posted August 21, 2010 03:38 PM         

x o x Ami

posted August 22, 2010 01:52 PM         

x o x Ami

posted August 22, 2010 01:58 PM         

x o x Ami

posted August 22, 2010 02:15 PM         

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Wow, Ami... got to meditate on this a bit.
In the meantime, here's a song that I think kind of relates... first love... transmutes to ... ideal love... that heartbeat to heartbeat contact that even hard science is trying to prove as critically important for neural growth. Kind of Neptune, unconditional, exalted Venus, take all your troubles away.
[URL=http://www.youtube.com /watch?v=06NmutNGF44&feature=related]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06NmutNGF44&feature=related[/URL]

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Thank you (((Mermaid)))
x o x Ami

posted August 22, 2010 02:21 PM         

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Moon in Libra (Venus in Pisces in the 10th) in the 5th. Opposite Jupiter, trine Mercury & Chiron, sextile Mars, inconjunct NN.

My mom had me when she was 33 and it was a complicated birth... The doctors couldn't detect my heartbeat so the did an emergency c-section. My mom almost died. They did a stress test on me and I exhibited normal stress levels so I was fine in the womb. I guess their machine malfunctioned or something. Anyway, I'm my parents' only kid. My mom worked my whole life but she was always there to see my ballet recitals and plays. She dotes on me, she still gives me money lol. She also loooooves to hear gossip from me and always asks about my boyfriends and stuff. We have a good relationship.

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Dear Amowls
So, you are saying all your moon aspects are good.
The inconjunct NN is not bad, per se, just maybe not an understanding between you as far as your goals.
Do I have it right?

Thanks very much,
Ami

posted August 22, 2010 02:25 PM         

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Moon in 9th cnj MC in Gemini...

LOL I tell this story a million times around here. My mother is psychotic.

Moon conjunct N.N
Moon trine Saturn
Moon trine Pluto
Moon trine Ceres
Moon Sextile Venus
Moon opp Neptune

When I was younger I was physically abused alot. Then when I got older I was verbally and mentally abused.

I think my nice aspects are going to play out when I have my own children. I think they are there to support me to be a good mum.

My mum in no way is a 9th house type of person either, she is just a fruit loop with an addiction to many things. She is weak, over sensitive, unforgiving and evil.

My mum just 2 days ago sent me a message saying that she kicked my cat out and all her food bowls and found it amusing that my cat was hungry and meowing for food.

She will use things that mean the world to me to get back at me, but in return I never felt the tiniest bit of love for her. She tells me that she hopes I die and that she won't even be coming to my funeral. She has stolen money off me and my grandmother and attempts to kill herself when she sees no way out of things. She was not my first love in any way. I don't remember loving her as a child either. I never missed her when I didn't see her when she left me and my brother to our grandparents.

She tried to burn my legs when I was younger in year 4, and when I got molested by her friend my mother did nothing. She pretended to be this protective mother and that I was the best child to other people when really it was like a horror movie at home. I got beaten up every day and though some people in my culture see this as discipline I was traumatised. I have some great genes and a great Saturn-pluto conjunction in my first house which kept me together.

Anyways bottom line is.. she was in no way my first love. My grandmother was though.

Would Saturn trine Moon show support from grandmother?

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Dear Belgz
You are right. I don't understand why you have such good moon aspects and such a hard, hard mother.
Perhaps, the moon could show MOTHERING such as a grandmother.
It would have to in such a case as yours( and mine too) cuz I have a Cancer moon/unaspected though.
I think your case makes it such that you cannot say good moon aspects equal a good mother.
That is my take on it, anyway.

May you recover everything she took from you, Belgz

Ami

posted August 22, 2010 02:37 PM         

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I have moon Piseces in the 12th house. It is in opposistion to ready, mercury, venus, uranus, and pluto. Trine neptune.

My mother was not a mean, malicious, cruel person. She never intentionally hurt anyone and I guess considering her own very bad upbringing she did the best she could.

That said. My mother was a selfish, drug addicted, alcoholic, ***** . And though she was murdered in 1985, it was the lifestyle that killed her. She lived in California and I lived across the country so I don't know exactly what happened. I get two different stories.

One was she was found with her head bashed in a back alley because she owed the wrong people money.

The other is she was found with her head bashed in at the apartment of her boyfriend. They were both messed up on who knows what and they got into a fight and he killed her.

Don't know which one is true. The only fact I know is her head was bashed in and she died a couple of days later when they took her off life support.

To be honest, when I heard the news (I was 15) it surprised me to no end that I cried. And I cried at the funeral too. So, I guess I loved her but even then I had no respect for her. I mean this is a woman who had sex with the guy of the week while I was sleeping in the same bed.

The woman who had two awesome kids and just gave them away because she wanted to live her life style. I'll give her some credit for keeping us with family. I was with my paternal grand parents (definitely got the long end of the stick with that one because my grandfather was the greatest man I've ever known) and my sister was adopted out to my maternal aunt. Though to make things 'easier' they decided in the great wisdom most of the adults in my life seemed to have, that at 4 years old when it happened I was to forget she was my sister and refer to her as my cousin and she only being 2 wouldn't ever know any different if everyone kept with the plan. Such ignorant people, the lot of them, I'll tell ya. I won't even get into what that did to me emotionally.

Then 8 years later she decided to have two more kids. That time she stuck around, sort of. She lived with the kids and their father but she wasn't 'with' him and just went and did her thing.

I lived with her and the other two kids for about a year whe I was 14. I was with those kids so much people in the neighborhood thought they were mine. The only reason she wanted me there was so she could have a built in babysitter while she went off and did her thing. Though sometimes she took me with her. Like the time I got to watch her make out with some guy in his pool. That was awesome-yeah.

Funny thing is I remember as a little girl after she left she was the most important person in my life just because she was my mother and she wasn't there. Took a couple of people who were there for granted at that time.

There are times I wonder what it would be like if she hadn't died. What our relationship would be like. I don't know. I'm pretty much the opposite from her. I don't do drugs, rarely drink, I can count on two hands the sexual partners I've had and I can give your first and last names of well, most of them. I have one child that I had at 33 years old and much of my parenting is based on what would my mother do and then I do the opposite. It's worked out quite well.

I don't hate my mother. She was messed up and like I said she did the best she could and I learned a lot about how not to conduct your life and how not to parent, from her. Under the circumstances we were really better off not being raised by her. It just saddens me that she had a choice-the lifestyle or her kids and she chose the lifestyle both times. Oh, well, what are ya gonna do.

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Dear Pisces Moon
I am relatively new to Astrology( 8 months) so I am not that good with understanding what aspects mean.
It would SEEM that you have a hard moon and it may have shown your relationship with your mother.
It is in the 12th house in Pisces and opposes so many things.
I am so sorry for what you went through with her. Man, that was hard, hard, hard.

Ami

posted August 22, 2010 06:08 PM         

Mother dearest was not able to care for me as she was quite mental from what happened to her growing up. All she ever did was push me away. I know somewhere in there inside, she does love me, I just can't receive it at this late stage of my life. Too much has happened & it's left me scarred.

posted August 22, 2010 06:15 PM         

I was sitting here feeling very alone.
My next thread
IF you had a bad mother did you marry her ?

Ami
PS Significant others count.

posted August 22, 2010 06:52 PM         

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Ami, did you mean "would you marry her"?
HELL, NO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ami

posted August 22, 2010 06:56 PM         

Ami

posted August 22, 2010 06:57 PM         

There are many of us out there who have toxic relationships with our maternal figure.

Check out this website when you have time.

http://www.daughtersofnarcissisticmothers.com/

posted August 22, 2010 07:05 PM         

I have been on that site and another one. I am at the bottom of the class Ami

posted August 22, 2010 07:08 PM         

Ami