posted February 15, 2015 08:39 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
What you see is what you get. While most people`s Draconic chart reveals what they have underneath, and it can be quite different, in your case you are simply you. Always. Right down to the core. And expressing this quite clearly visibly, in accordance to your tropical chart.

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posted February 15, 2015 08:40 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ceridwen:
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So you are a communicative and talkative guy with quite a bit of brainpower, as the Moon in Gemini suggests, analytical, yes.
However on a bit deeper level, underneath, we can see that there is quite a lot of passion, intuition (rather than pure analytical mindedness) and well, much more stubborn or determined internally than the Gemini Moon may suggest.

I am not sure how much you will be able to relate to this, especially if the Draco Moon is not aspecting your natal chart, though.

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Maybe you could almost think of the Draconic placement as a 12th house planet/ placement.

It might not be overly obvious on the outside, but it is there as a great ressource, underneath, on a deeper level of your psyche

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I have a 12th mercury, Venus, mars, natally so energy expressed in that way is familiar to me.
So Draconic can be felt outwardly. But it's more, a "vibe"?

Since you say resource it makes me think that as Gemini moons go, I may have an ability to understand things on deeper, intuitive levels if I need to. But day to day I operate more as simply Gemini moon.

Is that accurate? [/B][/QUOTE]

Yes, I think that is accurate. Makes sense to me at least.

posted February 15, 2015 08:44 AM            

So it seems pretty important to use in synastry with someone.

posted February 15, 2015 08:49 AM            

One of the more extreme instances is with a guy, and the two of us are heavily influenced by Sagittarius-energy, including his Sun-Moon-MC falling onto my Sun-Mercury. Plus a real nice interplay of his Mars and Jupiter with my Jupiter (and Venus with a bit of wider orb).
Just sooo happy go lucky, let`s have fun, right?

And then you get to the DRaco level and there we have Dr MC conjunct Dr IC for once, and along that double axis my Dr Pluto opposing his Dr Sun-Moon-MC, with my Dr Pluto ALSO falling onto his tropical Venus, and my Dr IC falling onto his tropical Juno.

Plus his Draco Mars-Jupiter (Amor) opposing my natal Pluto (with his Dr Eros).

and if we are REAL generous with orbs my Draco Venus opposing his natal Pluto (and most certainly my Draco Venus on his Draco Saturn-Vertex-DESC - that one is rather tight).

And all at once it does not seem quite as jolly and carefree, right?

posted February 15, 2015 08:49 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Why many people have their NN in Zero degree Aries in draconic chart, I have it also.

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posted February 15, 2015 08:54 AM            

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Originally posted by Aries Eagle:
Why many people have their NN in Zero degree Aries in draconic chart, I have it also.

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Everyone has their NN in Zero Aries in Draconic chart. that is how a Draco chart is being defined/ calculated, by putting the NN onto 00 ARies, and moving the other planets the same amount of degrees into the same direction. The natal chart stays the same but you change the fiducal point. instead of starting with the spring equinox (which puts the Sun on 00 Aries) and calculation the angular distance of all planets to that degree (00 Aries), which is how the tropical cchart is defined, in a Draco chart we use the individual NN as starting point, and put all planets in relation to that. To do that, we simply have to put the NN onto 00 Aries and move the other planets equally.

For example my NN is 10 Sagittarius or 250°, since that is being 110° of the spring equinox or ZEro Aries, I simply have to move all planets 110° forwards to arrive at my Draconic chart. it is just a shift of the starting point.

posted February 15, 2015 08:56 AM            

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Originally posted by DeepFreeze:
All draconic charts are calculated by moving the wheel backwards until zero Aries (Aries point) is on your NN.
planets and houses do not shift.
The signs move.

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Thanks for the clarification.

posted February 15, 2015 08:56 AM            

I couldn't get a grasp on how it is viewed by us in personality. So basically a side of us only or closest family and such may see.

posted February 15, 2015 09:16 AM            

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Originally posted by Ceridwen:
Everyone has their NN in Zero Aries in Draconic chart. that is how a Draco chart is being defined/ calculated, by putting the NN onto 00 ARies, and moving the other planets the same amount of degrees into the same direction. The natal chart stays the same but you change the fiducal point. instead of starting with the spring equinox (which puts the Sun on 00 Aries) and calculation the angular distance of all planets to that degree (00 Aries), which is how the tropical cchart is defined, in a Draco chart we use the individual NN as starting point, and put all planets in relation to that. To do that, we simply have to put the NN onto 00 Aries and move the other planets equally.

For example my NN is 10 Sagittarius or 250°, since that is being 110° of the spring equinox or ZEro Aries, I simply have to move all planets 110° forwards to arrive at my Draconic chart. it is just a shift of the starting point.

Alternatively I could also substract 250° from all my planets. the result would be the same.

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