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comica23
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posted April 29, 2010 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for comica23     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ah I've used that word 3 times in my 1st post after all lol. No wonder everyone got that idea. Sometimes, it just takes 1 opinion in the middle of a thread to start a chain of misunderstandings. XD

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cherle
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posted April 29, 2010 11:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, my brother has an Aries moon and I'd call him both oblivious to others' feelings and selfish, even now he's in his 40's. He also has a Leo Sun, which doesn't help reign in his fire qualities, and with his Scorp ASC cj natal Neptune, he tries to hide how selfish and unsympathetic he is. He also projects a lot--like, if he's insecure about something, he makes it out to be your insecurity and then teases you about it. That's why he can't be bothered to care about other people and their genuine feelings. He needs other people to be canvases for him to project his garbage onto. He's a pretty nasty person, honestly.

I was reading in Liz Greene's Astrology for Lovers about the shadow side of Aries. She says it's two things: out-of-control pernicketiness, and sloth, in the form of feeling entitled and wanting others to do things for them. My brother is a good example of both. He can be pernickety about little things and blow them up into these gigantic ideological battles, obscuring that it all is some petty personal issue of his that he just needs to get over. And his sense of entitlement is suffocating. His biggest problem with me, his younger sister, is that I don't acknowledge all the things he thinks me and the rest of the family owes him, and he's resentful that he's not off living the high life that he thinks he deserves but hasn't done anything to earn. He's always acting put-upon, like whatever he's doing is a huge sacrifice deserving of a bigger reward than he's getting, whereas if you did the same thing, he's ridicule you for being over-rewarded for it.

Really, he's just a tedious ******* .

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Lonake
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posted April 29, 2010 11:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
CrazyAquarian ~
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they don't notice how their actions are insensitive and hurt others.

Oh I've loved & liked many Fire moons in the present/past, don't take it seriously, they care but they're also quite naive in a certain way. No I don't think there's malice there @ all, unless there are other behaviors pointing to same, but mostly those moons are live and let live, pretty open and accepting. And your Scorpio moon could possibly give em a taste of something they're not used to. It's all good, but if you need something more from them don't stay quiet about it, speak up They tend to care more sometimes than they show.

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Lonake
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posted April 30, 2010 12:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
And for the record my grandmother a Cancer Sun, Aries Moon, was the best role model for me of what a mother should be: caring, sensitive, alert and fiercely protective, always feminine and always strong. Loved her!

I've known many other Aries Moons too, don't think they aren't a sensitive bunch because they are. Fire just like Water are by nature the most outwardly sensitive elements, they're akin, it's Earth and Air who are bonded in a more -seemingly- insensitive rational stance.

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Water is opposite Air
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Fire (more in common with water than air and earth) is opposite Earth (more in common with air than water and fire)
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Not the traditional air/fire masuline, etc. approach we're used to, since this time we're looking at the psychology behind the element more than simple gender.

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dinobleue
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posted April 30, 2010 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dinobleue     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Yes my sister is Cancer Sun Aries Moon and she sounds nothing like your grandmother Lonake! She sounds exactly like Cherle's brother actually. And I'm not saying she's not sensitive, because she is incredibly sensitive but only to her own feelings. She's very childish actually...

But it's funny this dark side of Aries you're describing. I love Aries Sun people and I've never really known them to be like that. My man is an Aries Sun and those traits don't really describe him at all. But they describe my sister exactly. She also has this entitlement thing where if you do her a favor, well duh you're expected to, but if she does you a favor you are forever indebted to her. I stopped asking her for help years ago, lol.

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CrazyAquarian
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posted April 30, 2010 03:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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don't take it seriously, they care but they're also quite naive in a certain way.

I don't, I know they care, I was just trying to figure out if that was the reason why they are oblivious to others emotions.

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NeptuneIllusion
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posted April 30, 2010 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for NeptuneIllusion     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have a Sag moon and I'm highly empathic. There have been times when I've hurt people with my honesty but for the most part people always tell me I'm a nice person- no one has ever called me insensitive.

I know people with Fire moons that are insensitive but that just goes back to water and fire not blending very well and some people just aren't raised to be empathetic.

I know it's easy to generalize people because of a certain planetary placement, but it just doesn't work that way. We are all individuals and it's not that simple. There are definitely certain traits that can show up in people but it always depends more on the environment.

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Desiring Shadows
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posted February 24, 2012 11:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Desiring Shadows     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I think the reason Sagittarians unintentionally hurt others carelessly is because they are the big-shemed type. Sagittarians also move on really quickly. Your ascendant is traits you bring to your personality every day. I don't know much about sag ascendant, but i know my gem ascendant has an affect on the way I walk my dog and eat a vegeburger at the same time while texting. It makes me more prone to multitasking, because this sign has so much nervous energy. (opposite signs are similar)
I guess you do things like a Sagittarius? Move on fast and live life for the fun, philosophical part? Sagittarians don't dwell, thats for sure. Why else do you think they're always the life of the party; especially after thheir date just turned them down? They also don't pay attention as well as the other elements because facial expressions and deeper meanings are not what they're about. They're about the random funny topics that stimulate their intellect and make them challenge life philosophically. Most people aren't offended by sagittarians because they sense their innocence of nature and faith in humanity and most people don't like to spoil that for them.

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SaggiMC
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posted February 25, 2012 07:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for SaggiMC     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Originally posted by CrazyAquarian:
[b] [QUOTE]Ops, it was me who used the "selfish" word first lol but I've only used it to describe my past fire Moon self, and then I've used it to say self-centered =/= selfish (since I've mentioned that I'm self-centered, so I was afraid that it would be misunderstood). So I've misled everyone else by starting the "selfish" word chain. XP

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SO I guess everyone is skipping my post and reading yours first lol

This is Sad as it is your thread, but most people are 'self absorbed' and not into helping others, but I am...

Basic astrology forum, All About Moons http://www.linda-goodman.com/ubb/Forum12/private-jjLYZw161/HTML/000681.html

Do you know your TOB? With scorpio moon it's not great for being stuck in 12th, in fact it's not great to have anything stuck in 12th. It can suggest some kind of resentment towards mother (depending on how it's aspected of courrse) either smother loved or emotionally neglected.

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Delilah
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posted February 25, 2012 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Delilah     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It might be the aspects to their Moon. I'm an Aries Moon and feel like I was born feeling other people's emotions and am emotionally protective of the people I care about.

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ail221
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posted February 25, 2012 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ail221     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I wouldn't say Sag moons are insensitive actually the ones I have come across seem to be emotionally adaptable but also a little vulnerable.

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the89freespirit
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posted February 25, 2012 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for the89freespirit     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
You can't take it too personally with Fire Moons. I like to think of it as they're so consumed with their feelings that they forget about others'. It's just kind of the way they process things, but it doesn't mean they're intentionally being malicious. You can't always stereotype and they're very capable of being sensitive themselves. But, they aren't Water Moons. They don't pick up on subtleties naturally (unless they have lots of Water in their chart). Therefore, you have to be very direct with them about it. "What you said hurt my feelings because..." You'll usually be met with an expression of surprise and a sincere apology. In my experience, most of them are really good-natured people, in the end.

I actually get along very well with Fire Moons and maybe it's because I'm a Fire Sun. I love the frankness and the feistiness and the independent spirit because I share those same traits, albeit they manifest in a slightly different manner.

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