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posted February 22, 2010 05:35 PM         

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I guess all my 12th house stellium trines to my 5th jupiter saves me

dinobleu - i know! Me too... i had to break the news to my mother that her mother had died and she didn't cry once.

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posted February 22, 2010 05:43 PM         

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Intresting with house 12. This is the first time in my life I've a complete packed house 12 in lunar return (placidus). For me it will be so intresting to se how it works out.(If it's not works out as an house 12 it be possible to change my house system) My lunarreturn from 22/2..

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posted February 22, 2010 05:43 PM         

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Oh boy, i have a yod pointing at my 12th stellium/AC.
Does that mean i'm focused on the 12th house?

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posted February 22, 2010 05:46 PM         

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I define the soul by things we deal with alone.

The way we feel alone, our manners when we are alone. When we sleep we are with our soul 100%.

Our soul is what lies inside of us, somethings are hidden some aren't so much. But overall, our soul isn't readily there for everyone to see.

Hence the 12th house being our soul.

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posted February 22, 2010 05:54 PM         

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Well i'm way too soulful for most people so that figures lol

I find superficial people impossible to get on with... they literally lose me at hello. I do spend a lot of time alone but i love it. I am happy to be alone and find a full on relationship difficult to get away from sometimes.

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posted February 22, 2010 06:07 PM         

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Lara,

I was alone during that transit but hated it.

As I said, there is an ethereal beauty to 12th house placements (positive aspects). One that can't be found in any other house. Spending time alone is your soul growth; your purpose.

Quite beautiful if you ask me

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posted February 22, 2010 06:14 PM         

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im a walking complexity hihihih

although having venus mars and sun in the 11th,i have mercury in my 12H,ruled by Virgo ( Placidus).

merc is at 0Libra and makes me very hard to be understood by others.

i appear secretive and when i comunicate,people hear someting complete oposite of what i wanted to say...!!it is a very lonely aspect....

to worse things i must say that comunication is THE KEY fr me as i have my Node in Gem in the 9th...even when i dont want it...i am alone with my own Soul...Buahhh

Raspberri

i understand about saturn going in the 12th...mine is now cj my ASc going back and forth , bacj and forth...

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posted February 22, 2010 06:16 PM         

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Lara,
What if your 12th house is empty? Mine is empty, with Scorpio on the cusp, intercepted with Sag....my Sag Ascendant.

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posted February 22, 2010 06:19 PM         

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Rasberri, yeah that sucks.

I married a loser as saturn transited my 12th and his malicious ways were definitely hidden from me. I woke up one morning and thought "how on earth did i get here, with him?"
LOL

VIG - i have no idea.. i don't know anything about the 12th

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posted February 22, 2010 06:26 PM         

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Lol Lara. HAHAHA

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posted February 22, 2010 06:50 PM         

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Uranus & Pluto in my 12th house

Uranus conjunction Pluto orb +0°29'
Mars square Pluto orb +1°47'
Neptune sextile Pluto orb +1°29'
Saturn opposite Pluto orb -7°08'
Venus square Pluto orb +6°21'

Mars square Uranus orb +1°17'
Uranus sextile Neptune orb +1°00'
Saturn opposite Uranus orb -7°37'
Venus square Uranus orb +5°51'

I feel these placements provide me with the focus to deal with the karmic duality of lessons encountered and lessons learn both good and bad.

Basically it’s up to me to either rise from ashes or wallow in sorrow knowing that there is a lesson to be learned.

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posted February 22, 2010 06:56 PM         

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Thank you (((Raspberri))))) Ami

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posted February 22, 2010 07:03 PM         

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Basically it’s up to me to either rise from ashes or wallow in sorrow knowing that there is a lesson to be learned.

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yup.

I guess it depends on what your 12th sign is. My Aries in 12th probably helps me to keep on crusading onwards and upwards.

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posted February 22, 2010 07:05 PM         

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I have a packed 12th house and Im still not seeing its benefits. I do work in a hospital though.

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posted February 22, 2010 07:16 PM         

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Lara

12th house is Virgo.

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posted February 22, 2010 09:35 PM         

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Wow, Lara, congratulations on finding out your true Ascendant. I haven't been following all the posts recently, been sorta skipping around, so I'm not aware of how it all unfolded, but if GCV had a hand in it, I'm sure it was done with great skill.

I only have Mars in my 12th house. It takes a lot to make me express my irritation. I generally tend to avoid casual everyday confrontations, the kind I see other people having on a regular basis. I try to avoid unpleasant people. Just walk away. But when someone has been badgering me (or been abusive) repeatedly, then one day I bust out in a terrifying display of temper! When it starts coming out, I have very little control over it. I literally shake. The outcome is generally worse than if I had just let out my irritation initially in short bursts. I usually end up alienating people. Or they look at me like they're surprised I'm capable of that kind of display.

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posted February 22, 2010 09:36 PM         

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DR25...I also have a 12th house Mercury in Scorpio...so I understand about being misunderstood or appearing to be secretive to others. It's always been a challenge...having 12th house Mars doesn't help either.

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posted February 22, 2010 09:47 PM         

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I have Sagittarius as my 12th house ruled by Jupiter in the 8th.

I take the phrase, "every cloud as a silver lining" to a whole new meaning.

I have Eros in my 12th house..*hears a record screeching*..>.>;..

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posted February 22, 2010 11:02 PM         

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I have venus in 12th sitting there pretending to be innocent! Its at 29 degree leo thinking its special...

Lara,

How did you rectify your chat? Have you looked at solar arcs as well? ... Just curious

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posted February 23, 2010 04:16 AM         

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Wow, I've just spent the last hour checking out the link you posted up Lara and its got some pretty interesting content I find myself identifying with. If anyone else has any links with good information like, plz let me know!

Btw Lara, even tho I dont have anything particularly interesting happening in my 12H, its just ruled by Pisces *sighhh*, I do have someone's Venus & Mars in there and its definitely been a slow-burning, karmic relationship driven by a force much bigger than myself, no matter how many times I've denied it.

12th House stuff is pretty intense, even more than 8th house i reckon

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posted February 23, 2010 08:12 AM         

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Saturn in Pisces in 12th, yipee. NOT.

Actually, this may be my saving grace, cause I'm here, but I'm not really here (pinches self to check) know what I mean?

And, also, this placement always makes everything seem fated. Like, I don't just meet people and know them, and have them drift in and out of my life, it seems like EVERY single person I meet and get close to plays a specific role in my life for the long term, only I cannot actually see what it is, until it's already happened.

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posted February 23, 2010 02:58 PM         

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12th House stuff is pretty intense, even more than 8th house i reckon

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Great...my Sun is in the 8th House and Moon in the 12th...is this why I've always been called an old-soul? And been a very intense person? Lol

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posted February 23, 2010 03:03 PM         

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How does moon in the 12th house feel, Dinobleu?
I have sun,moon and Mercury in 8th.
I think I always want to know what is behind surface things cuz of the 8th house placements. I was wondering if it is hard for you to know WHAT you are feeling cuz of the 12th house moon. Do you feel your feelings are hidden from you?
Thanks so much Ami

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posted February 23, 2010 03:13 PM         

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interesting lara: your MC is conjunct my 12th house cusp!!

"It's a punishment house to me. Any planet that falls there disappears in my opinion, and the owner is the only one aware of it's hidden energies"

i can see how raspberri would feel this way if she is just finishing saturn tr thru 12th! that transit certainly feels like a punishment as i recall.

but i have JUPITER in 12 natally and MOON in pisces - a vague mutual reception going on there tho out of aspect - and i LOVE the 12th. it took me years to FIND it, lol, but apart from when saturn was trawling through there and pluto squaring my sun and natal pluto at the same time, i think its like wonderland....

and i often think that far from one's self being the only one who gets their 12th house stuff, it is OTHER PEOPLE who can see it while we are often unconscious of what is in the basement, so to speak. it is definitely worth digging into!

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posted February 23, 2010 03:13 PM         

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AND you live in Sedona!!!

My favourite spiritual place in the entire world LOL

Yes, yes, yes... you must be an old soul to live there. Were you born there Dinobleue?

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