posted May 25, 2010 04:29 PM         

they can appear to be whacky because they can have behaviors that are outside the norm.

neurodivergent traits overlap with psychiatric disorders which can lead to be medicated. I was misdiagnosed as schizoaffective bipolar disorder,and so I know about this personally.

Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd (4th in whole sign system)
my Neptune aspects:

ecliptic longitude:
square Moon in Pisces in 6th (7th in whole sign system)
oppose retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th (10th in whole sign system)
(t-square)

Declination:
parallel Mercury
parallel Venus
contraparallel Saturn
(planetary synchronization in declinations)

Right Ascension:
square Mars
square Makemake
(t-square)

Direct Midpoints:

Mercury conjunct Sun/Neptune
Mercury conjunct Neptune/Ixion
Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune

in Right Ascension:
Sun conjunct Neptune/Pluto
Moon oppose Neptune/Midheaven

Planetary Nodes

Geocentric South Neptune Node
oppose/conjunct Lunar Nodes
sextile/trine Midheaven/Imum Coeli

Heliocentric Neptune Nodes
oppose Lunar Nodes
sextile/trine Midheaven/Imum Coeli

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Supporting the Neurodiversity Movement

posted May 25, 2010 04:40 PM         

Ami"
Then whacky was not the appropriate word to use. And I didn't think it as a joke....but I didn't think you would be so serious about a few faces...... I think its your lack of earth that makes you feel ungrounded and clearly a dominate Neptune will only make that worse.

posted May 25, 2010 04:46 PM         

Do you have any aspects to your Neptune?

any direct midpoint Neptune pictures?

I have an ultasensitive body, but I don't have a Neptune in 6th. I have Neptune aspects to Moon,Mercury,Venus,Mars,and Saturn and Neptune midpoint pictures involving Moon,Mercury,Sun.

A lot of people have highly sensitive bodies and don't have Neptune in 6th.

That's why I wonder if there is anything else in the chart.

I actually have Sun conjunct Hygeia/Neptune midpoint with only 1 minute of arc.

Hygeia is a big asteroid named after the Goddess of Health.

interestingly, my biological father had stationary Neptune oppose Hygeia

so I wonder if my Sun conjunct Hygeia/Neptune midpoint is like a paternal heredity thing.

another thing to consider is that the objects that orbit beyond Neptune relate more to sensitivity and metaphysical than Neptune. After all, they orbit beyond Neptune which orbits beyond both Saturn and Uranus. Sedna has the greatest average distance of all the objects in our solar system. It seems very Neptune-like, but more remote and otherworldly.

If I remember right, you have at least one of the big transneptunian objects in aspect to your Sun which is vitality. In Cosmobiology and Uranian Astrology, it is also the physical body. They don't view the Ascendant as the physical body but as more as the environment,interactions/relationships with others.

I think it's Makemake. I think that you actually had 2 transneptunians aspecting your Sun.
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posted May 25, 2010 05:00 PM         

quote:

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Do you feel like you have to hold yourself together with safety pins or you will fly apart?

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posted May 25, 2010 05:12 PM         

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A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.

posted May 25, 2010 07:53 PM         

Saturn conjunct Ascendant is a strong Saturn influence.

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A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind.

posted May 26, 2010 04:01 AM         

x o x Ami

posted May 26, 2010 10:28 AM         

I have Moon conj Neptune by one degee in my 4th house aspecting my IC.
I have Sun trine Neptune.
My Venus and NN create a TSquare with Neptune.
My Name Asteroid and Family Name Asteroid are in Pisces and so are the majority of my Egyptian Asteroids.
My SN is in Pisces and my Descendant as well.
And my Venus and Mercury are in Pisces.
And my Saturn is in the 12th house.

I was born with rose colored glasses. My mom used to tell me that all the time as a child and I used to get so mad because I felt like she was insulting my happiness.
Neptune carries with its vibrating octave the higher level of Venus. There can be many illusions formed as we walk its halls of learning...but it is not Neptunes fault. It is our own. We chose our charts for a reason.

To explain why I say this, consider the actual symbol of Neptune.
Where did it come from and what does it mean?
All the symbols tell a story if we listen.

It is a cross piercing a moon....or matter (cross) piercing the essence of who we are behind close doors our souls personality as it were (moon). The whole idea is matter is piercing it and setting it free from the ego so it can manifest on higher levels. In the 3rd dimension this involves manifesting our Energy on a higher level than the ego.

The Cross as we all know represents Earth. The WILL existing as seperated from the Source and so in opposition to the evolution of the Soul. The Soul has not been able to run the show so to speak, instead life after life many of us have spent in alters, sectioned off from the whole of who we are and thus have been born into this life in the same manner. This affects us all, as humanity is all linked by one consciousness.
So our task this time is to master our souls Evolution...be an active participant instead of an innocent bystander.
This is what the Aquarian age is all about. We will no longer be crucifying our Souls as it were. Putting it up on a stake as a sacrifice....while our Egos cause undo chaos.

So the Energy of Neptune when considered in depth is about Personal Evolution and the Mastery of the Personality. Our Neptunian placements are areas in life where we can transcend the Ego and become the Soul Captains of our many lives.

How do we do this?
Well its starts with forgiveness, this is the process of pulling our Soul down from the Cross as it were. And intergrating it back into ourselves. This is the Essence of the Divine Feminine...its is percieved in the 3D as our emotions....and it stands that we MUST love ourselves in everyway, or the Universe will NOT show us love. That's how it goes on the Karmic wheel of life...
So it stands that we are responsible for any lack of happiness or imbalances in our lives.

It ends though with learning how to be a conduit of Love and Compassion. That is our task to be the sources of endless love and compassion.

Neptune vibrates to this frequency...it is the highest octave of love and so is known as the source of divine compassion.
While Venus says "If you love me then I will love you"
Neptune says "I will love you because I am love. And because you are alive you deserve to be loved......and no, I don't expect it back. It was a gift, and whatever I give is replenished by a never ending supply from the Source. So I don't need your love...but I will take your gift graciously ...........isn't this design that we are apart of amazing, its designed to replenish itself if we play the game right.
So our Neptune Energy is not of matter. And heavy influences of it in the chart gives natives a strong connection to the mystical side of life, they hear what the Spirit has to say once they shut there Egos up . It is up to you what you do with your Energy from Neptune. If your dealings with her Energy are negative, then it stands that it is not the Planet you should examine....but yourself....
Because Neptune is about sacrifices...no matter what area in our lives it touches. You will be asked to give up something.....the Egos hold on that area basically....you must give up something, usually very emotional and personal but the gains are huge....because as we give these things up we gain the world. Don't be the proverbial monkey with his hand in the jar....just let go. Whatever it is....
It brings to mind what Jesus said. That it would be easier to pass through the eye of a needle than to enter Gods Kingdom with Earthly possessions...he was talking about anything we hold on to, whether it be emotional or physical or mental when it is not good for us. The house and sign that Neptune is in can tell us the specific areas we need to "let go" in....as it is usually these areas we are crucifying ourselves in.

posted May 26, 2010 10:43 AM         

Ami

posted May 26, 2010 10:47 AM         

It's in my 10th house in Sagittarius and widely conjunct my MC. I am highly sensitive and intuitive and drawn to the compassionate and healing arts; in fact, I'm an empath. There is such a thing as "too sensitive" though. I cry at the drop of the hat and I'm very emotional and drive all my family and friends crazy. I always wanted to work in professions such as medicine, social work, or counseling (which I feel is my calling), but I am in the field of education. When I was younger I studied oceanography and wanted to work with animals and/or the sea...dolphins in particular. I haven't ruled out a career change though--Neptune in the 10th makes changing one's mind about work very probable

My Neptune is also square my Sun. I struggle with keeping myself grounded in reality and while highly intelligent, can give off a "flakey" vibe at times. I'm quite forgetful and absentminded. My interest in religion, the occult, and other esoteric realms doesn't help this image But I find that I am generally accepted and popular and labeled as "quirky" as an explanation.

I struggle with an addictive personality and escapism at times. So having a strong Neptune that is afflicted is definitely a challenge. Neptune is also part of a base of a Yod along with Pluto, with Chiron as the apex.

Interestingly enough, the Chiron/Neptune/Pluto yod is quite common for those born between 1981-1986. According to a thread I read on Tribe:

quote:

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That so many people have this does not lessen its significance. Rather, it like a mass movement in its potential. People born during this time are, potentially, great healers, although of course not everyone will tap into the great healer potential. Still, with the earth so full of pain and woundedness, I feel more people will be called into some aspect of the healing profession from this 6 year period than any other time in the past century.

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In short, my Neptune definitely makes me a little whacky!

posted May 26, 2010 11:52 AM         

Thank you

posted May 26, 2010 12:47 PM         

I think everybody is born with rose-colored glasses.

As infants, we are innocent and don't know anything about the material world.
We're constantly in the Present Moment,The Now.

Once a person experiences life in the material world, the rose colored glasses tends to decrease , depending on the person.
It did for me.

Being born as a multiracial part black, and neurodivergent, and not fitting male stereotypes in 1971 as well as dealing with prejudice,bigotry in connected to those things easily decrease the rose-colored glasses that I had. My experiences in special education did a damned good in doing that. I knew humans can be very cruel,and it can start off at an early age.
Being in the US Navy also helped me to decrease the rose-colored glasses as I experienced people from various parts of the USA. Growing up mixed in the 1970's,1980's,and even 1990's wasn't easy either.

I think Saturn is good for taking off the rose-colored glasses. Saturn is the planet that has to do with boundaries,practicality,structure. It has to do with limitations and restrictions.

I have a very strong Saturn influence

retrograde Saturn in Gemini in 9th (10th in whole sign house)
widely conjunct Midheaven (in Gauquelin sector .....usual placement for scientists and doctors)
oppose Jupiter in Sagittarius in 3rd (4th in whole sign house)
oppose Neptune in Sagittarius in 3rd (4th in whole sign house)
quincunx Sun in Scorpio in 2nd (3rd in whole sign house)

contraparallel Mercury
contraparallel Venus
contraparallel Neptune

I also have some direct midpoints involving Saturn

Moon oppose Saturn/Neptune midpoint
Saturn oppose Jupiter/Neptune midpoint
Saturn oppose Pluto/Node midpoint

I don't have rose colored glasses now. I am very idealistic in that I wish that everybody would get along. I believe that there should be unity and universal love. I believe in "to each,his/her own, live or let live". Through my experiences with bigotry and prejudice, I know that we are from that. Just wishing that it was so won't make it right.

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. had Moon in Pisces in 12th, and it was square the opposition of Mars in Gemini in 3rd and Saturn in Sagittarius in 9th. Therefore he also had Pisces Moon in t-square with Saturn like me. His t-square seemed like it was more about restrictions,limitations of the Jim Crow laws growing up in the South and being angry about them, and he ended up fighting passionately against them. He was a Christian minister, and his father was one too. He used speeches and civil disobedience to do that. He inspired a whole nation. He was anti-war as he spoke against the Vietnam War. In his last days, he was angry that there was still a lot of racism here in USA. He practice non-violence , and his life ended from violence of another.

He had Moon,Venus,and asteroid dwarf planet Ceres in Pisces in 12th house.

I also think the Rose colored glasses also depends on one's culture,environment,and life experiences no matter what's going on in the chart.

according to the Cosmobiology book that I have:

The influences are manifested depends upon the environment,genetic makeup,sociological-political conditions and the reaction of the individual in a positive or negative manner.

I believe that Astrology has a strong emphasis on the psychological, but it often seems to leave out the sociological. It's like the latter is too sensitive and controversal to address in Astrology that it makes one wonder if most Astrologers have rose-colored glasses.

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posted June 05, 2010 02:57 PM         

I'm still mad this happened to me, because supervisors are suppose to rotate who goes and sits with these people, and they were always seeming to call for me. I'm not a shrink or a bartender, so from now on I'll be watching the patient from OUTSIDE their room so they don't feel any prompting to tell me their life stories.

posted June 05, 2010 03:50 PM         

I have no idea what would 'make' me an empath...but there are many indicators in my chart. My Sun, Mercury, Chiron, and Juno in Cancer is a good start, followed by my 8th house Virgo Moon trined by my 12th house Neptune, and my 12th house Stellium.