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Fleurdelis Knowflake Posts: 106 From: A symbolic tree, Earth Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 14, 2010 01:20 PM
I'm a 5 x planet Libra I'd say relationships are not easy for the Libra types at all. Pushing them into a relationship is a bad way to go about it. Pretense is even worse. Just to say that when they really like you, you'd know it. It's not even a matter of decision. It's more like waiting for the right time. The RIGHT person is of prime importance. A relationship with a Libra type is like a dance. The synchronisation is done to a high art. Bossy, controlling, pushy, aggressive people as partners are what Libras want to weed out. They'd rather disappear than hurt your feelings due to an innate idealistic nature. IP: Logged |
rajin Knowflake Posts: 180 From: Registered: Jul 2009
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posted April 14, 2010 01:38 PM
Hey fluerdelis, I do understand that Libras or for that matter any sign probably does not like to be pushed into a relationship, but would you not agree that if you say you are interested in a person you would make an effort to understand them? My guy has never been able to keep his word, he would say" let's talk this weekend" and i would have to wait for 2 -3 weeks before I heard from him. Me leaving a msg would elicit no response. and this was at the very beginning of the relationship. i always felt like I had to walk on eggshells trying to gauge his moods.He has sun,uranus, jupiter and mercury in libra. I don't know how to behave if he feels threatened by someone trying to merely talk with him. If he goes into full retreat because I enquire after his health, I am left thinking that he is an immature person.IP: Logged |
Fleurdelis Knowflake Posts: 106 From: A symbolic tree, Earth Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 12:13 AM
Rajin, it simply means your interest is greater than his is at this time.You can't force him to be what you want him to be. The Libra type will slink out of your grasp always. They hate to be controlled. Yes, that is immaturity. They need to work on the self first before giving themselves in relationships. That means knowing what they want. To read too much into it is to give yourself needless headaches; it will not solve this situation.. best is to accept it and leave it as it is.. " If he goes into full retreat because I enquire after his health, I am left thinking that he is an immature person." Tip: Don't enquire after him anymore. It shows he doesn't like to be probed. Also, don't expect anything from him, and he may just surprise you. Leave any and all expectations of him out of the window. It isn't fun to be needed and then also be expected to tend to others' needs else be slapped with a negative label.. Also, contrary to popular belief, they may already know who they like and see long term prospects with. Placing expectations or getting personal too much too soon will drive a huge wedge that may not be rectified. However, in my experience, if the strong love is there, nothing cannot be rectified. It just takes much much more time.
Go do your own thing, like be immersed in your work or hobbies, and if they like you, they will get closer. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1672 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 12:57 AM
Fleurdelis - Are you female or male? and.. Do you have anything opposite or square your Libra planets? For example - an Aries Moon.. rajin - vapor_lash@live.com -- email me or add me on msn. I'll tell you what I think.. I'd rather say it in private. IP: Logged |
Fleurdelis Knowflake Posts: 106 From: A symbolic tree, Earth Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 01:08 AM
I don't think I'd wish to divulge my chart..IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1672 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 01:15 AM
Rajin -- I'll just post it briefly..So right now he is avoiding you - right? and he has often been evasive.. Turning the tables would be something like.. 1. Making a date and standing him up. 2. Emailing a week later that you feel cowardly because you really tried but honestly couldn't bring yourself to say this to his face. That you think it is best for both of you to break up. You hope he is not hurt bla bla You are sorry you have been avoiding him lately. You have been talking to someone and they have made you realize this is the best thing to do right now. *pack in the words.. single.. alone... lonely.. etc a few times. I think he'll get scared. He'd prefer to be in a relationship than alone. My Libra ex tried to get back with me every time I broke up with him.. and I was not doing it to play games - I really felt it was over. For some reason they panic if you tell them it's over. But the question is: Do you actually still want him? IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1672 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 01:17 AM
OK - No worries Fleurdellis! IP: Logged |
Fleurdelis Knowflake Posts: 106 From: A symbolic tree, Earth Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 01:21 AM
Ouch, poor Libra."So right now he is avoiding you - right? and he has often been evasive.. Turning the tables would be something like.. 1. Making a date and standing him up. 2. Emailing a week later that you feel cowardly because you really tried but honestly couldn't bring yourself to say this to his face. That you think it is best for both of you to break up. You hope he is not hurt bla bla You are sorry you have been avoiding him lately. You have been talking to someone and they have made you realize this is the best thing to do right now. *pack in the words.. single.. alone... lonely.. etc a few times. I think he'll get scared. He'd prefer to be in a relationship than alone. My Libra ex tried to get back with me every time I broke up with him.. and I was not doing it to play games - I really felt it was over. For some reason they panic if you tell them it's over. But the question is: Do you actually want him? " I'd say Libra - Aries are definitely out. Actually, vapor lash, you played games knowing full well it would hit his soft spot. That is the reflex action you're actually playing him on. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1672 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 01:24 AM
Honestly Fleur - I didn't. I care about him and I wanted us to be just friends.. But the two times I broke things off he convinced me to get back with him. In the end he met an awesome Gemini girl (Actually! Interesting that they are compatible *air* sun signs) - and then he finally ended things himself. I was happy for both of them -- because at that stage I felt like I was with him because I felt "bad" leaving him. I am still friends with both of them. I was happy with the way things worked out. IP: Logged |
Fleurdelis Knowflake Posts: 106 From: A symbolic tree, Earth Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 01:30 AM
I'm do know quite a bit about the aries libra type relationships actually. (not the superficial type, but the actual type)libra will actually give in to aries way more than the other way around, and you can say that he's the one chasing you, but from my experience and observation, the aries person is always the initiator..... gemini and libra are definitely a better match. did you know what you actually did to get him to get back with you is actually playing with his mind and emotions? I bet you dont (or you do, but use it to get what you want), but it is. He may not forgive you for a long time if he actually knew what you were doing. and you'd probably secretly hate his current gemini even though you'd say you're good friends. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1672 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 01:38 AM
Fleurdelis - I honestly don't. Iam pretty Neptunian. I don't hate anyone I know.We both have Capricorn Moons conjunct - In some ways we are very similar - perhaps too similar.. and that is part of the reason I felt it became a friendship over time. It was not romantic anymore. I never really wanted a relationship. Meeting him happened after someone important to me passed away so I was feeling a bit like a hermit. He helped a lot and he was a friend. I didn't really fee like talking to anyone. But he dragged me out of my shell. And I am grateful for that. I do care about him as a friend. I would never be jealous or anything like that. I was lucky enough to meet the right guy for me a couple of years ago and I really feel he is a soulmate. This may sound silly of me (because maybe it's too early to say) But I believe I will spend the rest of my life with this man. I'm sorry you had negative experiences with Aries - if you did. It's not all about the sun sign IP: Logged |
Fleurdelis Knowflake Posts: 106 From: A symbolic tree, Earth Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 01:42 AM
sun sign actually does play a huge part - it is the essence of a person.there are 3 signs I'd rule out for the superlibran type: aries, cancer and aquarian. and neptunian types do hate.. they just do it below the belt. theyre not jesus types by any means. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1672 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 01:49 AM
Fleur - The sun is significant.. you're right. I can see Aries traits in myself. But I've had many many events that were Capricorn and Pisces related. Cap Moon has played a huge part.. or at least I think it has. I do have my somber side. I'm just saying people are usually a "package" of many things. Anyway - I understand.. Sometimes when you're hurt by particular people and you see a pattern you feel like staying away from them after a while. You might be right about super-libran types. I don't know any.. My ex has Sun and Venus in Libra.. but he also has strong Capricorn and Scorpio. So it was not all Libra. We have many earthy and watery trines happening. He also has Virgo Mars. I think trines lead to friendship. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1672 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 01:51 AM
*edit*nvm.. I accidentally edited over this IP: Logged |
Fleurdelis Knowflake Posts: 106 From: A symbolic tree, Earth Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 01:59 AM
Actually, I'm the type who brushes things off until various events add up to an epiphany.I feel that besides the moon conjunction you speak of, that Libra is way too tame for Aries. Aries will often go on to more challenging pastures. Libra trips Aries up, as well as vice versa. They'll actually prevent you from asserting your Aries energy and make you ashamed of sometimes being who you want to be. Your Capricorn placements definitely does tone down the impulsive Ariesness and gives your sun character and resilience. But the average Libra cannot handle an Aries; you jolly well know that. We stand for vastly different things. But incidentally, the Aries is the one with the true intimate knowledge of the Libra psyche, and they can use it to their advantage at any time, which the Aries energy is bound to do from time to time. This one is going to be very damaging in the long run. And if you love your libra friend, don't use his achilles heel against him, especially if you want nothing more to do with him. I've been in close contact with Neptunian types before. Thing is, you're right, they don't "hate" as you said, but they have a deep resentment that seeps out, and they try to undermine you. They just cannot help it. It's a passive form of attack, slightly neurotic. I've not met Neptunian types that were totally healthy to be considered a "Jesus" type, unless you take Venus in Pisces, yes, then I see a few. IP: Logged |
glamgem25 Knowflake Posts: 401 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 02:07 AM
Fleurdelis- I think you are being just a tad judgemental of vapor-lash. Everyone has posted their opinions on Libras and how they've handled them. That was why someone started the thread in the first place to get advice on other Libras!! You live, learn and move on!!
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Fleurdelis Knowflake Posts: 106 From: A symbolic tree, Earth Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 02:09 AM
Now, why don't you, glamgem, take your own advice?Dating is a cruel game, some signs more than others. And I think my opinion is as valid as any other. IP: Logged |
glamgem25 Knowflake Posts: 401 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 02:13 AM
But others are not being tacky and ugly to get a point across....saying vapor secretly hates the gemini that he (the libra) is with now?? Come on!! If you're having a bad day...why comment?IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1672 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 02:16 AM
Fleurdellis - sorry if I'm giving you the wrong idea. I don't want to seem holier than thou or Jesus-like. I am capable of manipulation and the things you mentioned, but I seldom choose to do this and never in romantic or emotional situations (with friends and family and my SO).. Usually I would manipulate in a career-related area.. Maybe that's the Capricorn in me.There was a point in my life when I was romantically manipulative. The guy I was with then was also manipulative towards me (both of us are Neptunian).. and this back and forth manipulation ruined things. I was burnt back then and decided never to do this again. If I was in Rajin's shoes - personally - I would leave this situation.. But if she wants to do otherwise it is up to her, and since she asked me for advice on getting him to behave *better* towards her - I believe what I told her, could work. But I would not use it myself. I'm not sure what else she could do.. simply because I find the way he is behaving careless, cold and a bit rude -- from what she is describing. So at this stage -- I think it could go two ways. Either she leaves.. or she gets him to "shape up" somehow. quote: if you love your libra friend, don't use his achilles heel against him, especially if you want nothing more to do with him.
I won't. I never have. He came into my life after the Piscean guy (the guy I had a highly manipulative relationship with). And I've never behaved this way towards anyone, since then. quote: they have a deep resentment that seeps out, and they try to undermine you. They just cannot help it. It's a passive form of attack
This is very true about me *when* I do attack. It's interesting you mentioned attack.. because I actually have Mars (my Sun's dispositor and the planet of attack-defense).. conjunct Neptune. But I only feel like attacking when someone has had a negative impact in some way. I don't have a resentment towards people in general. I really like a majority of people. Usually my *attack* is aimed at deterring some behaviour.. if I see the behaviour as "negative" in my life or the life of others. IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1672 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 02:21 AM
Thank you glamegem I was not offended. I think Fleur has had negative experiences with the Aries-Libra relationship.
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glamgem25 Knowflake Posts: 401 From: Texas Registered: May 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 02:23 AM
anytime Vapor!! I, myself have some Libra in my chart and like to see things "fair" IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1672 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 02:26 AM
glamgemohhh The weirdest thing just happened.. I posted my last post and it did not show up.. so I tried to post it again - but it said message edited.. and now it seems it was edited over my previous post -_- Is Mercury retrograde on soon?
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Fleurdelis Knowflake Posts: 106 From: A symbolic tree, Earth Registered: Apr 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 02:29 AM
GlamGem, taking sides is not being fair by any means, just so you know. But it doesn't matter. And Vapor lash, you don't actually have to defend yourself, because what is, is.
People shouldn't be grudged for who they are; they just take things from a different approach. And yes, my experience with Aries types is that they want to win at all costs, even if it means attacking left right and centre. Whatever they say is secondary to their actions. I have learnt it the very hard way. But you likely have risen above that because those Aries I spoke of are not ashamed of what they did, in fact, they pretend it never happened. IP: Logged |
CrazyAquarian Knowflake Posts: 134 From: US Registered: Jan 2010
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posted April 15, 2010 02:29 AM
"Is Mercury retrograde on soon?" YES O_O That reminds me I wanted to check on when lolAh ha! April 18th - May 11th O_O ------------------ ~Believe~ IP: Logged |
vapor-lash Knowflake Posts: 1672 From: Registered: Nov 2009
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posted April 15, 2010 02:37 AM
Fleur - I know what you mean. I have seen that behaviour in some Aries people myself. The negative traits of our top 3 placements are the ones that are easiest to *fall* into. I am ashamed of my behaviour then. I am actually still upset with myself over it. But I have changed a lot since then. I wanted you to know my perspective - because not every single person is going to be the way those particular Aries people were. IP: Logged |