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GrlyGirl20
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posted May 12, 2010 02:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I was thinking about this and being that I am single what type of guy I'd like to date next. I'm a Cancer Mars in the 1st Conjunct both my Sun and Asc. And the type of guy I like is deff a mans man...a bad as*...like he fights (not all the time lol), LOVES sports, works on cars, aggressive...basically all the typical Man stuff...BUT is in private a real softy.

I read this...and was really liking it lol. It speaks to the kind of guy I like.

"If you have Mars in Aries, you are especially drawn to strong or athletic men and "macho" types; and have an even more aggressive inner "warrior woman" who loves action, competition, and challenges - perhaps even a good fight now and then"

But also this describes me to a t...not so much the liking my mom. "But If you have Mars in Cancer, you may be particularly drawn to a protective and mature man, and possibly to one who acts like a "father-figure" to you."

So do any of you see this in common with your mars? I think the reason mine might be so like the Aries more than the Cancer is because the 1st is such a strong house. And it's conjunct all my stuff.

What are your thoughts on this?
http://www.astrologyzine.com/index.shtml

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posted May 12, 2010 02:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
mars in scorpio in the 10th conjunct saturn, square sun.

yes, i love intense men. dark and probing. oddly, i actually have a thing for older men. i'm cap rising with venus in cap too so that may have something to do with it. but maybe its the mars conjunct saturn biz.

i like a man that is driven and ambitious. goal oriented. but also very into the metaphysical.

from astrologyzine...

SUN of MARS in SCORPIO
The type of man who attracts you seems intense or inscrutable, and has a kind of magnetic charisma about him that hints at smouldering sexuality and passion.

You are strong-willed and possessive, and like the same in a mate, for you have a deep-felt need to be wanted.

A subtle psychological power struggle may be a seductive aspect of the attraction. You may seek to control (or to lose control) - especially through sex or seduction.

Men who seem mysterious or brooding or have "deep dark secrets" could intrigue and entice you. See some films starring James Dean or Mickey Rourke for examples.

You are often attracted to men who seem "powerful" or "dangerous".

If you have Mars in Scorpio, you will have extra strong passions and sexual desires, and a sexual magnetism that is sensed by others, especially other Scorpio types. You are the ultimate "Seductress" and may be especially aroused by the raw sexual energy of a passionate man.

...sigh...
so true.

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posted May 12, 2010 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Look at the sun too.

It's not just the Mars it's also the Sun for ideal man. Whether or not you want him actually lol. Because our unconscious registers ideal in a weird way.

I have to sleep but I will post mine tomorrow

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posted May 12, 2010 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mintgirl123     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have virgo sun,
libra moon merc and venus
and MARS IN VIRGO

I like confidence but too much is a turn off. Quiet competence really.
I like motivated guys, guys who aren't TOO masculine nor are they too metro.
I like guys that have an effortless style. Like have style that looks like they just threw it on (guys that look like they spend 2 hrs in front of the mirror is a huge turn off)
I LOVE witty, intelligent, opinionated guys. Good listeners, hard on the outside, soft on the inside (romantic guys are attractive, but not TOO much smoothness otherwise I think they're greasy haha lol) My libra aspects?
Good hygiene (clean, tidy and smells nice haha)
And passion and intensity.

I think it's my 8th house scorp pluto that wants it.

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posted May 12, 2010 04:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for vapor-lash     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a look both my Sun (Aries) and Mars (Capricorn) and their respective houses -- 11th and 7th... I also looked at Pisces Mars -- because I have Mars conjunct Neptune.. and Sun square Neptune.

Out of all of that the closest to what I want was the Aquarius interpretation -- (11th Sun)

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The type of man who attracts you is intellectually interesting, logical, open-minded, and willing to experiment. A man with ideas and insights fascinates you. You're even more attracted if he seems unconventional or unpredictable or just "unusual". Idealists, individualists, and rebels intrigue you - even ones who would shock your parents or friends.


Political types may also appeal to you, especially the "reformers" and "crusaders" and defenders of the down-trodden.


You can be aroused more by curiosity than by sexual signals alone, so an interesting man who is a little aloof (or even eccentric) intrigues and attracts you. Originality gets your attention, and unpredictability keeps you interested. Boring and dull people lose your interest quickly; and the closed-minded and rigid types lose your respect.


It may be because my father has Sun, Moon, Venus and Mars in Aquarius.. though
I'm not sure... but it's possible.


There were bits from the others that suit me -- here and there... but they don't come close to the Aquarius interpretation...


From Capricorn:

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You may be attracted to men who are much older. You choose the established career man over guys with good looks but poor prospects.


You can be slow to show your affections, so you are comfortable with a man who hides his feelings, and patient with one who takes time to commit - if he is serious about commitments. And you may expect a man to be patient with you to.


Those are both true.. I take my time for sure.

From Pisces:

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The idea of a secret love affair can excite and entice you. Mystery intriques you

LOL Yes I am in the middle of one, on my way to seeing him soon!! --- in secrecy --- shush!

From Libra:

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You can be "charmed" by a smooth-talker, and are attracted to the "creative" types.


You may also find an argument arousing, as long as it remains verbal and does not get physically threatening.


From Aries:

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men in uniform - military or police, etc


Regardless of how you appear on the surface, there is a "warrior woman" deep inside you, and what you really want is a "warrior" who is strong enough or brave enough to be your mate.


That is true - but slightly exaggerated.

Nice thread idea Grly!

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posted May 12, 2010 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for braveheart     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Great topic.

I have Mars in Gemini, and I am mainly attracted to athletes. A guy who would go for a run with me, or play tennis, or a swim. He would also have to be some type of builder. Carpenter, brickie, landscaper maybe. Someone who works with his hands, and can be creative.
Also someone who likes to play board games, video games and goes to trivia nights. And likes rock. Someone who likes camping, hiking, and just being outdoors.

Edit: the mars in aries one sounds like me to, probably cause my moon is in aries.

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posted May 12, 2010 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for venus in gemini     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Mars in Aries is attracted to strong, powerful men. My guy is a Cancer, but with an Aries ASC, so he has a lot of Aries going on.

This is from Relationship and Life Cyles by Stephen Arroyo:

Mars in Aries would have a certain degree of brashness, someone who is very direct and often competitive. In a woman's chart, she would not only have some of those aggressive qualities in herself, but she's attracted to men who exemplify those qualities. Her Mars is tripped off by someone with Aries qualities. She would like someone who is adventurous, brave, daring.

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posted May 12, 2010 10:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for la_sexorcisto     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like guys who have an air of mystery..dark, brooding, quiet but not awkwardly shy...still assertive and can be aggressive when he needs to be. I like a guy who is sensitive and deep..but also funny, intelligent, and definitely "different". A guy who is adventurous, open-minded, and a free spirit is perfect for me.


My Mars is in Pisces in the 5th house, conjunct Jupiter, square Uranus, Saturn, and Mercury, trine Venus.

the Pisces in me wants to sensitive, loving, deeply interesting guy. 5th house placements indicates my love for fun fun fun! with a guy.

Luckily I have a guy right now who is all these things..he can be aggressive, somewhat of an a$$hole, funny, smart, quirky, weird...but he's so sensitive, caring, thoughtful, deeply attached to me and that is what I love the most

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posted May 12, 2010 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I like guys who have a sense of style and I can have philosphical discussions with. They get points if they have hobbies (like being in a band or skateboarding lol). I don't like guys that drink A LOT or smoke weed a lot. I also like guys who are ambitious and have future plans. A big turn on for me are men that are political or help out in the community.

I have Mars in Sag in the 6th. For me it's hard to tell whether my Mars is at work or my DSC because that's in Sag too (Jupiter in Aries in the 11th). MVM mentioned the Sun is an indicator, but again that matches my DSC because its in Aqua in the 9th... So basically strong Aqua/Sag influence. Not sure where Virgo/6th house would come in. I don't care if guys are neat. I dated this one guy who never showered and I didnt mind.

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posted May 12, 2010 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hmmmmmmmmm

My man does NOT fit my Mars in Cappy description. He has his Aries Moon, vertex conj my 11th house Sun in Aries - opposite my 5th house Uranus in Libra. With Sun Uranus opposition I end up with an Aquarian man.......Funny how that works.

He has a whole bunch of Saggy planets and my 7th house is Sag. He Venus falls right into my 7th con my desc......though natally both out plutos sqaure his venus...

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posted May 12, 2010 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 12, 2010 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulful122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
7th house ruler Mars in Libra in 1st house.

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And the type of guy I like is deff a mans man...a bad as*...like he fights (not all the time lol), LOVES sports, works on cars..

What you described Grlygirl20 sounds like what I like! But I think my Venus conj Saturn (Venus 28° Sco, Saturn 1° Sag), and Moon in 10th house might contribute to me finding older guys attractive. My boyfriend is 13 yrs older.

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posted May 12, 2010 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for evander     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
(I heard the type of man you want depends some on lilith. I found it to be true for me.)

I have Mars in Aries(12th house), and yes I feel a certain urge for athleticism both in myself and the special somebody. More and more I get attracted to the intellect though. And it so depends on the person. When someone who makes your world spin all criteria fall in the water.


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posted May 12, 2010 11:57 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for StarrofVenusGirl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Mars in Leo:The man who attracts you is one who radiates warmth and shows his affection in a physical way.

You're even more interested if he is rich or famous or powerful or gorgeous... and thus can reflect his glory onto you.

A man who commands respect, and a man who is generous (and can afford to be), will also appeal to you.

You like men who admire and praise you.
A fine face and beautiful body get your attention. You may be particularly attracted to "the boss" or men who are "leaders" in some way.

You can also be drawn to the "creative" type such as actors, artists, musicians, or performers.

If you have Mars in Leo, you may get aroused by seeing a man act self-assured, cocky, or even arrogant.

Basically, you are like a Princess who expects to be treated royally and courted by a handsome and powerful Prince.


Pretty accurate! Wealth doesn't interest me, but I care very much about what others think of my man. I want to be proud of him, so if he's not the best looking he has to be the best dressed or smartest or tallest or most successful or have the best body or SOMETHING "the best" LOL. My current love fits the "beautiful face, body, creative, cocky" description to a tee...interesting.

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Sun in Virgo: The type of man who attracts you is intelligent, well-mannered, well-dressed, practical, and reliable - especially if he's neat and clean.

You may actually check out your new date's fingernails to see if they are clean and manicured. Or you check his shoes.

Appearances are important to you - not so much LOOKS, but LOOKING "proper" - but few are "perfect" enough.

Yet you are at times attracted to a man who is far from perfect, because you think you can "fix" him.

An intelligent conversation arouses your interest. You appreciate wit, but not crudeness.

You appreciate a man who can act with decorum in public, yet can abandon himself to an earthy lustinesss in private (as you do).


Also spot on! I don't want a neat freak, but I noticed the tiniest things. I hate that about myself because I know I'm not perfect, but little things will turn me off so quickly! Like fingernails...one of the first things I notice. Teeth, etc. Clothing with stains is a turn off. Intelligence is a HUGE turn on! And I despise crudeness...I don't mind dirty jokes or anything, but timing and atmosphere are important. I'm always about being "appropriate" for the circumstances or at least being asked "Want to hear a dirty joke?"

And yes, there's nothing sexier than a man who is reserved in public and a wildman behind doors LOL!

Good find GG!


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posted May 12, 2010 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cherle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted May 12, 2010 12:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I got Sun and Mars in cancer but they're on the cusp, so there's a bit of a gemini influence there. (they're both in my 3rd house, which is ruled by gemini instead of being in the 4th where they belong)

I couldn't really say what my type is, I've been out with so many men but I guess it comes down to 2 types. Its either the sexy intellectual who's a high flying lawyer or accountant or in some profession they had to go to school for(think Jack from Lost..YUM) and if they're not the intellectual, then I get attracted to those business-man types who have own heaps of property and are known and therefore have considerable influence but for me, the bad boy wins every single time, cos I'm a bad girl lol. The "i dont give a f*ck" attitude.

The link pretty much confirmed that. I checked both the gemini and cancer for my sun and mars and it said what I just did lol.

Gemini influence: "Communication" is very important to you, so the man who can share information and ideas appeals to you. If he says interesting things and stimulates you intellectually, he'll spark a romantic interest too

(nothing turns me on more than good conversation and I've always strived to be interesting as well as attractive. This is why I like educated professionals, I can actually talk to them about stuff like business, finance, law, politics etc whereas you can't with someone who isn't generally unless they the self educated type)

Cancer influence: If you find that he makes you feel "safe", you'll somehow feel yourself drawn to him.
You can be attracted to a man who is financially secure, especially if he owns his own home, has a "nest egg" saved for a rainy day, and could afford to raise children in a good home environment.
Your strong sexuality responds best to emotion and security.

(yep. That's where the attraction to property developers/owners with a big, influential portfolio comes in. I can't help but be attractive to power. The protective thing would come from the bad boy attraction, back in the day when I was an exotic dancer those types were around me all the time and I guess the fact that they have raw, masculine power is what I find hot.

It also said something about daddy issues, like wanting a father figure to protect you and I have to say that I do like protective men. Big attraction there. I might be a fearless b*tch to the world but behind closed doors I'm like a little girl who wants to be looked after)

The Taurus venus would have a lot to do with the attraction to money and power and equating it with security and stability, which is even more true as its in the 2nd house

In fact, right now I'm kinda seeing a guy who's family owns practically an entire suburb (and a wealthy one too), knows everyone in this city and is in his mid-20s and already owns 4 houses. And he's just a plumber too, so he's not a snob or anything.
(Cancer sun/Taurus venus there ^^)

He's chasing me hard, taking me out to dinner and movies and treating me like a lady, not trying to get sexual with me at all, which just keeps me intrigued (cos when a guy doesn't, typical woman i am, I sit there and think, "what the hell is wrong with me????" instead of accepting the good treatment) and wants to pay for things that are going to make my life better (like any type of therapy or counselling I need to stop smoking weed. Of course I couldn't accept and said NO)
There's the Cancer influence there, I love how he wants to look after me and make me 100% again

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posted May 12, 2010 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulful122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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It also said something about daddy issues, like wanting a father figure to protect you and I have to say that I do like protective men. Big attraction there. I might be a fearless b*tch to the world but behind closed doors I'm like a little girl who wants to be looked after)

Me too Diablo . Though I don't think it always has something to do with daddy issues. I have a great relationship with my father! But I do enjoy being protected by the guys I'm dating. '

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I have mars, sun and mercury in cancer.

I dont like a man to look after me at all. I hate being told what to do or ever depending on a man for anything. I dont ever expect a guy to fight my battles or start trouble if im out and another guy looks or says anything. I like a guy to be sensitive towards me if im emotional which doesnt happen too often but if it does just like every other girl i wouldnt want him to be as a$$hole to me. I dont and have never let another guy pay my bills or when i go out buy my drinks. I dont allow my parents to shout me food or drinks either. Its just how i am. So all of that "take care of me" crap does not work for me at all. It might be nice if i could do it but i would lose my independance if i did that and its very embarressing to have someone do things for me, help me etc.

anyways what i do like is a very cool reserved guy. The one whos not too clingy that sits across from me in a room or wherever we are who is confident and who talks to me through his eyes. He doesnt complain, he doesnt talk too much or stress alot either. He must be independant as well because i dont like being your mother. I may do it alot and take care of someone but if you expect it i wont do it.

He must know how to keep the passion and romance alive otherwise i feel like running. Nothing too complicated just be mellow, relaxed and enjoy life and laughing.

I hate games too if they involve my feelings. I dont take anyones crap at all and I do not in any way chase guys. I cant be happy unless i know he loves me and theres no point chasing someone who doesnt feel the same. I instantly go cold and switch off.. So he must enjoy the chase as well.

Genuwine and honest men appeal to me. The ones who yet again have the confidence to be who they really are and arn't afraid to show their true colours.

I am a very home type person but i dont want my partner to be the same because then i dont feel balanced. I dont want to live my life inside my home forever so i dont want anyone who will encourage me to sit on my a$$ all day at home and eat and watch movies with him (which is what my taurus bf did). Spontaneous and sexy and willing to do crazy stuff sometimes gets me excited and makes me want him more.

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posted May 12, 2010 02:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree, sometimes its to do with maturity levels lol.
My partners/lovers have always been either born the year before me, or considerably older. Having said that, I don't like old, mature men and am not attracted to them. 40 and under for me, lol. My last boyfriend was 7yrs older than me and the lover i had previously to him was like, 37 or 38 while I was 21 or 22.

I have a good relationship with my dad, I love him very much and he's the perfect example of what every father and husband should be.
But my dad's an Aquarius with a Pisces moon. There's always been something about him that's been emotionally and mentally distant and withdrawn, like he lives in his head too much.
It's not that he was uncomfortable about expressing love, far from it. He's just a quiet guy and like a typical Aquarian, just doesn't know how to show love with hugs and kisses and I love you's.
Cool, calm and collected my dad is, living in a house full of water
(me, cancer. Bro, cancer. Sis, capricorn with the rest Scorpio. Mum, pisces)

With him, the love is shown through domestic things, like asking how work is, how my court case went, coming with me to court, taking my car to the mechanics, showing concern about the state of my drivers license is going, cooking me dinner, asking if I'm going out when I walk out the door just to talk to me or if I need a lift to the train station in the morning and if so, what time and whether i need to be picked up.

The best is how he sits and folds the laundry and sorts out the underwear of the women in the household and arranges it into neat little piles that he hands out or leaves on our bed.

He's never been strict and seems to be dominated by my mum. As a kid, I don't remember him around much cos he was always working to provide us with a comfortable life and opportunities. Even though he was present in body, really, he wasn't.

In my teenage days my boyfriends were emotionally extreme and very clingy. Complete opposite to him. Now that I'm older, I go for men that have the same qualities as him and I only realise till much later afterwards.

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posted May 12, 2010 02:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"I dont like a man to look after me at all. I hate being told what to do or ever depending on a man for anything. I dont ever expect a guy to fight my battles or start trouble if im out and another guy looks or says anything. I like a guy to be sensitive towards me if im emotional which doesnt happen too often but if it does just like every other girl i wouldnt want him to be as a$$hole to me. I dont and have never let another guy pay my bills or when i go out buy my drinks. I dont allow my parents to shout me food or drinks either. Its just how i am. So all of that "take care of me" crap does not work for me at all. It might be nice if i could do it but i would lose my independance if i did that and its very embarressing to have someone do things for me, help me etc."

Agreed.
That kind of looking after is patronising and dependent and while I'll let a guy take me out for dinner or whatever (only cos every single time I go to pay, my attempts are futile no matter how strongly I protest. Its just easier to let them pay), i don't allow for them to pay for anything else to make my lifestyle better cos that's when they think you owe them something and that's when emotional and mental power games come into play.

The only time I'd allow that would be if I was married and not working. Even then, i'd have to retain independence in one way or another, probably through education.

I don't like violent or aggressive guys who like to fight or start arguments. I like and attract bad boys, but they come in many different forms that don't require tatts or a criminal record. A bad boy is someone who doesn't follow rules and it sparks my interest when I see that in a normal situation, like at work seeing someone stand up for themselves to a manager who's an a*shole makes me think, "Hmmm..there's a bit of fire in you.."
I'm attracted to raw, masculine power but I've never dated or slept with security guards, cops, hardcore institutionalised criminals, lebs or anything associated with that(not being racist here but a lot of girls are into them cos of that), kickboxers/boxers/anyone involved in martial arts, anyone in the military etc etc

I liked to be looked after in the sense that I'm so independent and strong and so busy being in control of my life that I need someone stronger than me who isn't going to break when I lean on them when I'm exhausted. My last boyfriend was great like that, I didn't have to take care of him at all. He looked after me when I couldn't look after myself, like picking me up from work after spending 10hrs dancing and making $$, take me home so he could literally undress me like a kid and put me into bed cos my body was not working. Or letting me rant and rave for an hour and waiting patiently to say calmly, "um..vic, don't you think your overreacting a little bit?" which would make me stop and think rather than have them yell and scream back, escalating the fight.

I've been taking care of myself for so long with no real support and taking care of others at the same time, these little, pointless efforts to take care me are very much appreciated.
I guess its the dad complex thing, as mine wasn't the type to hug and kiss me and left me to my own devices. There's been so many times where i've been suffering and my parents haven't noticed or cared to ask, thinking that I'm so independent that I don't need help or support.

To see the opposite in a guy is very attractive to me

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"If you have Mars in Aries, you are especially drawn to strong or athletic men and "macho" types; and have an even more aggressive inner "warrior woman" who loves action, competition, and challenges - perhaps even a good fight now and then"


I have Mars in Aries and I feel like my perfect guy is a combination of my mars, Cancer sun, Gemini venus, 8th house Virgo moon, Taurean 5th house and Cancer Juno because I do not like purely Arien men. I'm a definite warrior woman here though (with a soft sensitive watery side)- I love sports, action-adventure, war films.

Oh, and I do like guys who are athletic and aggressive/straightfoward about what they want. I just do not like men who purely Arien...I'd prefer they were emotionally supportive and intellectual as well. I know I'm asking too much in this world, but a girl can dream and the influences in my chart are scattered.

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I wish i had some needy qualities because men sometimes like a girl they can take care of but i was raised with all air signs lol

mums a gemini
dads a libra
bro is an aquarius..

My mum was extremely needy. Always wants someone to look after her and give her money and maybe if it wasnt for her i mightve been the same but i refuse to be like her. My dad on the other hand is a very strong dominant type of person but he always taught me to be independant and that i was not allowed to ever get married or have children until he seen i was standing on my own 2 feet without someones support and to get his love an attention i had to be and do exactly just that. Otherwise he wouldnt want to have a conversation with me unless i talked about work or politics or daily office talk BS.
He always said to me that no man wants to come home to a stay at home wife the rest of his life when hes out in the world learning, living and socialising that the last thing that would appeal to him was a woman who talked about cleaning and gossipping or shopping when he got home, he said that it wasnt productive and that men would get bored with women like that after a few years. He emphasised on things like honesty and that being brave meant being honest and not to do anything that would put me or my family to shame.. I could say i am like my dad alot but not as consistent as him.

I understand what you mean though and if i just had a baby i would expect him then to look after me and our baby until at least the first 2 years.. Oh I never thought about that before.. I will probably be so uncomfortable

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posted May 12, 2010 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diablo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lol this is said about what would be if we lived in a perfect world. I'm probably whiny because I haven't had a r/s for 3yrs and what some relief from the pressure of being lonely that gets worse as you get older

Truth is, I don't really accept help from anyone, even when I want to and it's taken me a few years to learn how to ask for the help and support I really need. It took me a long time to feel comfortable with the fact that we all need help and that it isn't synonymous with weakness.

Both my parents are the children of immigrants and they're both very intelligent but they're not educated. They worked instead and pushed me to do well in school and indulged my intellectual and artistic pursuits because they didn't have that opportunity.
My mum married my dad when she was 17, classic wog "get married to get out of the house" thing, especially cos she was the oldest and was an interpreter for her parents and also looked after her younger brother while my grandparents worked typical, working class labouring jobs. She was actually the smartest in school and was going to go to uni to become a nurse, midwife, school teacher or pediatrician but back in the early 80s that just wasn't an option.
She hated the fact that she was dependent and stuck with 2 kids by the time she was my age and was very frustrated, most of which was taken out on me..i guess I was one of the sources of her early "imprisonment". My mum hates the fact that she manages a cafe while her sister lives the celebrity lifestyle in England and her brother lives in South Africa on an assignment as an engineer. The resentment just seeps out of her when she comes home, tired and angry, to do even MORE work. She hates cooking and cleaning and is a prisoner of her housework.

As a child, I hated my mother and hated her for being so unhappy about having a perfect family. I hated her even more for not being the strong, independent female role model I desperately needed. As a teenager and adult (when old issues come up), I compare myself to her and she hates that and feels like I'm not validating her existance. I rebelled and used to be like, "well, unlike YOU i'm living my life and doing what I want, i'm NEVER gonna be stuck with kids in a house depending on my husband for everything"
At the same time, she pushed me to be independent, was very strict about boys and did everything to keep me away from them so I wouldn't get distracted and was just an absolute nazi when it came to school.

My dad, like I said he's the Air sign of the family who's cool, calm and collected. I could be bawling my eyes out, screaming and he'd be standing there with a blank expression telling me to get a grip on myself or just rolls his eyes in annoyance. If my antics are too extreme, then he gets angry and threatens to kick me out for being ungrateful.

He pushed me intellectually as well always saying, "A degree is your ticket to freedom", him along with my grandparents (who are both Air signs. My dad comes from a strictly Air family and I was always closest to them) were so adamant about me not having a boyfriend and barred them, I was too scared to be even seen talking to one. They encouraged me to not have a boyfriend until after I finish my degree. My grandma tells me that the married life is nothing but heartache and hardship and that I'd be better off being single and rich.

My family will be very disappointed if I don't finish my degree and become independent. They don't want me getting married until I'm over 30

We both have Jupiter in Aquarius (and my Libra moon contributes) so our conversations are about politics, sociology, business, whats in the Herald Sun, work, uni, what I'm gonna do after I get my degree, what I can do with it, how much i can make from it. We are closest when we're watching the news over dinner, debating opinions. The other night we were watching Today Tonight about the Professor who cracked the code to the pokies, cos I work at Crown Casino in Melbourne I started voicing my personal opinions and it started an hour long discussion.

My dad taught me Aquarian qualities, like fairness, justice, social responsibility, hard work, equality, that we're all one and no one is better than anyone else etc
He might not be educated but he's very smart, he's got a brother involved in greek politics (he's an Aquarian too, the other brother is a Gemini).

If it wasn't for my dad, I'd be an emotional, clingy mess like my mum who needs her husband to hold her hand to do everything. While I have certain needs, if I hadn't worked on my personal self and got a control on my emotions then I would have been like that.
Now? I say i want these things, but when they come to me, I run a mile the other way. I hate when ppl try to get too close or too romantic. Its more in their personality that I have certain needs.

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My dad, like I said he's the Air sign of the family who's cool, calm and collected. I could be bawling my eyes out, screaming and he'd be standing there with a blank expression telling me to get a grip on myself or just rolls his eyes in annoyance. If my antics are too extreme, then he gets angry and threatens to kick me out for being ungrateful.


That is my type of man. LOL Thats what i admire in men.. i like the ones who can remain calm and Id love for my husband to have that same approach with my kids.. and honeslty i needed a man or a role model like that to teach me that when im having a tantrum that theres no need to make a fuss because I needed someone to tell me i was being stupid and irrational when my water planets kicked in.

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posted May 12, 2010 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
This is just another reason why Cancer, the sign, should be re-evaluated. Because I went through many of the same things you guys have spoken of. In fact, I love my best friend but I have a strong aversion to her when she becomes dependent (mostly financially) on the various men in her life. It's one thing if you need someone to lean on after a long and rough day at work, but I think part of the reason why she's rarely ever employed is because she can find someone to pay these things for her. Want to know something even stranger? She's a Sag Sun and Aries Mars...the combo you wouldn't expect that from.

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