posted September 15, 2010 05:36 PM            

I demand absolute loyalty from my closest associates and intimates. Petty slights from acquaintances don't bother me but even the slightest betrayal from friends or family sends me into a tailspin. Admittedly, betrayal can be something as simple as not agreeing with me when I believe I'm on the side of truth and justice.

But betrayal is my worst fear! I am so paranoid and suspicious, I hate this about myself. I demand absolute loyalty and when someone is not loyal it's like a dagger to the heart, especially since I am so incredibly faithful to those I love. If they are wrong I will gently counsel them towards the path of right but I would never publically or openly disagree with them about something. And in matters of the heart your loyalty better be unquestioned or else. Boy oh boy can I hold a grudge!

I am a Virgo, I thought we were supposed to be fairly even-tempered but I'm not at all. I'm passionate to the point of volatility. I know my Taurus Moon makes me very fixed and stubborn and perhaps determined to always be right, but what makes it hurt me SO BAD when I feel as though someone has betrayed me? And why is it so easy to see betrayal in the smallest things?

If you are my friend, family member, or lover I expect you to be on my side in an argument and if I have an enemy it's like "How DARE you take their side. Get out of my life you traitor!" The only way to get around being exiled is if you have tried to talk to me about it calmly or rationally and decided to remain neutral. But if you exhibit the slightest inkling of favoritism towards the other party I get sooooooo mad.

I know I sound like a tyrant and maybe I am, because if I could make everyone in my life sign an oath of allegiance I would.

I am absolutely and unquestionably loyal and expect you to be loyal in return. Period, the end.

This just doesn't jive with what I know of Virgo and mutable signs, this attitude that I have, it has to be something else.

Does anyone else feel this way or am I just loony?

posted September 15, 2010 05:49 PM            

Raspberri---Ok. I was thinking maybe it was the Mars in Leo but maybe not, there seems to be a consensus about Earth/Water. Which is interesting because earth is supposed to be so...steady. Water I can understand because of the emotional element. I have a really foul temper, I think I need anger management I'm ashamed to say. I hold stuff in to long and then it comes out in these devastating explosions of rage and everyone seeks shelter because they don't know where it's coming from. I feel awful about it.

posted September 15, 2010 06:20 PM            

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Are you guys saying this because you have had experience with these signs or because you have placements there?

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posted September 15, 2010 06:22 PM            

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I exhibit some of the traits but I feel like a failure at being a Virgo LOL.

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posted September 15, 2010 07:47 PM            

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Water and Earth signs do, generally.

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I would agree with this

posted September 15, 2010 08:07 PM              

And I usually give them two middle fingers.._V_

Im loyal if we can see eye to eye..not eye to arse..

I am Virgo Sun in 8th, Pisces Moon in 3rd, Capricorn Rising Saturn in Aquarius 1st house Rx

posted September 15, 2010 08:07 PM            

My ex was a cancer sun with scorp moon... But he cheated on me.
He had merc and venus in gemini. Merc and Sun in third house lol. Venus conjunct mercury.

His moon conjunct pluto in 7th house in scorp so I guess the gem influences are really strong.

posted September 15, 2010 09:58 PM            

8th house is coming up a lot. I am wondering if this is more a Pluto issue than I originally thought. I have Venus in Scorpio in the 8th house & Pluto in Libra in the 8th but I was ignoring Venus because this isn't just a romance thing, it's how I approach life in general.

Pluto/8th house/Scorpio/Taurus...hmmmm. The 3rd house has been mentioned a few times too.

posted September 15, 2010 10:01 PM            

I guess loyalty to me is just someone I can COUNT on to be there through thick and thin - someone who really gets me. It's important to me that they are reliable.
What puts me off most is - if someone seems unreliable or self-centered and not holding up their end of the friendship. For instance - if they are always asking for help but refusing to help me when I need something myself.

posted September 15, 2010 11:01 PM            

I just cant mess with more than one person.. i want to give that one person all my attention, even if, I dont have strong feelings...

I cheated on one boyfriend, I felt sooo guilty I broke up with him two days later... I couldnt stand the guilt...

posted September 16, 2010 09:58 AM            

I know a lot of Capricorns and I would have to agree with you. I actually have an ex-Capricorn boss who cried when one of my former coworkers left. They were very close and she didn't resent her for leaving, it was more like she felt like she should have talked to her about it first and gotten the "ok" from her to go. She actually told me that she felt like she "deserved" the courtesy of being told about her desire to move on instead of being tendered a resignation. She actually used the word "betray"...I had no idea she was so emotional up until that point, I was shocked! She came across as a very stoic individual up until that point, but I know she herself is very loyal to her boss and has had several opportunities for other career moves and has always talked to him about it and allowed him to convince her to stay. I guess she expected the same courtesy.

LOL @ vertiver..."stable" Leo Suns...what happens with "unstable" Leos?