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GypseeWind
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posted June 13, 2010 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
AG is so good at explaining things in a nutshell!

Sun in Sag/8th here.
I was a psych major in college. I've always been extremely interested in people and what motivates them.

It's easy for me to see through the masks that folks wear. I can look at a person and discount a major portion of what they are saying, but read them on what they are NOT saying, and their body language, facial expressions, etc.

I'm also a great detective!

I'm not a vengeful person though. I can't say I've ever been that way. I've always had a strong sense of "karma" in the sense that I do not need to do anything, people usually manufacture their own undoing.

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CrazyAquarian
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posted June 13, 2010 10:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message
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It's easy for me to see through the masks that folks wear. I can look at a person and discount a major portion of what they are saying, but read them on what they are NOT saying, and their body language, facial expressions, etc.

Funny cause she can't see through people well. I was always the one who told her what I saw and I ended up being right.

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posted June 13, 2010 11:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Was she very sheltered as a child, Crazy Aqua? I think upbringing has alot to do with that, at least for me.
I was raised around some really damaged people, so, I had to learn to read people who were impaired at a young age.
Also in my job, that is a major factor. I HAVE to rely on instincts to know when trouble is coming, so maybe I've just honed that particular trait.

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CrazyAquarian
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posted June 14, 2010 12:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for CrazyAquarian     Edit/Delete Message
Actually GypseeWind, it was quite the opposite, I really had no reason to see through people, and I was sheltered.
While I don't know all of her past, I know she has been screwed over many times and its something she would really benefit from having. And she was definitely not sheltered lol

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oneruledbymars
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posted June 14, 2010 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for oneruledbymars     Edit/Delete Message
This is an interesting discussion and a good number of Sun signs in the 8th...So I have to add mine, Aries Sun in the 8th.....and just like everyone else...I never take anyone for face value...

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jane
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posted June 14, 2010 12:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
To use an acting metaphor, the sign is our motivation and the house is the scene we're in. Sign is character and house is the actions that character is performing. (Planet is the actor with a severely limited range.)

If people have their planets in a house associated with a sign that's strong in my chart, and they lack that sign in their own charts, it's easy for me to see the difference between sign and house. They're living in that 8th house world (or wherever), but they're doing it in a way that matches their sign.

As a Sco Moon yourself, it's probably clear to you how your Gem friend is in a Scorpio scene but is acting it out very differently from how you would.

I generally love this type of affinity in synastry.

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GypseeWind
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posted June 14, 2010 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
Cool Jane! A very understandable explaination, thanks for making that crystal clear for me, 'The Ever Confused One'

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posted June 14, 2010 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cynnared     Edit/Delete Message
Hmmmmmm 8H suns here too eh? The only thing 8th house is my Mars which squares my 11th house Aries sun - opposite my Uranus in the 5th. I have an Aqua Mc and North node in the 10th.

I feel like some of the signs in my chart depending on how I am feeling..sometimes I feel strongly cancerian, some days Capricorn.

Most of the time I feel Uranian cause I'm a noncomformist and believe in my own individuality.

I have my social circle that lately I have neglected due to home matters but someday soon i'll be out there.....

Cynn

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posted June 14, 2010 12:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message
GW -

Ok, I'll play along with that self-assigned nickname. My lips are sealed!

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posted June 15, 2010 10:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BeholdAstarte     Edit/Delete Message
i have a libra sun in the 6th house. i cant really tell the influence though becuase my moons in virgo in the 5th house. i love pets and im really hobbie orientated. service wise i think its directed towards children care and volenteer work at shelters..

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posted June 15, 2010 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for evanski     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Cynnared, 11th house Aries Sun here too

So Sun in Aquarian house and Moon in Aquarius.

Maybe that's why I'm not very Arien???


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posted June 18, 2010 05:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AscTaurus     Edit/Delete Message
Sun in Sag 8H

I've been differentiating where Scorpio begins and Sag ends since I don't know when....In my case, it also doesn't help much to have a Scorpio and Sagittarius stellium.

Its not easy to describe the difference between houses and signs to satisfaction.

There are Sun in Sag 10H people I know that act like Capricorns and Sun in Aquarius 2H people that act like Taurians.

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posted June 18, 2010 07:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mir     Edit/Delete Message
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Virgo Sun in 12H.

I'm a hardcore introvert, but I dont know if that's really even Piscean 12H energy. I need 90-95% alone time to 1) accomplish the things I do, like writing or creating art/music, 2) re-energize myself, 3) think of new ideas. Physically being around people too much kills my zen.


I feel very much at home with this words, except for that "harcore introvert" because if I'm 'acting' like that it isn't no more or less THAN acting and at the same time I'm dying inside/hiding my true nature (which isn't healthy for me).
So, the lesson here (for me)is to avoid situations where I cannot be myself - in the past I thought the lesson was to fight for being MORE myself but I can now see that I was denying my 12th/true nature.
It's a difficult thing because it isn't easy to find places where you can be who you really are.

Hm..the complexity of the 12th.
There's no room for acting anymore because it almost killed me.

Spoken by Leo 12th.

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posted June 18, 2010 01:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message
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I've been differentiating where Scorpio begins and Sag ends since I don't know when....


That's how I've felt about my 8th house Virgo Moon, especially since there's a sextile to pluto. But I like Jane's metaphor above because its easier to apply now.

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posted June 18, 2010 01:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
Jane -

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If people have their planets in a house associated with a sign that's strong in my chart, and they lack that sign in their own charts, it's easy for me to see the difference between sign and house. They're living in that 8th house world (or wherever), but they're doing it in a way that matches their sign.

So, you would see how I'm acting out the Virgo qualities of the 6th house, in an Aries way? (Mercury/Sun in the 6th - and Jupiter, if you use Equal House instead of Placidus.)
I have no Earth in my chart.

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posted June 18, 2010 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WinkAway     Edit/Delete Message
Gypsee...

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I'm also a great detective!

Me too!! Must be my Sag ASC


But I'm a Virgo at the end of 9th here...

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GypseeWind
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posted June 18, 2010 08:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GypseeWind     Edit/Delete Message
LOL! Jane, Heavens To Betsy, I AM the ever confused one, not YOU, silly! See, I didn't even make my sentence clear!

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posted June 22, 2010 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ruben     Edit/Delete Message
Like other people have mentioned, the Sun sign represents the form of expression, while the house indicates the context or the area of the expression. They alter and condition each other at the same time.

I have Scorpio Sun in the 12th house, which kind of contradicts my sun sign. But it doesn't really affect my scorpio impulses. I see it as balance.

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posted June 22, 2010 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Ruben
Could you elaborate some more on your previous post--if you could?


Thanks so much,

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Ruben
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posted June 22, 2010 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ruben     Edit/Delete Message
Which one do you mean, Ami?

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Ami Ann
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posted June 22, 2010 08:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Well, could you explain your Scorpio impulses--as you feel them.
Also, how does a 12th house sun feel to you---if you can lol.


Ami

PS I am trying to reclaim the Scorpio parts of myself. That is why I am asking

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posted June 22, 2010 09:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ruben     Edit/Delete Message
Ah, well, the truth is most people tend to think I'm softer than most Scorpios, LOL. And I blame that on the 12th house influence. I do think it makes my approach softer, but that's also because of my Saggi ascendant and Mercury conj. ascendant.

Being a 12th house sun is confusing really, it carries most Neptunian influences. I think it made me more introverted, though Mercury conj. ascendant provides balance in that sense. It definitely makes me more reserved and I think it has an effect on my body, too, in the sense that prolonged activity can drain me and I sometimes need periods of solitude to recharge.

It also makes me feel more in touch with my spirituality, so I can't complain.

What are your placements?

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posted June 22, 2010 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message
Ruben, I have a Scorpio ASC with Saturn conjuncting it--bleh.
I have Gemini Sun and Mercury in the 8th house. Cancer moon is in the 8th ,too.
I have an unaspected Gemini Venus who thankfully is in the 7th house
I have Pluto conjunct MC , Pluto sextile Mercury, Pluto sextile the Sun and Pluto trine NN.
You seem like you know more about Astrology than I do, Ruben.
I have only been studying for about 8 months.
Do you have any sense about my placements.I accept total honesty .

Ami

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posted June 22, 2010 09:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ruben     Edit/Delete Message
Gemini Sun with Scorpio ascendant - wow, now that's a contrast!

I can see why you might feel that your Scorpio side is suppressed with Saturn conjunct your ascendant, but I think it can potentially be a source of strength. Both Capricorn and Scorpio are typically strong signs, they express it in different ways though. Also, planets in the 1st house tend to modify the expression of the ascendant since they carry the influence of the sign they rule.
Moon and Mercury both in the 8th house - that sounds like balance to me.

As for Pluto conjunct MC, all I can say is, if you ever plan on becoming president, I'll vote for you.

To be honest, I sense mixed influences from you and from reading your posts. I could sense Gemini the most, and maybe a hyperactive side. I kind of feel that you have a strong instinctive nature that you probably learned to control, because it feels slightly conditioned. I get the feeling that sometimes you want to react in a certain way, but you pull back and repress certain parts of your personality. And you seem very receptive to the outside world, maybe to the detriment of your inner nature.

That's not astrological analysts though, it's just a feeling. So I'm not sure.

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posted June 22, 2010 09:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for seeleah     Edit/Delete Message
I have a 12h cancer sun...so cancerian with a picese twist? it makes sense why I have so many picese in my life...besides the fact that we are trined...I seem to understand them better than most of my cancerian friends. Idk.

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