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jacque
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posted April 20, 2010 02:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
The best thing to do right now is cry it out as sad as that sounds it's very positive.

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posted April 20, 2010 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
I am sorry (((((Jaque))))

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posted April 21, 2010 02:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
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I thought my Saturn transits were over?

Saturn's Rx right now @ 29 Virgo, Composite Sun is @ 3 Capricorn. Saturn will later come back to Libra and be squaring c.Sun within orb and sign.

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posted April 21, 2010 02:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jacque     Edit/Delete Message
umm .. this Saturn transit (retrograde?) and then later squaring the Composite Sun? .. Is this a good or bad thing for me and/or for our relationship?

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posted April 21, 2010 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
i covered it in a post on pg.2 ~

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posted April 22, 2010 05:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jacque     Edit/Delete Message
today another *very* close friend of mine said that he is going to be leaving the country for further studies at the end of June and he won't be back for another 2 years. I'm really depressed now ... sigh ..

looks like Pluto really is removing my dependencies .. now I'm scared.

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posted April 22, 2010 06:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jacque     Edit/Delete Message
look at this article I randomly stumbled upon , coincidence?
http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2010/03/letting-go-with-love/

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posted April 24, 2010 12:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jacque     Edit/Delete Message
yesterday another very close friend of mine said he got a new job and was shifting to another city ... this is truly amazing.

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I am sorry you are hurting Jaque
Pluto is a hard task master ,for sure.
I try to bow at his feet cuz he will have his way no matter what.
Thinking of you, friend.


x o x Ami

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posted April 24, 2010 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jacque     Edit/Delete Message
to make matters worse .. the most unbelievable things have happened at work and I've been dragged into all kinds of politics .. it seems it would be in my best interest to search elsewhere. For the most part, I'm going with the flow .. trying to solve problems as they're coming up ... but ... I missed him a lot today.

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posted April 24, 2010 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
You also have Saturn transiting your 8th, which can make it hurt when you want to reach out and saturn there can say 'no'

Happily, there is a coming Jupiter conj Uranus transit in Aries in your 2nd house, trine your Jupiter in early Leo. Be on the look out for any opportunities for increases in income because they will be there fast and then gone. Uranus rules your 1st and Jupiter rules your 11th, so maybe the opportunity will come through a friend.

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posted April 25, 2010 04:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
you can just google that aspect ~ there's lots of articles on the web about it.

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posted April 26, 2010 01:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jacque     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Lonake, I will read about these transits & what to expect.

I wanted to know, when could I expect these Jupiter transits to begin .. have they already begun, will they begin this month ..?

I'm not sure about how to see when a transit will begin and when it won't?

On another thread, Glaucus said that sites like astro.com were not accurate in predicting the start and duration of these transits.

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posted May 03, 2010 02:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jacque     Edit/Delete Message
I tried to make things better, it resulted in another huge argument.

when will Saturn transiting my 8th house be over?

he said he would call me, ball is in his court, is there any hope of reconciliation?

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posted May 03, 2010 04:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Didn't realize you have natal Saturn h8, it's ruling h12.
So your personal Saturn will always carry 8th house issues of intimacy and trust and ruling the 12th will carry difficulties maybe with secrets concerning the 8th house.
Transiting Saturn in your natal Saturn's house just emphasizes everything your natal Saturn is about. The good or not so good or however you want to see it, is it shows all the blocks you put in your path to what your saturn is about which is partly learning to be brave enough to face intimacy, and maybe dealing with the loss when it's no longer.
Fortunately that although it's Rx in Virgo it will speed up and go direct quite soon, your h8 ends around 8 Libra.
So you're coming out of your 1st Saturn return, saturn by transit in virgo was conj your natal saturn in h8, so right now it's wrapping up what it needs to finish in Virgo and will soon after that enter Libra and move onto H9.

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he said he would call me, ball is in his court, is there any hope of reconciliation?

Maybe try posting a horary chart for the time and date place that you ask the question in a separate thread?

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when will Saturn transiting my 8th house be over?

Saturn will be 8 libra around Oct 4, 2010. So hold on until then.
When it enters h9 then you'll still be dealing with h8 saturn things but now you'll see how it relates to your personal faith, as in religion, not spirituality exactly, but more the 'thinking' behind the rites, etc. you will be asked to move beyond the concerns you had earlier in the yr and try to fit them into a larger context, which is what we do when we go from h8 to h9, h8 can be our personal hell, it all depends on how we're working with it, and if you've been having a rough time with t.saturn h8 youll be able to breathe a sigh of relief when you get to H9 because you automatically get to take a step back and start to put the lessons you learned into a larger framework, that is the work of Saturn being in h9, and it may sound simple but I remember my time with it and it's harder than you'd think to get YOUR personal working philosophies in place, or a personal philosophy you could say for living your life. These are rock bottom things that you will need to formulate such as, how can i feel at peace with death, by the time saturn moves to h10 you will need something in place some religious adherence or personal philosophy which clearly spells out something like 'x happens when we die for y reason and z is how we honor what we no longer can see' and you need to fill in the blanks and it's important work because if successful you will have a fallback for every conceivable loss you could face, because many of us face a big one when saturn goes through the 8th, you have to be ready because sometimes Saturn h10 could be a very public loss, how are you going to keep going without something shielding you along? What about when Saturn enters h12 which is a time when many can feel/and or are left left completely alone? Saturn h12 transit is meant to go into the spirituality and refining what you set in place in h9, so it's important now to do the ground work. Sometimes like I said, this can go with your religion or going into a new one, but saturn h9 transit is cementing those bonds somehow, you could also cement yourself Agnostic for all it cares, it just wants for you to get a handle on what happened back in h8 so that now you can see everything that was at work and what it means for you now, in the bigger picture. Saturn h9 tells you to build a framework so that you can start walking again with a clear head after possibly feeling beaten down by h8. It rules travel too and higher education, so immersing yourself in something like this with Saturn in your 9th, especially foreign travel if you could, would really be beneficial for you, to get you out of yourself. If you don't do the work and attempt at some philosophies here it will be very painful to deal with as your past and everything that happened while it was in h8 will feel quite crushing on you, and you could feel like in a swamp, just stuck to the past, do the work and you'll be OK. xoxo

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<Maybe try posting a horary chart for the time and date place that you ask the question in a separate thread?>

I think I know what horary chart is but where can I make one for free?

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posted May 03, 2010 06:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jacque     Edit/Delete Message
thanks for all the info Lonake, really appreciate you being there for me like this.

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posted May 03, 2010 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Jacque, the natal I'm referring to for you is the one you posted along with your friend's and the composite, on pg.1 the 1st chart. It shows saturn 12 virgo h8. Pluto is in Libra but it's in h9.

t. pluto is in capricorn in your h11, soon to be moving into your 12th
t.saturn is in virgo in your h8, soon to be moving into libra

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posted May 04, 2010 01:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jacque     Edit/Delete Message
Pluto in 12th! that doesn't very good .. :

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posted May 09, 2010 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mercuranian     Edit/Delete Message
I don't recall if anyone else recommended it Jaque, but I think you should read Healing Pluto Problems by Donna Cunningham, it may help.

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