posted August 20, 2010 11:17 AM         

Please talk about your moon sign/house/ it's aspects .
DOES it tell about the relationship with your mother?
Please give as many details as you are willing.

Ami

posted August 20, 2010 11:42 AM         

You see, I am a complicated, strong and just a bit difficult to handle, and it is as if I was incarnated to be raised by someone who can handle that energy with grace and love. My mother, honest to god, is an angel. She is not just loved by me, but by everyone in her community. She is kind, gentle, caring and pleasant. Yes, she is human so she will have her days, but nothing gets that woman down. She heals people (she is a nurse) by her mere presence. I am in awe of my mother and I feel quite honored to have been born to her. It feels like I shared a life with a spirit like Ghandi, or something. That's how in awe I am of her. She is other worldly in her grace, love, intelligence and her lack of Ego. Wow!

I see God within my mother ALL THE TIME. I can't forget the magnificence of life if I am around my mother. She is amazing and I always tell her. I love her so much, words can not describe. I am officially a mommy's girl due to how wonderful she is. God Bless her! I am so grateful to have been born to her.

She's definitely my first love.

I have Cancer Moon conj MC
Moon sextiles Sun
Moon trines Mars
Moon Square Saturn
Moon Square Pluto

P.S. Now for the astro...

If Mother is represented by the Moon, then my mother plays a very important part in my life because the Moon is at the highest place of the chart, the Midheaven. Fortunately, this worked positively for me because I can bet that there are some who have Moon cnj MC who's mother's played important roles in their lives but in a negative way.

The Moon in my chart is in harmony with my personal planets so my mother and I are also harmonious on a personal level. Where I see the squares play out is where discipline is concerned. My mother was not good at ruling with an iron fist. She pretty much let me figure things out myself patiently, whereas someone else would have ordered me to do or not do certain things. I could have saved myself a lot of grief if my mom was strict, but probably not. I was not disciplined well, it is true, but I soon got the point. I wasn't outrageous though. I was one of those kids who did well at school, behaved well and treated people with respect, but behind the scenes I was drinking, doing weed and experimenting with whatever I could get my hands on.

posted August 20, 2010 12:29 PM         

Moon in Leo, 10th House

trines Sun, Mercury, Saturn in Sag, & Venus in Scorp

oppose Aqua Jupiter (wide 8-9°, but still felt)

square Scor Pluto

quincunx Cap Neptune

contraparallel Sag Uranus

parallel Cancer MC

I remember always trying to get her approval for the first few years of my life, but besides that, I don't remember much of really liking her, let alone loving her. She was pretty warped back then, I didn't even like her opinions. At one point she tried to teach me not to play with certain kids because of the color of their skin. Even at age 5, without knowing what racism meant, I secretly disagreed with her and continued playing with whoever I chose.

I do love my father though. My father always loved me & my brothers unconditionally. I adore him lol.

posted August 20, 2010 01:01 PM         

Thank you

Ami
PS Soulful--Do you have better Sun (father) placements/aspects than moon?

posted August 20, 2010 02:51 PM         

...oh the dark side of the moon ... I survived the trip.

I've got:

Moon Taur 9th Square Venus 5th
Moon " opposed Nept 3rd

so mother's
Venus
Mars
Saturn all in Aqua square my moon

Her Chiron conj my NN 1 degree
Her Scor Asc. oppos my Moon
I noticed she has a Jup/Ur oppos Lib/Ar

I'm sure there's more ...

posted August 20, 2010 03:30 PM         

Ami

Ami

posted August 20, 2010 09:01 PM         

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PS Soulful--Do you have better Sun (father) placements/aspects than moon?

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Yeah Ami, I do!

Sun trines Moon, conj Merc, Saturn, Uranus, sextile Jupiter, Asc, parallel Neptune, & IC.

But I also have Sun opp Chiron, quincunx NN.

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First, I must state that I am at a place of forgiveness on my end with my mother issues. I can't control her thoughts. I can only live by having healthy boundaries and breaking the chains of bondage so to speak.
I do have some hard moon aspects and looking at her chart is bringing much into the light.

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Mermaid, I loved what you said there. I feel like I am going in that direction too, with one feet in the door and the other feet out (for my own safety atm lol). One day I'm sure I'll be able to walk through it and shut the door behind. I can't really check the synastry in depth between my mother and I, BUT after talking to her about her bday recently, I found out she was born on a Friday, in January, or so she says. I already knew she's born in 1961 so I put in the data at Astro to check and waddaya know, her Saturn squares my cardinal Mars the entire month of her birth. That explains a lot. (& btw I'm not saying Mars square Saturn in synastry = doomed, that was just one example of one of my experience) Her Chiron also happens to squares my Venus as well.

Anyway, I gtg, I hope you girls have a good nite!

posted August 20, 2010 09:40 PM         

LOL I tell this story a million times around here. My mother is psychotic.

Moon conjunct N.N
Moon trine Saturn
Moon trine Pluto
Moon trine Ceres
Moon Sextile Venus
Moon opp Neptune

When I was younger I was physically abused alot. Then when I got older I was verbally and mentally abused.

I think my nice aspects are going to play out when I have my own children. I think they are there to support me to be a good mum.

My mum in no way is a 9th house type of person either, she is just a fruit loop with an addiction to many things. She is weak, over sensitive, unforgiving and evil.

My mum just 2 days ago sent me a message saying that she kicked my cat out and all her food bowls and found it amusing that my cat was hungry and meowing for food.

She will use things that mean the world to me to get back at me, but in return I never felt the tiniest bit of love for her. She tells me that she hopes I die and that she won't even be coming to my funeral. She has stolen money off me and my grandmother and attempts to kill herself when she sees no way out of things. She was not my first love in any way. I don't remember loving her as a child either. I never missed her when I didn't see her when she left me and my brother to our grandparents.

She tried to burn my legs when I was younger in year 4, and when I got molested by her friend my mother did nothing. She pretended to be this protective mother and that I was the best child to other people when really it was like a horror movie at home. I got beaten up every day and though some people in my culture see this as discipline I was traumatised. I have some great genes and a great Saturn-pluto conjunction in my first house which kept me together.

Anyways bottom line is.. she was in no way my first love. My grandmother was though.

posted August 20, 2010 10:12 PM         

My mother was not a mean, malicious, cruel person. She never intentionally hurt anyone and I guess considering her own very bad upbringing she did the best she could.

That said. My mother was a selfish, drug addicted, alcoholic, ***** . And though she was murdered in 1985, it was the lifestyle that killed her. She lived in California and I lived across the country so I don't know exactly what happened. I get two different stories.

One was she was found with her head bashed in a back alley because she owed the wrong people money.

The other is she was found with her head bashed in at the apartment of her boyfriend. They were both messed up on who knows what and they got into a fight and he killed her.

Don't know which one is true. The only fact I know is her head was bashed in and she died a couple of days later when they took her off life support.

To be honest, when I heard the news (I was 15) it surprised me to no end that I cried. And I cried at the funeral too. So, I guess I loved her but even then I had no respect for her. I mean this is a woman who had sex with the guy of the week while I was sleeping in the same bed.

The woman who had two awesome kids and just gave them away because she wanted to live her life style. I'll give her some credit for keeping us with family. I was with my paternal grand parents (definitely got the long end of the stick with that one because my grandfather was the greatest man I've ever known) and my sister was adopted out to my maternal aunt. Though to make things 'easier' they decided in the great wisdom most of the adults in my life seemed to have, that at 4 years old when it happened I was to forget she was my sister and refer to her as my cousin and she only being 2 wouldn't ever know any different if everyone kept with the plan. Such ignorant people, the lot of them, I'll tell ya. I won't even get into what that did to me emotionally.

Then 8 years later she decided to have two more kids. That time she stuck around, sort of. She lived with the kids and their father but she wasn't 'with' him and just went and did her thing.

I lived with her and the other two kids for about a year whe I was 14. I was with those kids so much people in the neighborhood thought they were mine. The only reason she wanted me there was so she could have a built in babysitter while she went off and did her thing. Though sometimes she took me with her. Like the time I got to watch her make out with some guy in his pool. That was awesome-yeah.

Funny thing is I remember as a little girl after she left she was the most important person in my life just because she was my mother and she wasn't there. Took a couple of people who were there for granted at that time.

There are times I wonder what it would be like if she hadn't died. What our relationship would be like. I don't know. I'm pretty much the opposite from her. I don't do drugs, rarely drink, I can count on two hands the sexual partners I've had and I can give your first and last names of well, most of them. I have one child that I had at 33 years old and much of my parenting is based on what would my mother do and then I do the opposite. It's worked out quite well.

posted August 20, 2010 10:16 PM         

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My mum just 2 days ago sent me a message saying that she kicked my cat out and all her food bowls and found it amusing that my cat was hungry and meowing for food.

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posted August 20, 2010 10:52 PM         

Scorpio

posted August 20, 2010 11:41 PM         

I don't know much about my birth or my infant years, probably because I didn't ask much. Mom was in her mid-20s when she had me, and I wasn't really planned either. If my intuition does not fail me, I believe I'm probably the reason mom and dad were rushed to be married. I have no feelings for or against it whatsoever; just a product of the culture. They divorced about 10-12 years ago, and I have no feelings about that either.

My relationship with mom has had its normal ups and downs, but other than that it's pretty straightfoward and very supportive. There have been cultural issues (we immigrated here a long time ago from a totally different country), but thankfully without the psychological BS that I've heard of others in similar situations deal with. She always took care of basic and emotional needs when we were younger, and even now she's just always there when we need her.

I used to think she had a Pisces Ascendant until I figured out that the time she had was wrong, which sucks because that was a perfect explanation for some what I percieve in her as being really clueless sometimes (My Moon also trines Neptune). But then again, she has an aqua moon and I have met other people with that same placement and they drive me up the wall for that same reason. Don't get me wrong: she (and they) can be reallly selflessly humanitarian at times, but also completely clueless when it comes to people's inner motivations, feelings, and other crap. She'll INSIST in that very fixed way that I'm mad/annoyed/upset about one thing, when its really something completely different. *SMH* I'll just never understand air mooners in general.... and I live with a whole family of them. They're great for intellectual exchanges, but other than that they drive me up the wall.

People seem to have a problem with being at the mercy of mom's ego, but I've never had that problem and I think that's because my moon is actually the same sign as her sun. The only time I ever feel that is in the case of the house (in my chart) that my mother's sun emphasizes. Her sun conjuncts my South Node in the 9th house of religion. The constant fight has always been to get me to go to church and be a good Catholic, where as I don't think any of that is neccessary as long as you have a good *inner* spiritual relationship with God or whoever you happen to worship. I actually enjoy being at church on Christmas and Easter, but other than that...forget it. The screaming kids that people refuse to take to the cry room just get in the way of the experience. I believe you can find the divine almost anywhere, and not just in a building with a cross on it.

Moon in Virgo/8th house

posted August 21, 2010 11:35 AM         

"An Attachment Disorder is when a child can't attach to the mother."

Maybe I have that lol, seriously though, she just scared me too much back then for me to even want to attach to her.

"It is very hard to trust people later in life."

I'm like that Ami, especially when I first meet new people. I'm very cautious (can be due to all the Saturn aspects in natal). Not only does my Venus conj Saturn, but my Venus/Saturn midpoint = Venus. I can never find myself liking or trusting someone RIGHT AWAY, no matter how GREAT, charming, popular, or funny they are. Never have I liked or loved someone I can't respect. Trust is earned, which is why I've hung out with the same girls for YEARS. My boyfriend is opposite, he's very social, loves meeting new people, has no probs trusting others, people tend to like him right away. Thank god he complements me, balance is good in a relationship. I never thought the way my mother treated me had anything to do with how I trust, but maybe it has Ami.

Belgz, my childhood sounds very similar to yours, though I've never been molested, I'm sorry you went through that. I would kill anyone who would touch my child that way, I can't believe your mother didn't do anything.

"Would Saturn trine Moon show support from grandmother?"

It might be, my Moon trines Saturn as well. I was raised by my grandmother too, along with my dad.

On a lighter note, I'm sure our moms would get along great. Maybe they should go out for bellini's.

posted August 21, 2010 01:27 PM         

My older brothers are a lot older than my 20 & 12 years apart. I was raised like an only child for the most part. I would describe my relationship with my mother as one filled with fantasy and dreams. She encouraged me to dream and to be bold. I recall many days hand in hand with her exploring, talking about her childhood, gazing at flying airplanes wishing to be on board flying to some distant locale. Our world was beautiful & honest between the 2 of us with very little strife.

But add in the energy of my brothers or my father in particular and our fantasy world filled with peace would just crumble horribly and instead of being my ally,my mother would attack me instead of standing with me. Needless to say this caused difficulty as I grew older.

Pisces Moon in the 3rd Squaring Sun/Asc, Venus & Uranus.

posted August 21, 2010 02:53 PM         

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My Moon is in Sag in the 6th house it forms a grand trine with Sun, Venus, and North node in Aries, Mercury in Taurus, trine Saturn in Leo, I have Cancer Ascendant, so Moon is my chart ruler, oppose Uranus and sesiesquare Pluto, she was there for me but with money she was not the kind to show love, she did show her love to animals, I just think she is cold, when I was a child she was very pushy, she allways wanted to be right, she has Sun Conjuct Pluto in Cancer. She is allways thinking what other people are going to think about her, she is a very suspicious person, allways thinking the worst I like to think the best of people
Mercury square Jupiter, I also like to show my love to people Venus square Jupiter

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I am in my element--problems with mothers

Ariescancer
I would like to ask you a few questions, if I could.
First of all could you explain how Mercury square Jupiter and Venus square Jupiter feels to you.
I am new and am trying to learn.

On the issue of mothers, it seems like Sun conjunct Pluto in CANCER would be a disconnect.
Cancer is so opposite Pluto, as I see Pluto.
Cancer is the sign of the mother, warm fuzzies, warmth, loyalty etc
Pluto is the id, primal protective part i.e. animal that fights to the death

I can see how those would make for a crazy situation.
If you could explain more about how it played out ,in a practical way,I would appreciate it.
If these questions are too annoying, forget it lol

x o Ami

posted August 21, 2010 02:59 PM         

I don't have your e mail address, Amowls, or I would write to you, too lol

x o x Ami

posted August 21, 2010 03:07 PM         

I have Sun trine Neptune
Gemini Sun in 8th house which is not good ,really,in the sense that it is a repressed Sun but you can get it out with time lol
My Sun is 28 Gem which is Betalgeuse which is supposed to be the most favored star
I do feel like I have Jupiter influence cuz God(to me) gives me wonderful things such people coming in to my life at just the right time and seeming to really love me.
I have had this since I was a child.
It has not failed ,yet.
When I have reached the end, some form of an angel will come in

x o x Ami

posted August 21, 2010 03:22 PM         

x o Ami

posted August 21, 2010 03:25 PM         

Thank you
Ami