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Topic: Natal Aspects for being unattractive?
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amowls*
Knowflake Posts: 1013
From: richmond va
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 11, 2010 03:19 PM
 
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I dont believe a Natal Chart can be blamed for looking basically unattractive [
unless there is an exact Saturn or Pluto squared APHRODITE aspect
I have Aphrodite exactly square Saturn :[ I consider myself attractive. I mean, I get hit on (last night for instance a dude sitting next to me at a bar was trying real hard lol... I actually ran his chart and we have Moon conjunct Moon BUT ENOUGH ABOUT THAT). Perhaps there are other mitigating factors, like Aphrodite is also exactly conjunct my Venus which is exalted and Saturn is also exactly conjunct my Uranus. IP: Logged |
Lonake
Knowflake Posts: 877
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 11, 2010 07:59 PM
Yea, amowls is pretty.
The reality pretty much is that everyone has someone who thinks they're attractive and another who disagrees.And whoever posted about not being as good looking as their sister: there's always going to be someone better looking than you. That's the way it is for everybody. IP: Logged |
vertiver
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Registered: May 2009
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posted March 11, 2010 08:14 PM
And your sister may be more attractive than you on the surface, but she might also be less ambitious or go for the low hanging fruit as far as the type of suitors she attracts. Sorry this is sorta a personal reference. You got to remember that white, blond and blue eyed features are what our society values or at least western societies like the states. And Beth, do want to be stuck focusing on silly hang ups like your appearance or what you want in life. You are a sensitive person with that Pisces Asc. and astrology can perhaps help you manifest the best qualities that are inherent to your nature! Now back to external things and beauty. I always thought I was unattractive, had weight issues as a teenager, and I still am not well endowed with nice womanly parts, I have an almost androgynous body type and I contribute it to having way too many masculine planets in my chart. Yet I feel beautiful, because I except myself with my overt tallness soft-spokeness and tiny breasts... IP: Logged |
Lonake
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 11, 2010 08:28 PM
I like the way you look, Vert, it is unique in a way but very feminine. That's pisces moon playing a part, too, right? It takes a lot of effort for me to remember everyones sun moon asc, so I don't, lol, But I think you have Pisces Moon?IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 635
From: Ohio
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 11, 2010 08:30 PM
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And whoever posted about not being as good looking as their sister: there's always going to be someone better looking than you. That's the way it is for everybody.
I know.  I edited, but I mentioned her, because she has her own issues with her appearance. IP: Logged |
teasel
Knowflake Posts: 635
From: Ohio
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 11, 2010 08:36 PM
In another thread, Jane mentioned Neptune in the 2nd house, possibly giving someone low self-worth/poor self-image. I have that placement, trine my Midheaven and Jupiter. inconjunct Saturn. It isn't a constant thing for me, but it's there. IP: Logged |
Lonake
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 11, 2010 09:52 PM
Makes sense. It's a Venus/Neptune interchange.IP: Logged |
Diablo
Knowflake Posts: 198
From: Melbourne, Australia
Registered: May 2009
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posted March 12, 2010 03:42 AM
Yeah studies have been done to see if attractiveness is a trait that gets your further in life and lucky me, i get to study all this at uni doing a psych degree and have access to medical and psych journals from universities all over the world  . The arena of social psychology centers around this: what attracts us to certain people, different types of interaction, looks, blah blah.
In an evolutionary sense, the reason why so called "attractive" people (i'm talking about the generalised Western idea of beauty/attractiveness) get further ahead and have it easier is because we base our perceptions of the world according to what we see in our immediate environment.
So people are drawn to attractive people because we assume that because they have nice, pleasant features that are nice to our eyes, that we assume that extends to their personal qualities but we all know that's not the case when you get to know someone. Attractiveness does have to do with health in a sense but that goes back to the caveman days when there was no communication and we had a much smaller brain. Curvy woman with a small waist and big boobs are considered the "beauty norm" because back billions of years ago to a caveman that meant a healthy woman who could have healthy babies that could be carried to full term. So someone like me who is tiny, skinny and petite with B cup boobs would be considered ugly, even though I am healthy and would have no problems carrying a healthy child. Same goes with why women are attracted to bad boys, rough guys can "protect" us and our babies from predators like massive Woolly Mamoths or rival tribe that could attack. That seems to have carried through to present day somewhat but not wholly. Seriously though, beauty/attractiveness is a subjective thing personal to every individual. While i fit the "beauty ideal norm" i can honestly say my life hasn't been any easier because of it. And in many ways, it IS a curse because that all people see. I would like to be listened to when I'm saying something, I'd appreciate not being stared at when I'm going about my day, I would like it if men stopped treating me like a porn star sex toy because I don't behave like that or dress in such a manner that invites that kind of attention and for women to like me and not be jealous and to not feel threatened by me and it'd be nice if someone would be my friend for just that reason and not because they can use me as bait to attract men. I want to be acknowledged for my intellectual and humanitarian pursuits but its kinda hard when even your lecture teacher is staring at your boobs like an alcoholic stares at a beer. And i'm not crying out poor me at all cos i dont complain about it at all, I just want to present the other side of the coin in relation to this. When I was younger i used to really ugly-fy myself, wear baggy jumpers & jeans and just went around like a hobo. When i got sexually assaulted by the father of the disabled man i was doing personal care work for, those patterns popped up again. I'd go to work with my brother's baggy jumper that went down to my knees and let about 3 inches of black roots grown out (not good when your blonde).
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Lonake
Knowflake Posts: 877
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted March 12, 2010 03:49 AM
What's the official then on people who look alike? Face wise, anyway, regarding attraction. The press puts out conflicting studies.It should be true since that makes a greater case for mating, etc. Feeling that familiarity since youre used to staring at the same face every day. IP: Logged |
depth
Knowflake Posts: 28
From: Al Kuwayt
Registered: Mar 2010
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posted March 12, 2010 05:58 PM
i've sun conj venus in sag:
self absorbed? yes
my moon's in virgo & merc also conj venus..
self critical? duh!. em not judgemental about others(aqua asc) but when it comes to myself, that's the list
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i incline to worry a lot,hve had eating disorders & find myself the least attractive person at times(there r a few mirrors that r kinder to me.. ). there's not a single person who i see as undesirable as such but i rarely think of myself in those terms.sun/venus sext my asc & jupe sq it so i tend to put on wt quickly & i think it's this aspect that's "blessed" me with naturally broad shoulders but my hands are thin & long. i wish i had fuller lips though
rest of the structure is fine. i've pluto(scorp),merc,venus,nnode conjunct mc(scorp) wid sun in the 10H. my jupe's in scorp too & so all my focus goes on "what the road side public think about me?".i spend more than an hour to dress up for a regular prog & my parents think em too proud. it's difficult to digest compliments & comments on unattractiveness sound honest. aphrodite forms only 3 aspects:
trine to ura/nept
quincunx to sun i've no planet in libra/7H.
em teaching myself dat looks don't matter(spiritually). not every1 cares.
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karena
Knowflake Posts: 121
From:
Registered: Jan 2010
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posted March 13, 2010 10:09 PM
I've seen amowls* in the photo thread, and yes she is perttyMy ac ruler is sextile aphro within 1 orb; maybe it or sun exact trine juno can also mitigate the effect of the aphro-pluto square? I've seen a pretty girl who was born at the same day as me. I've seen a lovely girl a day younger than me --- that means, her aphro-pluto square is even tighter than me. People usually would not say I'm pretty but say I'm cute --- however, I have a lot of experience that when I'm particularly happy and satisfied about my own appearance that day --- people would say I'm pretty. So...phychological factors really reign superb!! IP: Logged |
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