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GrlyGirl20
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posted June 25, 2010 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I have an Aquarian ex whom we broke up with in Jan, and we had still dealt with each other over the course our semester. Nevertheless, he had always been hesitant to be friends. Moreover, I was never sure why. He would always say things are awkward between us. I never understood why.

Well over the course of us dealing with each other we would occasionally get emotionally close and he would say he felt things for me, but then he’d become super distant the next time I saw him, and say he didn’t want a gf/or to feel anything for anyone. Well he graduated college two months ago, and I was moving out of state for graduate school. Well I told him that am thinking of school in the south, and if I did, I would like to try again. Obviously, in Aquarian fashion he did not say anything but we still chatted a bit. Well he and I have not spoken in a few weeks, due to me being busy in summer school.

However, I ran into a friend of his and told her that I was going to graduate school in California (we go to school in the south) and that I was intending on moving in a few months. Well I do not know what happened but he all of a sudden deleted me on face book. I did not realize he and I were on bad terms. And when I called him, he answered the phone and then hung up. I was like wtf!! I was trying to figure out why. But I just never understood why this Aquarian can’t be my friend, and why he would be mean to me all of a sudden, then say I‘m amazing. I just don‘t know what I did to him for him to hate me so much.

My Aquarian Moon friend says that it‘s the opposite. That when an Aquarian can‘t deal with you, and goes flat out of your way in the capacity he has done with me. It‘s because he‘s hurt, and doesn‘t want to deal with seeing me, especially after I apparently told him I was going to school close by, and then he finds out I‘m not. So that is why he is mad at me. I have an 11th house Venus, and can see that…but does this logic make sense to other Aquarians? Thanks.

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posted June 25, 2010 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My Placements/my date of birth: July 3, 1985 at 5:34 Am in Bellflower, CA

Asc: Cancer
Sun: Cancer in 1st
Moon: Cap in 7th
Mer: Leo in 2nd
Mars: Can in 1st
Jupiter: Aqua in 8th
Sat: Sco in 5th
Nep: Cap in 6th
Uran: Sag in 6th
Pluto: Sco in 5th

His placements/time of birth: Feb 16, 1987 in Charlotte, NC at 5:12 AM

Asc: Cap
Sun: Aqua in 1st
Moon: Virgo in 8th
Mer: Pisces in 2nd
Venus: Cap in 12th
Mars: Aries in 3rd
Jup: Pisces in 2nd
Sat: Sag in 11th
Uran: Sag in 11th
Nep: in Cap in 12th
Pluto: Scorpio in 10th

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posted June 25, 2010 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

what are the degrees,minutes for those sign placements


I can't tell if anything is in aspect without knowing those

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posted June 25, 2010 07:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I had a hunch that transiting Neptune is conjuncting his Sun in Aquarius


from what I see in his chart:

his Sun is in 27'11 Aquarius, and transiting retrograde Neptune in 28'32 Aquarius is conjuncting it.

I see that transit as being "WTF?" in the scratching one's head way. This can be a possible time of confusion because right now his ego boundaries are being dissolved, and so he doesn't know where ends and others begins. He is more sensitive,receptive right now. There is possibility of confusion,deception,and illusion that he has to avoid.

It's probably a good thing that he is not making any serious decisions right now with transiting retrograde Neptune conjunct his Sun. The retrograde Neptune transit has an introspective quality, and so it can be a good time for him to go within himself and soul search.


This guy seems like quite the free spirited,progressive,unconventional and unpredictable person, especially when it comes to his emotional nature,feelings,women

He has a close t-square of Uranus in 25'54 Sagittarius square the opposition of Moon in 26'31 Virgo and Jupiter in 26'40 Pisces that indicates that.


so that earth,practical,analytical Virgo Moon of his highly modified by the hard aspects to Jupiter and Uranus

the t-square has a corresponding midpoint picture

Uranus oppose Moon/Jupiter midpoint with 41 minutes of arc

that means that independence,change combines with the integration of emotional nature,feelings and expansion,judgment


He has Sun in 27'11 Aquarius sextile Mars in 27'06 Aries which indicates his self expression,ego works with his assertion,passion

but his Moon quincunxes that sextile so the self expression,ego and assertion,passion are in strain with his emotional nature,feelings,women

he has a yod which indicates an opportunity to make adjustments. a yod is viewed as being a fated configuration

Moon quincunx Sun-Mars sextile
with a corresponding midpoint picture

Moon oppose Sun/Mars midpoint with 37 minutes of arc

it means that the emotional nature combines with the integration of self expression,ego and assertion,passion


so the Moon is involved in 2 aspect patterns which aren't known for being easy. It can indicate difficulties with dealing with his emotions, women

Sun quincunx Moon can be a real difficult aspect because there can be a disconnect between his masculine and feminine energies which could make it hard for him to be in relationships. Of course, his Moon in t-square with Jupiter and Uranus doesn't help either for it can indicate restless,freedom-loving nature that could have hard time settling down.

even his Midheaven conjuncts Moon/Uranus midpoint with 46 minutes of arc

this means that his aim in life,career combines with the integration of emotional nature,feelings and independence,change


He has Mars in 27'06 Aries trine Uranus in 25'54 Sagittarius which indicates assertion,passion in harmony with independence,change

His Sun sextiles that Mars-Uranus trine
so his ego,self expression works with his assertion,passion,independence,change

That's a minor grand trine and it has a corresponding midpoint picture of:

Sun conjunct Mars/Uranus midpoint with 41 minutes of arc

this means that his self expression,ego combine with the integration of assertion,passion and independence,change

There can be a sudden,impulsive,aggressive to his personality. He could even be hyperactive. It can be a great aspect for having quick reflexes.

this could easily account for him being able to identify with Sun in Aquarius


with all this strong Uranus influence, there is no wonder that he can relate to being an Aquarian

He also has Neptune conjunct Uranus/Ascendant midpoint with 37 minutes of arc

that means that dissolution,inspiration combine with the integration of independence,change and approaching life,relating to others

That configuration could be a "WTF???" in a scratching your head and shocking

there can be a surprising sensitivity about him. it could be good for being creative


His Venus conjunct Neptune/Ascendant midpoint with 48 minutes of arc

that means that his love nature,values combine with the integration of dissolution,idealism and approaching life,relating to others

he could be very confusing,hard to pin down in his love relationships and how he relates to others

it could be good for being romantic and artistic


I really don't put much emphasis on zodiac signs and houses. I focus a lot on the geometry - the aspects. I believe that they show a lot.

This guy has some strong aspect patterns.

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Grly - When I first read your story, on the FB thread.. I got bad vibes about him. I told you it sounded fishy that he didn't want to change his status and the whole "story" about 3 month-long relationships.

I think he clearly wanted sex with you from the beginning. I think that was his goal. Maybe this is his Aries Mars? He's fairly young, as I remember, and maybe he is displaying the negatives of this.

I am sorry if any of this sounds harsh, but this is my honest opinion about the situation - having read it back then and having read you posting a few times about it..

I think he was never interested in a friendship with you or anything long term. I think that his "crying" and seeming soft was more or less acted out - courtesy of his Neptunian influence. He was physically attracted to you and he had a plan - He went with the plan. He got what he wanted and he walked out - at the 3 month mark (as usual).

The reason he told you about the "3 months" is to make himself feel less guilty about being a player.. "Well I did *tell* her.. She had a warning."

So basically this guy is scum and he is not able to SEE you as a person.
Even if your synastry was great otherwise - the synastry couldn't play out- if he chooses to ignore your personality and treat you as a means to what he wants (which seems to have been sexual satisfaction).

Again - I am sorry if this was harsh.. but generally reading your posts I developed a negative vibe and a negative opinion of this guy. I could be wrong since I don't know him personally.. but this is the way it comes across to me.
And in fact I started to think something along these lines as far back as the FB thread, which is why I was telling you then to put your foot down.

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He had always been hesitant to be friends. He would always say things are awkward between us. I never understood why.

Because he probably felt guilty and wanted to wash his hand of the situation. (If what I think is right).

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he all of a sudden deleted me on face book.

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he answered the phone and then hung up. I was like wtf!! I was trying to figure out why.

Again - if my feeling is right... Then the reason is that he got what he wanted from you - and he just wasn't interested in anything else. So he is immature and a jerk.
But it could also be a "guilt" factor.

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I just never understood why this Aquarian can�t be my friend, and why he would be mean to me all of a sudden, then say I�m amazing. I just don�t know what I did to him for him to hate me so much.

I think your existence reminds him how much of a jerk he is.

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hat when an Aquarian can�t deal with you, and goes flat out of your way in the capacity he has done with me. It�s because he�s hurt, and doesn�t want to deal with seeing me

I wouldn't think this is the problem.
This is a guy who has serial - 3 month relationships - as I remember it. I mean, obviously it's pre-planned.
Lots of guys do this kind of thing.

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why he is mad at me

I doubt he's mad. He's probably ashamed of his behaviour.. and at the same time doesn't want to acknowledge his guilt.
If he doesn't see you - he can carry on being jerk to other women.
If he did see you - it might make him feel bad enough to actually "change" - and he doesn't want to change.
As I remember you did have good synatsry. maybe he feels a possible threat of being tied down - and having to give up his player-style.

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Lol I know a guy eith the EXACT same placements as your bf and he pulled that crap on me as well (and refuses to tell me what I did wrong). I am an Aqu sun as well, and I don't cut people out of my life the same way that guy does. In fact I avoid confrontation all together unless you have REALLY ****** me off and should know better (like my crazy ex who is the only person I have ever deleted on Facebook... but I told him why I don't want to speak to him).

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I think he clearly wanted sex with you from the beginning. I think that was his goal. Maybe this is his Aries Mars? He's fairly young, as I remember, and maybe he is displaying the negatives of this.

Ehh. I disagree vapor. The astro twin of this guy IS a fiend but he lets his guard down and then gets scared and gets distant. He has Moon square Saturn and Uranus (maybe your ex bf has this too?). He does have a lot of sex partners but he is not all about sex. Basically he wants love and he does have feelings for you but his ego won't allow it. I always used to tell the astro twin that he reminds me of Patrick Bateman lol.

Anyway, the guy I know (who was born on the same day as your ex) does this with every ex ofhis. He may or may not come around and it does take time. He just did it to his most recent girlfriend and she's been depressed about it. She really wants to be friends with him but I guess he can't handle it.

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Amowls - Does the guy you know expressively tell his new gfs that most of his relationships last 3 months?

Because that is a classic player thing.
I know at least three other men who say something along these lines. It's their "excuse" later, when they think: "I told you so".

From my perspective if you begin a relationship with a man - with warnings like that from him... you can't expect much. But that's just based on what I've seen.

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Well.. the longest that he's ever dated someone was 9 months. And it's not really bragging if someone tells you that, it's honesty.

The one I know is an emotionally stunted a-hole, for sure, but it's too simple to call him a player.

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posted June 25, 2010 10:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I agree...with the statement about the really good synastry. I have been dating someone else for a bit, and stay friends with all my exes. And thought eventually he and I could be, after the emotional cloud cleared. But with this situation I'm actually scratching my head as I did nothing to bring this on, other than chat with a friend of his.

Dynamite I actually disagree with you. He has some weird hang ups about sex. I actually think it's his Virgo Moon that is causing him to have the hang ups. Around the time we first met he had found out I was abstitant (he thought I was until marriage) and he was all over that. And he has always made comments about his friend ( a guy) being a male sl*t.

Plus we only had sex once, and in that time he didn't finish the job for himself so to speak (he's on antidepressants...so it stunts his ability to "arrive" so to speak).

I actually don't think he's a player, I think he has the ability to be. But he's a strange guy.

Amowls: The longest this guy has dated someone was three years. They broke up when she cheated on him, and she broke up with him 4 times. And he took her back each time. He DEFF has trust issues, and he has a fear that if he isn't there the person will find someone else (she was long distance). Since then all his relationships have been short. They ended two years ago.

"Saturn and Uranus (maybe your ex bf has this too?). He does have a lot of sex partners but he is not all about sex. Basically he wants love and he does have feelings for you but his ego won't allow it. I always used to tell the astro twin that he reminds me of Patrick Bateman lol"

Amowls: Actually he has these placements lol...and he has a Sequisqure (sp)I believe to Pluto as well. All I know is he is pretty screwed up, and yeah he won't be friends with his exes...even the one of three years. She dumped him, and found someone else three days later...that she's been with since they broke up, and she's marrying him.

I do have a question...what do you think I can do. I have told him I had feelings for him in the past, he'd go cold and weird on me. But if I wanted friendship he'd also do this...it's like a no win haha. How do you deal with someone like this. I'm not even sure what I did. All I did was have a convo with his friend and say that I'm moving away.

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posted June 25, 2010 10:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amowls:

The guy you know...can he EVER be friends with his exes? My Venus in 11th can't imagine not being friends EVER...after I get over it I don't hold on to the relationship. But certainly after the cloud of emotions is gone he can deal with them. Or can he not. Does dealing with him make him feel more than he wants. Thanks.

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Grly - I don't know this guy. You know him in RL, so maybe I misinterpreted. This wasn't based on his chart btw, just things I remember reading about it here.

I don't have a better explanation for his behaviour. The synastry doesn't tell me much, because I always thought it was great synastry. The Moon-Venus and Moon-Moon connections & his Pisces + your Cancer.

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posted June 25, 2010 11:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I was wondering about any feedback on what I told you

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posted June 26, 2010 12:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

I looked at the synastry

His Sun in 27'11 Aquarius is square your Venus in 27'00 Taurus.

That's a very narrow Sun square Venus. It's only 11 minutes of arc.

The way that I do Astrology, I view the narrowest orb aspect to be the strongest theme in a synastry. Sun square Venus is the narrowest orb aspect in the synastry between you and him.

Sun square Venus means that his ego,self expression and your love nature,value systems are in friction with each other

right now ,
Transiting retrograde Neptune in 28'31 Aquarius is conjuncting his Sun and squaring your Venus for a shared experience transit.

That can indicate that the great challenge of that close Sun square Venus is getting exacerbated by potential confusion,idealism,deception.

Neptune is dissolving the boundaries of his ego and your love nature which make both so hard to pin down that it can be confusing.

It can be very romantic time ,but there can be too much idealism that can be a set up for disillusionment. The romance can be built on illusion and deception.

This same transit was going on when you two broke up back in January of this year. Neptune was direct.

Your Sun in 11'30 Cancer oppose his Venus in 12'44 Capricorn. That indicates that your ego,self expression and his love nature,values are at odds with each other. It can be a romantic attraction aspect, but it involves the need to balance.
Issues can be aggravated when planets square your synastry Sun-Venus opposition for a t-square synastry transit.


even though your moons are trine by sign and aspect, I don't really think that you two are emotionally compatible with each other.


As I pointed out earlier, he has a t-square of Uranus squares Moon-Jupiter opposition which indicates an emotional nature that is restless,independent,freedom-loving.

You have Moon trine Venus and Moon sextile Saturn which indicate an emotional nature that is security-oriented.

so even though your Moons are compatible by sign and are in aspect to each other, the emotional natures seem very different according to each person's natal lunar aspects.

I think that it's always good to check the natal dynamics before looking at synastry and composite. An astrologer told me about that back in 2001.


His Neptune is 38 minutes oppose/conjunct your Ascendant/Descendant axis which can indicate that the energies of his Neptune can dissolving your personal/relating boundaries but there can be possible confusion,deception,illusion.


His Saturn squares your Midheaven/Imum Coeli with 1'28 orb, and this indicates that the energies of his Saturn can structure your aim in life,career,domestic environment,unconsciouslife but there can be restrictions and limitations. That's not a synastry aspect that Cosmobiologists want to see in a synastry. In Cosmobiology, Midheaven is the most important point that represents the ego consciousness, "The I",the soul.


Your Moon squares his Mars with 2'17 orb, and this indicates that your emotional nature,feelings and his assertion,passion are in friction with each other. This could indicate emotional passion, but it can also indicate feelings of anger. You can be easily upset by his actions. Your nurturing can rub him wrong the way that he feels that his independence is threatened.


His Mercury squares your Uranus with 52 minutes of arc, and this indicates that his thoughts,communications and your independence are in friction with each other. It could indicate that communications is very unstable and that communications can sudden disruptions. It could seem that when you talk to each other, you can be so out of sync. He might even feel that his nerves are frazzled with your Uranus supercharging his Mercury.


Your Sun square his Lunar Nodes with 40 minutes of arc, and this indicates that your ego,self expression and his emotional associations,connections are in friction with each other. It could indicate that you can be incompatible with his spiritual path,destiny.


I checked the composite chart

there is a t-square of Jupiter in 6'11 Pisces square the opposition of Mars in 6'30 Gemini and Saturn in 5'46 Sagittarius
That can indicate assertion,action and discipline,structure are at odds with each other and in friction with expansion.
There can be frustration,anger which can be connected to expansion,freedom being restricted,limited.

That's a strong t-square with all the aspects being under 1 degree.


Mars in 6'30 Gemini quincunx the sextile Neptune in 4'37 Capricorn and Pluto in 5'57 Scorpio. That's a yod. That indicates that assertion,passion are forced to adjust with the idealistic,transformative energies. Sacrifices of an evolutionary nature might be made which can lead to anger.
Saturn opposes Mars. That's a boomerang. A focused yod.


There is an opposition of Sun in 4'21 Taurus oppose Pluto in 5'57 Scorpio, and this indicates the ego,self expression and intensity,power,transformation at odds with each other. There can be power,control issues,jealousy,trust issues, manipulation.

Sun trines Neptune and Jupiter sextiles both. A minor grand trine. It's a highly idealistic configuration. It can be inspiration,spiritual,optimistic. This aspect can indicate the possibility of hope for something better in the relationship.


Pluto's fellow transneptunian dwarf planet, Eris is in 16'03 Aries conjunct/oppose Ascendant/Descendant axis in 13'52 Aries/Libra and closely square Midheaven/Imum Coeli axis in 15'47 Capricorn/Cancer. This could indicate challenges involving diversity and equality. There can be much discord and controversy.


Moon in 25'40 Scorpio oppose Mercury in 24'47 Taurus. This indicate that the emotional nature of the relationship and the communications in the relationship are at odds with each other. Head vs heart issues.

There are definitely some challenges in both synastry and composite. The emotional natures seem very different with his Moon-Jupiter-Uranus t-square indicating freedom-oriented and your Moon aspecting both Venus and Saturn indicating security-oriented.


free will is the ultimate factor though

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posted June 26, 2010 01:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Oh no I deff agree Glaucus, as far as romance goes...he and I deff don't mesh. But I don't see the reason for him deleting me. Or getting angry...we are just friends at this point. And even if he doesn't consider us friends, we are deff not a couple. Or even close to being a couple. But that's still no reason for you to up and pointlessly delete someone. Afterall we only haven't seen each other in a short time, like two months. To be honest I've never had an ex delete me months after we broke up except in the case of the Scorp with Aqua moon who we were hanging out (as friends...I thought) and apparently he had feelings for me and I didn't realize it. That's why I'm baffled. Is this how Aqua's handle stuff...they just delete you after not talking for a few weeks?

I'll also add Glaucus...you are deff right about me needing emotional security. BUT I also need passion and intensity...big time!!! Moon square pluto...and yes it isn't close...but it's deff stronger than my need for security or anything else in my chart. My practical Cap Moon has behaved SOOOO intensely because of that poor placement lol. I'd rather have passion and no security than have security and no passion hands down.

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posted June 26, 2010 01:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
"Is this how Aqua's handle stuff...they just delete you after not talking for a few weeks?"

I don't know if that's reflected by the Aquarius

it could be reflected by his t-square of Uranus square Moon-Jupiter opposition

he has other strong Uranus configurations.


I checked his solar arcs and secondary progressions

Solar Arc Uranus recently started conjuncting/opposing his Ascendant/Descendant axis. The orb is now 28 minutes applying. I use an orb of 30 minutes applying and 30 minutes separating.

It indicates a period of time of sudden changes,unpredictability involving his approach to life and relating to others.


Solar Arc Saturn is conjuncting his Venus with with 23 minutes of arc separating, and that can indicate structuring,disciplining,restricting,limiting his lovelife. There is possibility of coming off stern.


Solar Arc Moon is squaring his Ascendant/Descendant axis with 8 minutes of arc separating, and indicate that he is more more emotional in his approach to life,relating to others. A strong emphasis with matters involving women.


His secondary progressed Venus is square his Pluto with 2 minutes applying right now. It could indicate intensity,transformation involving lovelife,relationships.
It could indicate a time of elimination involving the lovelife.


BTW...he has a very strong Pluto influence with his retrograde Pluto conjunct/oppose his Midheaven/Imum Coeli with only 28 minutes of arc. evolutionary intensification,transformation,intensity is a dominant theme in his life.
Secondary Progressed Venus is squaring that. He's been having it going on at the time you two broke up.


His Moon is progressed in Leo in 7th house, and that could indicate a time for romance,relationships.

even if he is not with you, he might eventually get into another relationship, especially with secondary progressed Venus square his Pluto-Midheaven/Imum Coeli configuration.


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GrlyGirl20. Lol..I recognize your aqua man from my own on and off relationship who ended for a year ago. He was one moon and venus aqua and have his sun, saturn and chiron in pisces. His mars and merk was in aries..

My pisces mans behaviuor was almost the same as you describe your aqua man but my pisces man always comes back to me in some way. The time we was togheter was marvellous but after a while he react exact as your aquarian man. He react and I answer on the same way. I've moon,venus,NN, mars in house 11 so my behaviour was not easy either....

Now my pisces and moon/venus aqua man are engaged to one another woman but he help me to renovate up my new flat. He and a friend to him help me and did so good job and I'm so thankful to him...

His new girlfriend don't like he help me and I understand that and I also told him he must should be care of her..He are new engaged and has been in my flat the last 4 weekend.

For me I feel it was the best he find a new gf because the behaviour between us was a pattern which I guess still going on if he not find her. We couldn't breake off the pattern of the behaviour we had between us..

The love it's not easy. Love are feelings and feelings are not easy..

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posted June 26, 2010 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it all depends. Like he didn't speak to his ex girlfriend for almost a year but I think they're fine now. He told me he was "moving on from our relationship" back in October (we weren't dating) and I asked him what relationship and he was like "any relationship that we had, have and will have in the future" lol. He was in Finland at the time for a semester and this was totally out of the blue as I had not spoken to him in 2 weeks. He refused to tell me why, so I was like okay fine, jerk. Then he deletes me from Twitter and Facebook like a month later. BUTTTT he made it a point to get my number when he came back to the states and he has texted me a few times to ask dumb questions that he could easily google for. Plus I see him every now and again and he always feels the need to greet me. The only thing I ever did to him was start to date his friend, which he encouraged. Maybe he was jealous that I was hanging out with his friends while he was miserable in Finland? Who knows.

I think if you reach out to him he'll come around eventually. I haven't really tried to mend things because I DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I DID.

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posted June 26, 2010 12:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Amowls...you sound EXACTLY like me. From the sounds of it I'd say he was mad you were dating a friend of his. If he wasn't over you that's probably what made him angry. And he may have encouraged you dating his friend as a test...not that he actually wanted you to do it. Depending on if he has water in his chart or not. But from the sounds of it...he is DEFF not over you.

I know if I reach out to him eventually he will be nice. He's always been that way...but I guess at some point I thought the emotional back and forth would end. And I know he'll keep my number. We broke up a while ago, and as far as I knew we were over. So this baffled me. I don't have an Aquarian Sun but my Venus/NN/Pallas/Lillith/and Psyche are in the l1th...I happen to feel the 11th house Venus VERY strongly. I'm either in the middle of my Moon Square Pluto obsession...or my 11th house Venus detachment lol). But his response has just baffled me. And at this point I don't know if I want to reach out. He always seems to respond like a child...and to be honest I'm just like I've given in before. I don't want to now. And he's probably mad that I talked to a friend of his, or am moving. Something upset him. I thought that Aquarians aren't petty...I've actually never seen one behave like this before. I've always seen them as being sort of "above" childish or petty or jealous behavior. So I'm a bit thrown for a loop. And I've NEVER seen one delete someone from something before. In fact most of the Aquarians I know are pretty stoic...you can do whatever or be annoying and that doesn't effect their behavior or them doing anything. They seem to not do things out of emotion, like deleting someone is because of an emotion. And most Aquarians I know wouldn't do that.

I do know Glaucus that he is deff more intense than I give him credit for. He does have a tendency to do things in a swift motion...and for it to be very extreme. He thought that I blocked him on yahoo answers of all the places lol...so he went and completely blocked me. When all I did was make my profile private because I asked personal questions. And yes I know he'll date someone soon...he might even be talking to or dating someone now...but I still don't see why he had to delete me. It's childish and petty.

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posted June 26, 2010 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nine     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Aqua Sun guys, from the threads on this board, are notorious in the dating pool. Strike one.

From a numerological perspective, birth # 16 is developing quite a bit of notoriety in my files. This is the fourth incident I've come across on this board where someone born on the 16th was the source of major heart/headache. In my personal life, I know two an Aquarius-Sagittarius & an Aries-Aquarius. A common characteristic I've noticed is they seem to be bad break-uppers.

With Neptune as ruler of this birthday, there is always some sort of deception going on. Of course, the can be so gentle, and giving, and sensitive at the beginning you're completely shocked when this ugly side comes out.

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posted June 26, 2010 02:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well, it's not always the Aqua influence. I'm an Aqua myself and I don't behave that way, and Aqua is pretty strong in my chart. My guy is a Scorpio Rising and according the Pullen method, his strongest signs are Pisces, Capricorn and Sagittarius.

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He does have a tendency to do things in a swift motion...and for it to be very extreme.

Lol describes the dude I know to a T.

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posted June 26, 2010 02:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Benedict Moon*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Maybe he's been trying to cut you off for a while and finally got the spine to make a clean break? Not everyone likes to remain friends with their exes, for a number of good reasons. He's probably been trying to get over his feelings for you and figured he can't do it if he's still in contact with you. It doesn't mean that he'll stay away forever, but maybe just now while the feelings are still fresh. I would know since I have the same 8th house Virgo Moon.

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posted June 26, 2010 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Ann     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Grly,
You don't have to answer if you don't want. Just ignore this lol.
Did you have a parent from whom you kept trying win love/approval/validation but you could not get it no matter how hard you tried?

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posted June 26, 2010 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaucus     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
your exbf is not just a Sun in Aquarius though.

I don't know why people focus so much on sunsigns and objects in signs in general.
I believe that the aspects is the mainstuff. Zodiac signs change according to what zodiac that is used,but the aspects remain the same. Aspects are the main focus in Cosmobiology too.

To me, it's all in the Geometry.


I pointed out your exboyfriend's aspect configurations that indicate a far more restless,unpredictable,changeable nature compared to just having Sun in Aquarius alone.

the guy has a t-square of Moon,Jupiter,Uranus. You can't get more freedom loving,restless,unpredictable,and independent than that on an emotional level and relates to women.


also Benedict made a great point.

I can concur with the point.

I got dumped by my exgirlfriend on April 2, 2008

guess when was the last time that I had contact from her?

April 2, 2008! After she broke up with me, I never had any contact with her again.

She totally cut me out of her life in a Plutonian fashion,and so I was dead to her. It hurt a great deal for a long time. There was a lot of heartache and tears. It's really made me jaded about love,relationships.

I thought to myself "Why the hell did I waste my time with that b-tch? What an idiot I was!", and I was regretting that I even met her. I realized that she and I just weren't meant to be together. She didn't share my love,caring for children and desire to have them nor did she share my desire to help others including especially my neurodiversity advocacy. She and I are on different paths.


She didn't have Sun in Aquarius.

She had Sun conjunct Mercury in Aries. She also had Mars in Aries. All in the 1st house. She had Pisces Ascendant.

She had Moon conjunct Saturn in Scorpio conjunct Pluto in Libra with a corresponding midpoint picture of Moon conjunct Saturn/Pluto midpoint. I believe that configuration indicate her ability to cut somebody out of her life.

She didn't believe in staying friends with her exes.

a factor in her breaking up was that she has strong emotional bond with her mother who has issues with men because her exhusband(my exgf's father) screwed her over big time. Therefore, she believes that all men can't be trusted and she raised her daughters to think that way. She got mad at her own daughter for telling the truth about her relationship like she was being betrayed. Her issues were so bad that my exgirlfried kept our relationship from her mother. Even though my exgirlfriend told me that she loved me numerous times, ultimately she didn't love me enough to stand up to her and defend our relationship and fight for it. She gave up on our relationship.
In my point of view, she never loved me at all. This was a woman who was so jealous and possessive that she didn't want me being friends with other women.
Ironically, she wasn't possessive enough to want to keep me forever no matter what her mom says. That was a possessiveness that I preferred the most.

I was involved with an a gal with Sun,Mercury,and Venus in Aquarius. She and I are still friends. She has Moon in Pisces like me. She has Neptune conjunct Ascendant. She is very kind,sweet woman. She worked with special needs children, and now she works with special needs adults. It was her work with special education needs children that attracted me in the first place, and it even made me correctly suspect her moonsign is Pisces. She also is Dyslexic and ADHD like I am, and so she's a neurodivergent. I felt more connected to her when she told me about that. She is very spiritual too. She is into New Age stuff.

I broke up with her because I couldn't forget the past. She rejected me for a dude who was so charming, but he had darkside to him including being an alcoholic. It took her 3 years to realize the mistake that she made. Then she was interested in me again, and I got interested in her again. I pushed her away only to be persuaded by her own exhusband to give her a chance. I did, but I had problems trusting her. Therefore, I ended it with her. She eventually found somebody else, and she's married woman. She still cares about me,and I still care about her. She and I will always be friends.

so I don't think that ending friendships is all about being Aquarius.


also if he cuts you out of your life that is his right, and there is nothing that you can do about it


sometimes, I think I see a double standard

it's ok for a woman to cut a man out of her life, especially when the relationship is over

it's not ok for a man to cut a woman out of her life, especially when the relationship is over


I honestly think that males and females are more alike than not alike.

Maybe because I am a male with strong female energy and high estrogen levels, I just don't see much difference betweem males and females.

I don't fit traditional male stereotypes, and so why was I subjected to my exgirlfriend's mom's prejudices???

She should have judged me based on the content of my character and not because of my gender.

I am a friggen feminist. My exgf once told me that I am more of a feminist than she is.

I have Sun conjunct retrograde true Black Moon Lilith with 21 minutes of arc.
I was born exactly 5 years after National Organization for Woman (NOW) was found. Therefore both NOW and I have Sun conjunct South Eris Node/Earth conjunct North Eris Node. To me, Eris means diversity and equality and not just discord and controversy. Of course, striving for equality can lead to discord and controversy due to people who don't want things to change but remain the same even though it infringes on the rights of others.

I believe that males and females are equal. I believe that female is not the weaker sex. I believe that females can do things just as good males can and even better.

I also believe in reincarnation and pastlives. I believe that all of us had some pastlives as both sexes. I believe that the soul has no sex.


BTW I have Mars in Aquarius which is the dispositor of my Sun,Mercury,Venus in Scorpio,and South Eris Node. It squares my Venus.

I see it as more about being an activist and being passionate about rights,equality and angry about injustices. This is part of what drives me to be a neurodiversity advocate.

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A Different Mind Is Not A Deficient Mind. http://www.facebook.com/#!/group.php?gid=131944976821905&ref=ts

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posted June 27, 2010 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GrlyGirl20     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I think I should add I don't think the Aqua deleted me out of spite. I think he deleted me out of he just doesn't want to talk to me anymore/I'm not in his life anymore. It makes sense. And I can see that, afterall he graduated from college. I saw that he deleted a few other people on his facebook, so it's not that it was just me. I think it was out of the fact that we are no longer communicating so he just deleted me. And when he deleted me he doesn't want to talk to me either (him answering then hanging up the phone). I think that's more of a probable scenario than him feeling stuff still and not being able to deal with it.

I'll be honest, I'm really hurt over this. It feels like all that time I cared for him and took his crap he summed me up to being so unworthy that he doesn't even want me as his facebook friend. I think that's the point I'm not admitting...how hurt I am by this.

And yes Ami...my dad left when I was 5. I do notice that I always feel that I have to work for someones love. I have my Venus also contacting Saturn. But with this guy he even said I was an amazing friend, and gf, an amazing person. So why was it so easy to chuck me out of his life then. And not even regard me as worthy enough to stay friendly to.

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posted June 27, 2010 01:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I know anything about the astrotwin of this guy is that he is severely out of touch with his feelings and acts out in childish ways (as in deleting people from facebook). If he honestly did not care, he would've just left it alone. How many friends on Facebook does he have anyway?

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'll be honest, I'm really hurt over this. It feels like all that time I cared for him and took his crap he summed me up to being unworthy enough to even be his facebook friend. I think that's the point I'm not admitting...how hurt I am by this.

I feel you sister.

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