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soulful122
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posted May 18, 2010 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for soulful122     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Probably Aquas, I know a few who are really into their own space and doing their own things. One even goes as far as not dating at ALL to keep his freedom.

For me, I actually get pretty irritated if I feel my freedom or space is violated. I absolutely hate it when people hover. Whether I'm reading something, at work, doing my makeup, on the computer, or making dinner etc, if people hover around me I start getting cranky real quick lol. Like, BACK off will ya?

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They need their space, but you need to be in the other room lol. Thats the kind of space they need.

EXACTLY lol

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posted May 18, 2010 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Virgos. They belong to themselves and no one else, ever.

You should go by the moon because it's the first instinct.

Virgo with an Aries moon that opposes Uranus. Any attempts to cage and I will basically pack up and leave the continent (literally).

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posted May 18, 2010 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
MVM...

I agree with you completely (again)... My moon is in Taurus but it's opposite of Uranus. I have moved across the United States to get away from someone... LOL.

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posted May 18, 2010 02:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I don't even know what people mean by freedom. I mean, who doesn't like it or need it. Who doesn't need space. Being in closed quarters for too long is called prison. There's a reason why they call it that lol

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posted May 18, 2010 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Racole... yeah, that Uranus opposition to the moon will do it every time
I love you, I love you, get the hell away from me LOL

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racole12
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posted May 18, 2010 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
EXACTLY!! Ha Ha. LOL

Edit: more like, I love you, I will do anything for you... BUT get the hell away from me! LOL

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posted May 18, 2010 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for electricmind     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
aqua with a 3rd house aries moon here. moon widely trine uranus in sagittarius in 11th house.

my pet peeve is being told what to do.
i don't even take suggestion well.
i don't even want to buy a house because i'll feel trapped. i never feel like i'll be any place too long so i don't like to get comfortable. i like to throw things away so i won't feel tied down when i'm ready to move again, which will be soon.

words like permanent & full time make me run for the hills. just whisper '9 to 5' and i'll slit my wrists in agony of the thought of being at one place for that many hours 5 days a week!

good luck for me finding a husband! i think a sadge is my best match. although till this day, attract sooo many cancers (i'm cap rising) leos also tend to like me till they realize how rebellious i am, they just want me to get with their program...NOT HAPPENING!

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posted May 18, 2010 03:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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Definitely Aquarius my ex husband was Aqu rising Aries sun left me with a 3 month old bay girl and married 5 women after me and left them all lol

How awful!

This is more the aries sun than the aqua AC, though. An aqua wouldn't get married 5 times and aqua is fixed, so once committed, they *usually stay. Aries, on the other hand....they can stay, of course, but they are very fickle.

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posted May 18, 2010 03:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Electric, I'm like that too. Less so the older I've gotten but still, words like full-time and 9-5 terrify me. All the more with my Uranus in the 6th house of employment. I have had the most success working for myself and while it's not steady, at least I don't feel infringed upon.

Marriage to a boring man set me packing and leaving the country. Living in the suburbs traumatized me I believe. I have a weird thing against low ceilings, they make me feel like I'm being squashed lol.
My boyfriend who I live with is an Aqua with also an Aries moon and Moon/Uranus opposition...and he's admitted that sometimes HE'S scared I will up and leave. So I think if you've managed to strike terror into the heart of an Aqua with an Aries moon then you're probably the type to need freedom lol. But I wouldn't leave him because I like him too much (love him too) and we've become best friends. Key word being LIKE . If I like you enough, I won't leave you.

If I don't like you but just love you and you're a pain in my a$$ and want a white picket fence, then yeah, I will leave or else probably impale myself on the sharp end of the damn fence instead of having to listen to the grass grow.
I don't want someone to have freedom WITH, not FROM.

PS - I've never trusted cardinal men in commitment. Every single one of them have been a complete nightmare as far as relationship. Aries, Cancer, Capricorn, and Libra males are the sun signs I get red flags about when it comes to commitment.

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posted May 18, 2010 03:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HA ha ha.. I have Uranus 2 degrees from my 6th house cusp, so kind of in my 5th. It fits both house description... but I will not have another 9-5 job again. I'm perfectly happy with my free-lance gig job

I have Juno in Aquarius in the 9th... LOL. Talk about needing both Aqu and Sag energy in my relationship!

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posted May 18, 2010 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Racole, I have Juno in the 8th house (in Sagittarius). She's conjunct Ceres exactly.
I think I'm like my Juno in the sense that I need travel and places to explore especially in commitment. Nesting mode is fine for a few minutes, but then I want to experience new things intensely. I even think my sex drive is effected by it because I get all hot and bothered when planning a trip

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posted May 18, 2010 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Here we go with the "you need to look at the rest of the chart"
I said sag or aqua, not someone with a sun sign with.... the sign itself. :P
And MVM no duh we all need freedom but there are others who REALLY need it, it can affect them physically, emotionally, and mentally if they don't have a certain amount and feel they can do as they please.

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posted May 18, 2010 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I didn't realize that branching out from those sun sign superficial descriptions was some kind of cyber sin. Sue me.

What's wrong with looking at the whole chart? What's wrong with looking at the big picture?

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posted May 18, 2010 04:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
woah take a chill pill lol
Because.....that wasn't the question O_O

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posted May 18, 2010 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for racole12     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
ok kids... be good or no dessert after dinner! j/k (there is my Saggie coming out! LOL)

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posted May 18, 2010 04:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I'm expressing my freedom of looking at the entire chart :P

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posted May 18, 2010 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Take it another step and be free elsewhere :P

And I wasn't even saying that to you LOL

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posted May 18, 2010 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OK, ok.

It's just that I know of two Sagittarians off the top of my head who are terrified of freedom. One needs things to be very set in stone and is extremely methodical and insular. He hates travel. He doesn't want change. Schedules have to be made in advance. If you want to meet for coffee instead of tea then he starts to twitch and you smell burning.

The other is really uninterested in change as well. Really methodical as well. Very set in his ways too. Travel? Nope. Hates it. Always has, from when he was a teen. Now he's 60 and is even worse.

This is why I think it must be something really drastic going on in their charts which is making them completely NOT like that.

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posted May 18, 2010 04:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyVirgoMask     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Take it another step and be free elsewhere :P"

Excuse me?
Your subject is about freedom and needing it and yet you're trying to control the responses
So no one can post unless they are responding as to sun signs only????

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well leo sun taus asc. not generally known for freedom seekers of the world, and yet...i am and have been a leaver. married more times than i like to admit and hate being stifled.
uranus, pluto and venus in the 5th. opposing saturn.
good reason to look at whole chart.
the worse thing in the world is feeling "stuck" to me stuck = suck
i dont want to be someones well:
mother, keeper, maid
all i want is a lover and a friend and when those two dots aren't connecting, they better get connecting fast or i am outtie while you are trying to figure out what the hell just happened.

the day in day out job - i have no problem with, as it is a means to an end. financial independence is very important to me.
it means i dont have to put up with crap or being stifiled if i don't want to.

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posted May 18, 2010 04:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Theres nothing wrong with looking at the rest and branching off to see what could be influencing it as well.
What I was saying was that theres no need for people to say that you can't just look at that, since I was just asking as the signs themselves, and I think everyone should know that well DUH you have to look at the rest, unless you are just beginning and don't know there is a rest lol

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posted May 18, 2010 04:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Excuse me?
Your subject is about freedom and needing it and yet you're trying to control the responses
So no one can post unless they are responding as to sun signs only????"

Does someone need to teach you what tongue sticking out means? lol I'm not trying to control anything. So touchy :P


And a person who needs freedom can also be controlling lol
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posted May 18, 2010 04:27 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
but - my lilith is conj my mc. strongest point in my chart.

lilith isn't into suffocation, unless she is the one doing the suffocating (for real), lilith also wouldn't be obligated to remain under anyones thumb. thats not her. she is wild and free and equal. she knows it and she demands it.

lilith placenments can be very telling.

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posted May 18, 2010 04:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
How about Scorpios? Not in the relationship sense, and not in the letting other have it either lol but how they need their privacy and stuff.

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posted May 18, 2010 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deliverance     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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who REALLY need it, it can affect them physically, emotionally, and mentally if they don't have a certain amount and feel they can do as they please.

That describes me - I'm very independent & love my freedom. I *cannot* live with anyone, can't be in a relationship and need autonomy to function at work.

I'm a Capricorn Sun and Pisces Moon. Most of my planets are in the 1st quadrant and I have a very Uranian Venus.

So in answer to the original question, who needs freedom more? The answer is - I do! <sticks up 2 fingers>

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