posted August 17, 2010 10:24 PM         

No, none of my statements came from a chart review, sorry i didnt mean to mislead you.

posted August 18, 2010 12:53 AM         

Don't try to make yourself feel,
or stop yourself from feeling.

And don't blame yourself.

There are so many potential reasons
for the things you mention, letram.

You'll be unraveling them your whole life.

Also, lack of feeling in one direction
does not necessarily inhibit feeling
in another direction.

For instance, Aquas are often criticized
for a lack of delicacy in personal matters,
but they may have tremendous sensitivity to
people they have never met before.

Nobody can have every gift.

Discover your gifts,
and learn to love them.

And don't beat yourself up
for the things you lack, and
were never meant to give.

posted August 18, 2010 05:26 AM         

Jane,

thanks for pointing that out. I always perceived that "swinging" as a personal flaw of myself, like I was letting others down all the time; it took me some time to figure out that this was just natural. Feelings ARE NOT the same every day, every moment. "the only thing constant is change" (from the musical "Jekyll and Hyde").
Now I am working on expressing this, too.

A part of me wants feelings to be absolute, never changing, always on a high, always at the most intense, most passionate, most magical. A mix of Neptune and Pluto probably.
The intensity would probably be hard to live in everyday life though. lol

But I stopped perceiving it as a personal "failure" that my feelings are NOT of the same intensity all the time.

Letram,

I don`t have a "recipe". Probably everyone has to find their own way, and maybe this way will not be the same everytime.
I do think though, that acceptance plays a very big role.
What Valus wrote: "Don't try to make yourself feel,
or stop yourself from feeling."
nails it for me.

posted August 18, 2010 05:31 AM         

I was looking at the astrological aspects and placements you pointed out:

Moon:
Aquarius in 2nd house
peregrine
exactly quinkunx Saturn

Venus:
Capricorn in 1st house
square Pluto
square Midheaven

5th house: Taurus on the cusp
no planets inside
ruler of 5 is Venus in Capricorn in 1st house
5th house ruler squares Pluto and Midheaven
5th house ruler squares 12th house ruler
5th house ruler squares 11th house ruler
This alone points to a problem I guess!
5th house ruler in Capricorn in 1st house; 11th house ruler in Libra in 10th house.

11th house:
Scorpio on its cusp
Uranus conjunct 11th house cusp

ruler of 11th house is Pluto in Libra in 10th house
11th house ruler squares Venus
11th house ruler sextiles Neptune, NN and ASC

11th house ruler squares 5th, 6th and 10th ruler
11th house ruler sextiles 3rd house ruler

posted August 18, 2010 07:44 AM         

Ami

posted August 18, 2010 07:58 AM         

It only had one 8 degree conjunction with Mars.
I FEEL, if you could say that, that it is unaspected.
With Letram--my thought was an unaspected moon, too

Thanks for any help!

Ami

posted August 18, 2010 08:15 AM         

I think the Fire signs have the most to offer me as far as being different than who I am.

I have no earth in my chart but earth does not seem as foreign as fire.
Maybe, Saturn in the first provides earth energy.

Fire is a wonderful ,foreign kind of element to me even though I have 2 fire planets.
Fire is the least integrated element for me, I think.

Ami

posted August 18, 2010 08:43 AM         

Raymond - I'm stealing your shrugs, because it is just the cutest thing!

posted August 18, 2010 11:21 AM         

I think Mercury certainly plays into it.

posted August 19, 2010 02:39 AM         

Ami,

Thank you.

posted August 19, 2010 03:33 AM         

moon in gemini
I've moon square saturn 3
moon square merk 1
moon square uran 2
moon square pluto 6
moon conj nessus 0-1

venus gemini conj N.N cancer conj mars cancer

venus/NN/mars trine saturn

I've atleast a stop now as I not had when I was young. When I was young I marriage me 2 times in short time. The first not last in long time but my second did and I think is becuse saturn.

Today it does not matter how big my feelings and passions for a man are, I want more than feelings and sex. There are so much more as must be good between two people.
My saturn have learn me to think twice times before I make to do something.

My AC conj Sun in leo are also a part to my love life.

posted August 19, 2010 08:54 AM         

Anyway, yours is in the 8th house which must be an interesting placement for it.
I have an 8th house stellium as you prolly know by now

I would think Jupiter would want to take 8th house ideas and bring them forward in a big way.
That sounds like you

Ami

Please keep it up cuz I want to look at it some more

Ami

posted August 19, 2010 09:09 AM         

quote:

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Dear Dyn-a
There is an answer as to how the two can be reconciled i.e I think two seemindly different ways.
HOWEVER, you may not like to look at parts of yourself that will come out as a result of my answer.
I do not want to get in another fight and so if I tell you, I want your word that it will simply be a discussion and will not escalate in to anything more.

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I was only confused because you referred specifically to your 4 posts as "true" - In these posts you were saying (first of all) that my words were not helpful, and that I want to be "right" rather than helpful. At least one person (the starter of the thread) and also AG did seem to find my words helpful. So your post confused me.

Secondly - you said something about fire signs which I guess may apply to both myself and Letram since he has a fire sun and moon.
But again - it is off topic and I guess we all have our personal truths... but ultimately it did not ring close to home for me. If anything my exploding would be more like your crying(a very positive and healing release that clears the air). So I can't see the analogy here.

Honestly Ami - It is entirely beyond me what it is that you want from me here, and why you are discussing this on Letram's thread.

posted August 19, 2010 10:02 AM         

Ami

posted August 19, 2010 11:30 AM         

Unaspected? I reduced the orbs, so the opposition to the Moon, which is a little wide, isn't clearly indicated, but you can see Jupiter trine Mercury/Mars, squaring Chiron, and squaring my Stellium. My Jupiter is in aspect to everything except Saturn, Pluto, the Nodes, and the Ascendant.

posted August 19, 2010 11:45 AM         

I feel quite certain that when I do unearth the things I have pushed down i.e. repressed, I will be done with the seeming never ending searching for who I am.
The 8th house is the house of repressed things, as you probably know.
You need to unearth the energy of the planets.
The planets have a late(or never,sometimes) maturation.
I think I will know when I have found what I need.Then,I will move away from the 8th house and go on.

x o Ami

posted August 20, 2010 04:19 PM         

x o Ami