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posted May 23, 2010 11:36 AM         

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I know quite a few would say Juno aspects, and the Magi astrologers amongst us would look at Venus/Chiron contacts, but are there any others and what have you noticed in your own experience?

I've never wanted to marry before - always almost allergic to the idea of it (natal Libra Uranus to blame perhaps?) but suddenly... I'm warming to the idea. Wondering if it's a transit or the synastry at work. Interested to hear your experiences

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posted May 23, 2010 11:49 AM         

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Composite vertex in 7th. Even better of it's conjunct the dsc. But I wouldn't say that this is true ALL the time.

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posted May 23, 2010 11:59 AM         

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I am LOVING this topic! I can't wait to see what people say...will it be sun conjunct the others moon...juno/venus aspects...chiron/venus....sun conjunct venus? ( I always thought sun conjunct venus was more of a friendship/enjoying the same things aspect)?..I suppose mars conjunct venus could be another major contender here. It's so hard to say...maybe decendant/venus? I really do think that the moon position of one partner to the others most personal planets and points is the most important factor in any long term relationship. Having said that, I can't wait to see what more knowledgeable people on this subject have to say

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posted May 23, 2010 11:59 AM         

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Yeah amowls I can see how that would make for a very destined feeling to the whole thing. Do you mind me asking if it was a 'love at first sight' kind of attraction?

This is very difficult because I don't know the exact time of birth for the other person. 'Wee small hours' is all he knows. Trying to be as accurate as possible to his personality/appearance etc but I'm torn between Taurus or Cancer rising. Wish people would record time of birth on the birth certificate!! Would make life so much easier!

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posted May 23, 2010 12:03 PM         

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Moon aspects are all great but without any mercury compatibility going on, the moon aspects don't count for much methinks

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posted May 23, 2010 12:04 PM         

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Definitely with you on the Moon contacts Angel... so important I've found in any long term relationship! I should think Sun/Moon conjunctions would come pretty high on the list - which puzzles me in terms of what I'm feeling as we have Sun oppose Moon! I love our Venus/Mars conjunct and Venus/Pluto trine and we have Sun conjunct Asc and Venus conjunct DC... if I've got his Asc correct at Taurus finally!

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posted May 23, 2010 12:14 PM         

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Seeker 3030, wow thats some nice synastry you have going with this guy! It sounds fabulous But as far as this marriage indicator thing....I think it needs to be broken down and dissected. For instance mars/venus, sun/mars, aspects for me point to sexual/physical attraction that could indicate any relationship where sex is the most important factor/main goal of the people involved. Sun/ascendant, sun/venus could point to family members that you get on very well with, close platonic friends and such. Venus/pluto, mars/pluto, moon/pluto can be a sign of obsession and compulsivness that some people mistake for love? Marriage should be about the entire package..you need to fancy each other, get on well, be friends as well as lovers and more importantly go the distance....I'm thinking that saturn sitting on anothers personal planets could help couples go the distance....after all, love indicators and marriage indicators are not the same. It's a tough one lol

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posted May 23, 2010 12:30 PM         

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I have to disagree on the sun/moon cj aspects. boring!!

As for sun/mars, i prefer moon/mars and venus/uranus. venus/pluto square over the cj and sun/mercury and mercury/mercury cj's are definitely a huge positive

Saturn is good but not in conjunct. Too restricting.

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posted May 23, 2010 01:01 PM         

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Yeah Lara totally agree on Moon/Mars... makes for amazing kisses!

I'm just puzzled why marriage has come up as a prospect so quickly in this relationship and moreover why it's not completely freaking me out like it normally does! I'm wondering if there really is something about Juno?

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posted May 23, 2010 01:11 PM         

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Out of curiosity what juno aspects in synastry WOULD indicate a marriage between two people?

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posted May 23, 2010 01:55 PM         

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Just googled and found this:

"the asteroid Juno is a significant indicator of marriage for both men and women. The wife’s Sun and Mars often oppose the husband’s Juno; the husband’s Venus, Mars and Mercury often trine the wife’s Juno."

Well we don't seem to have any of these connections (unless I've got the asc wildly wrong!) so will look at transits instead. We do have his Juno conjunct my NN with whatever permutation of the Asc so wondering whether that's the source of it.

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posted May 23, 2010 02:04 PM         

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Interesting stuff about Juno here too http://www.bobmarksastrologer.com/Juno21.3.html

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posted May 23, 2010 03:07 PM         

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as always..there are no perfect aspect for every single couple.

the best indicators for marriage i think that depends on each natals.

first we need to look at each natal and see what one and the other would see/view/ as a perfect partner.

then,compare if the other one,would show that in his/her chart.

for every single person,there is a number of things that "works",in relationships.and for others..dont.

it is a very complex thing to generalize.

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posted May 23, 2010 03:16 PM         

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Absolutely agree with you but it does seem that there are general or basic astrological trends amongst married couples and it's that that I was interested in finding out more about.

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posted May 23, 2010 03:49 PM         

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Juno doesn't feel significant to me. I would look at larger themes first, and then look at Juno later.

I also think it changes from couple to couple because what 'hooks' them into marriage would have more to do with their individual charts.
I would look at the angles and angle rulers being engaged somehow.

Plus in this day and age the term marriage may not necessarily mean legal pieces of paper, as it did many years ago.

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posted May 23, 2010 04:17 PM         

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I think I'd agree that Juno is possibly not the be-all-and-end-all when it comes to marriage indicators but it does seem to play a large part in triggering the actual wedding and in some cases even a subsequent divorce between lots of couples.

I'm the first to say that marriage wouldn't necessarily be the traditional idea of rings, dresses and legal papers however the reason I started thinking about what might signify that between two people is because all of a sudden that traditional formal blending of two people's lives seems very attractive to me, whereas before, I was firmly against it for myself. Just trying to see what's triggered that turn round and Juno seemed like a good place to start looking for the answer

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posted May 23, 2010 04:24 PM         

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My maternal grandfather's Moon in Pisces oppose my maternal stepgrandmother's Sun in Virgo, and they were married for 40 years until my grandfather's death. They had 4 children.

My exgirlfriend's Moon conjunct my Sun, and I would say that was good for us to feel that we were similar in basic ways. The conjunction in Scorpio too.

It was definitely wasn't boring. There was a lot of passion,intensity between each other.

She has Moon conjunct Saturn, and so that Moon-Saturn conjunction conjunct my Sun. Her obligations to her mom restricted,limited our relationship,and factored in it ending.

I believe that asteroid dwarf planet Ceres was a big factor too. Ceres relates to nurturing, mother stuff

She has Venus square Ceres,and my Ceres formed a t-square with it.

Ceres is highly underrated in Astrology. As a dwarf planet, it's the equal of Pluto,Eris,Makemake,and Haumea. It is the only asteroid and the only non-transneptunian that is classed as a dwarf planet, and so it's unique in that way.

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posted May 23, 2010 04:27 PM         

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http://astroinvestigators.com/marrsyn.htm
You must be talking about this.....I don't agree with these findings.....

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posted May 23, 2010 04:53 PM         

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Do you mind me asking if it was a 'love at first sight' kind of attraction?

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Well... I've only had this once and we also had DW ASC/Vx in synastry and yeah, it was an instant attraction. I saw him walk into the room and thought "I HAVE to know this guy." Of course, without other binding aspects, it's not stable. We are on bad terms now. We did make a marriage pact but a few months ago he randomly decided to tell me that he wanted to end our "relationship." GOOD RIDDANCE lol.

I mentioned the VX on the DSC in the Composite because I've noticed this with a lot of married couples I've looked at... however even if you have it with someone, doesn't mean you're ABSOLUTELY going to get married. I just think it ups the chances a bit.

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posted May 23, 2010 04:57 PM         

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Amowls, I think I did have this aspect with my ex-husband in composite come to think of it.

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posted May 23, 2010 05:10 PM         

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The best indicators of mirrage. The best you can get are very strong saturn in positive aspect for good and stable and longlasting mirrage

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posted May 23, 2010 05:11 PM         

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I think Mercury trine, conjunct, or sextile Mercury, Moon conjunct or trine Moon, and positive aspects from each person's chart and Sun ruler to the other chart and Sun ruler. Also, Sun in the 7th.

My wife's Sun, Mars, and Juno is in my 7th. Her Jupiter exactly conjunct my Venus, and her Venus conjunct my Juno.

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Gemini Sun 24˚
Libra Moon 14˚(conjunct Pluto 0˚ in 2nd house)
Gemini Mercury 25˚
Cancer Venus 29˚ (Mutual reception with Moon)
And yes, i'm a guy!

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posted May 23, 2010 05:19 PM         

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Got Gemini? How close is the orb on that venus/juno conjunction you share with your wife?

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posted May 23, 2010 05:33 PM         

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I must say, GG reminded me of Jupiter and how important it is too. All marriage topics discussed in past relationships or marriage itself has been Jupiter with Venus for me, Jupiter/Venus conjunction, closely.
Most of the time it's my Jupiter on their Venus.

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posted May 23, 2010 05:37 PM         

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Composite Jupiter to Sun/Moon/Venus aspects are usually indicators of commitment. Juno to these planets too. And their midpoints aspects too. But then it's of course important to look at the overall picture to determine the outcome, although with these aspects there's generally some desire for commitment.

About synastry, I agree with Diandra and others, that we have to look at the natal charts too to determine if a couple is what each other really seeks for, and if they are really compatible (sometimes, fitting what we really want doesn't mean we are compatible).

DD mentioned that the rulers of 5th, 7th and 8th can be good indicators of what we seek in a relationship and I agree with her. Check for the planets aspected to these rulers, and it can give us an idea of the traits in the other person we seek when it comes to light romance (5th), commitment (7th) and intimacy (8th).

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