to make yourself wish you were unattractive because that would manifest as a very negative and hurtful event. Tr Uranus in 5th is not the issue, Tr Uranus in 5th conjunct Natal KARMA along with NN opp Venus is another problem. Mars becoming direct will alleviate plenty of problems. APHRODITE moving into 8th will attract more karmic chasers though, but this will stop once Aphrodite reaches 9th. [Maybe a European Aristocrat or Brazilian Billionaire will chase you at that time but they are thoroughbreds and know how to respect a lady... ] About other ideas, Agent has mentioned a good idea about the excuse of moving to another city. A psychological idea is about radiating an Aura of being more high maintenance than a Kim Kardashian and more snobbish than a Paris Hilton. This should chicken out more than 90% of the chasing crowd. You are into acting my dear, and take this like a challenging project. Sample Ego Devastators for Chasing Men: "What? You earn just 60,000 a year at 29? Even my Taiwanese pen pal in Shanghai makes more than that and he is just 26! So just how did you become so incompetent?" "I must know your degree, am very curious abou academics. Did you maintain A Grade throughout? No? Dont you want to be doing MBA in Stanford? Are you weak in Math or scared to take GMAT ? What a turn off!!!" "I was thinking about my dream guy, the day he will get me a nice 20 Carat ring to celebrate friendship...". The '20 Carat' phrase should make him run at 20 meters per second....
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