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Betty Boop
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posted September 18, 2010 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
rasberri - I don't know if I feel he is the one. But I don't feel like rejecting him either. I want to TRY things out as a normal relationship first.

angel - see the thing is sometimes I fall in love gradually in time. I don't fall in love at first sight. I feel like maybe we didn't have time to fall in love.
He is very friendly in general - his Aqua moon shows - and I assumed he was always being friendly. Even when we dated years ago, I didn't think this was 'special' to him. But apparently it *was* and he simply didn't know how to express it.

Deliverance

Diana - It wasn't a practical joke lol He wanted me to pick the ring so that it's something I definitely like (he is not that traditional - his Taurus sun is, but his Aqua Moon is the opposite). I was telling him yesterday that I think we should hold off on the ring for now and just have a relationship. He said he still wants to buy me a necklace instead, which was sweet.

I know how weird this is. My feeling is - he thought we were getting closer two years ago (which we were) and he panicked and his Aqua side felt "in need of freedom" so he took up this position at work, trying to get away. But later he realized that he really liked me and he misses me.
It's still weird that he'd propose though LOL
When I say the word "weird" I always think of the association to Aquarius - Maybe he just wanted to surprise me and do something more than ask me out to show he is really committed.

Diandra -

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rational and serious about it,commenting about saturn aspects and all..

I know what you mean.
But - in general - I am rational and serious emotionally. Capricorn is a detriment placement for the Moon. I guess it's not the energy people expect (Taurus/Cancer).

I'm not really in love *with* love.
Even though I don't feel romantically that into him right now - I think this deserves a chance. Not because I "want" to get married (regardless of the husband). But because there is *something* about this guy.


What Lonake said:

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Whatever happens, you two are meant to be together for some reason, I don't know what, but it's very important for your individual nodal path, very important.

I do FEEL this. There is definitely a strong connection of some sort. I want to see what he is like in a relationship. We didn't have much time before and he left.

DD -

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I know that my best friend wasn`t in love when she married. Not like I would like to be in love, crazy, blissfully, passionately, all consumed.
But the thing is SHE doesn`t like any of that "romantic nunsense".
She wanted someone she could trust and to build a life with. Plus she loved him and cared for him deeply. She just wasn`t IN love with him.
They are very happy together btw.

I could easily do this ^
Does your friend have any Cap placements?

Teasel -

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I would want the trust and the romantic nonsense

That would be ideal - but I'm not that lucky LOL

You're right - If Leo proposed, I'd be much more excited right now! I'd prolly post three different threads in all the wrong forms with lots of bouncing emoticons and balloons

But when I had time to think about it - other things would take over. For instance Leo guy had a vasectomy. He definitely wants no more children - He already has three. Right now I don't want children either, but in time I might resent this. The other thing is because of the situation I'm not sure he'd ever make it official - although he says he wants to.

The weird thing is - in the synastry with Leo - we have a similar grand trine at the same degrees.
His Sun at 9 Leo - his Saturn and my Sun and 12 Aries - My Saturn at 9 Saggy.

So Taurus Guy's Saturn is conjunct Leo's Sun. His Venus/Mars in Aries is conjunct Leo's Saturn.

Maybe *they* should get married!

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I just wish you both well. I'm sure you'll do the right thing, if this isn't right for you both.

Thank You Teasel

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Lara
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posted September 18, 2010 08:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL Betty... btw are you Dynamitee in disguise?

Personally, whoever i fell in love with immediately or at least went arse over *** for - never worked out.
I guess a slow, smouldering fire builds up heat and lasts longer than a ROARing HOT quick to light and too young to die kinda fire!

Good luck

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posted September 18, 2010 09:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
LOL, Lara makes a good point. (I'm laughing at the arse over *** - I'm a little homesick tonight. )

I can't remember where I read it, but someone, somewhere, posted a snippet from a man regarding women falling in love, saying that if they're hooked immediately, then that's a red flag, and the relationship won't work out (although that can't *always* be true). Slow and smoldering sounds good to me, and more romantic in ways. It reminds me of that quote about love being friendship set on fire.

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posted September 18, 2010 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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But because there is *something* about this guy.

It's gonna change your life and push you closer to your Taurus NN. He could influence the development positively or negatively, prob positive as neither of you have negative aspects to your nodal axis.
There's a bind there but I can't say if it's lasting exactly, all I know is that after this you'll be much more clear about moving forward, and looking back on it you'll see how so many things clicked into place, but you may not realize the larger purpose at the time it's happening.

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posted September 19, 2010 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My friend has DESC in Capricorn.
On the other hand she has Mercury conjunct Venus conjunct Mars in LIbra conjunct Pluto (all in 5th house), squaring Moon in Aries in 11th and squaring the ASC/DESC-axis.
Yet she is SCARED of being "in love".
So it was the right thing for her, I guess.
ON the other hand he was and is very much in love, I think. Despite having Sun and ASC in Capricorn and Saturn in 7th house.

BTW I have Venus in Cappy, and am much more of a romantic.

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posted September 19, 2010 05:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
BTW I do think she WAS in love, she just didn`t like to call it like that.
I always take a mental note if someone sais, I am not in love, but there is "something" about that guy.
That "something" usually peaks my interest.

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Betty Boop
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posted September 19, 2010 07:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
awwwwwwwwwwww That's so cute Belgz! ^^

Thank You Lara! Nice to see you posting
Yes it's Dy-na. My nickname was lost in a glitch.

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I guess a slow, smouldering fire builds up heat and lasts longer

lol I completely agree! I think that suits my Aries/Taurus combo (and his). I know you have the same combo also

Teasel -

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if they're hooked immediately, then that's a red flag, and the relationship won't work out

I'd extend that to men also. I doubt it's *always* the case. I guess it's luck of the draw. You might be very physically attracted to someone as soon as you meet, and later it could turn out you are compatible on several other levels. But I think that's rare.
The story I usually hear is: "We fell in lust at first sight and it quickly dissolved after things became physical".


Lonake - I love reading your posts about this, because I also have a feeling this will change me in some way - in a positive way. When I saw your pic ages ago I said - you look like such an intuitive cookie lol
I think really are very intuitive. Thank you for your interpretations

DD -
Oh I have DC in Cap to. You probably remembered that lol
In a sense I am romantic. But I'm also very practical so hmmm if I ever have to choose between the two - I'd go with what's practical. But obviously I'd prefer a perfect scenario like Teasel was saying: "both the trust and the romantic nonsense"

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I always take a mental note if someone sais, I am not in love, but there is "something" about that guy

LOL I think you're right!
Well I'd be lying if I said I didn't notice his Venus/Mars

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Betty Boop
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posted September 19, 2010 08:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
lol Strange! I was thinking about him. I switched the tv on and some people are planning a wedding on some some series I don't normally watch. The bride was just trying on a dress
Sign or coincidence?

^ This is on channel 10 right now - for the Aussie people


:edit: OMG this is so funny - The bridesmaid in this movie keeps freaking out about her speech. My bff would act so much like her hehehe

:edit: ohhhhh man! This had a totally unexpected ending and the bride dies.

Maybe not a sign?

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posted September 19, 2010 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Uhh, I'd say stick to your feelings and not what's on TV.
Your excitement/nervous energy about the situation is pouring into how you view everything. So something you wouldn't normally notice now takes on added importance just cos of what you're experiencing. If you keep going on like that you'll prob confuse yourself, and not be able to decode the information you're receiving from other, more important, sources.
My common problem

Tho I do believe in what was termed Winks from God but seriously you can overdo them, especially if you're sensitive or in a highly stimulated state, when you don't take into account other factors.

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posted September 19, 2010 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hey, can you post a chart with your progressions, transits, natal, the combined chart on astro.com..

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posted September 19, 2010 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lioness     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Betty so have you talked to him??

Hey next week he's going to invite you to a surprise Wedding!

I guess thats the Aries influence

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posted September 20, 2010 02:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Congratulations! Leave it to an Aqua Moon with Venus & Mars in Aries to pursue so ardently and unconventionally.

Looking at your synastry, I first noticed some indicators of a past life history. (I'll get to those.)


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I was telling him yesterday that I think we should hold off on the ring for now and just have a relationship.

Good. I was about to splash cold water on you and slap you a few times to wake up that honest Aries Sun of yours. We could still do that, just for fun.

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posted September 20, 2010 07:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake -

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Uhh, I'd say stick to your feelings and not what's on TV.

LOL I think you're right. It happened again last night with a different movie. I'm over-thinking things.

Thanks for the 'winks' link! That's awesome

Lioness - We've been talking lots, but mostly about our lives, not the proposal as such lol. He understands I want to take things slow and he grudgingly agreed that 'it's best'. I think his Venus/Mars get irritated by my Capricorn Moon. But his Tauro Sun gets me lol
The thing is some of our friends keep calling, in particular his - because he has a million friends and word keeps spreading that he's engaged. They keep asking him about it - so he has to say "actually we're not engaged anymore", which is awkward. He told me he wasn't annoyed/upset, but I still feel bad that he's in this position.

Jane -

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I was about to splash cold water on you and slap you a few times to wake up that honest Aries Sun of yours.

LOLL I was definitely in Pisces mode for a while there.
That would be hilarious - us having a water-gun fight hehehe

What was your ex like? Why did you break up?
How strange that they have almost the same chart!

I love the past life connections you mentioned. When I look at my own synastry and my own natal - I always miss things. I'm not as observant as I am with others' charts.
I completely missed that my 12th ruler is venus 9which it is - doh!) lol so that's one other indication.
And Karma! wow!!
The only other person I had this with was my grandmother. Her Karma was also on my Moon *exact*
It's even more interesting because my grandmother's Sun/Mercury/Venus are all exactly conjunct at 24 Libra, bang ON his NN.
Maybe we're in the same 'soul family' or something along those lines.

My Karma is at 4' Pisces sextile his Mercury/Chiron. It's a close sextile.
Actually his Karma is also sextile my Mercury and we have the same sextile in composite - all exact.
In composite we also have Karma conjunct Moon.

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Really wonderful synastry.

Sweet!! Thank you

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Chiron's involvement...Will your lifepath (your Venus-NN) hurt or heal him?

hmmmm Well my Neptune is also involved - trining this. I have a feeling it will be positive.

(P.S. Yes - I know My Pluto is opposite this! I'm trying to forget that lol)

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posted September 20, 2010 07:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Lonake - Here is my Prog-Transit-Natal:


This is HIS:


Thank you so much!!!!

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posted September 20, 2010 07:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
It's interesting we have the same pattern in natal. I can't remember the name of it - The 'little house' pattern LOL

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posted September 20, 2010 11:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Very cool! Your progressed 1st house ruler is cnj your 7th house ruler! I believe that's one of them there marriage indicators.

His p. 1st and 7th house rulers are cnj too! Even though they're cnj in his natal, Venus progresses at a faster rate than Mars. So they didn't have to be cnj in his p. chart.

I'll load up my water gun with champagne to celebrate.

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posted September 20, 2010 11:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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posted September 20, 2010 11:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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The only other person I had this with was my grandmother. Her Karma was also on my Moon *exact*
It's even more interesting because my grandmother's Sun/Mercury/Venus are all exactly conjunct at 24 Libra, bang ON his NN.

The more I hear, the more I like!

Karma-Mercury sextile on all levels is fantastic. I worried about Chiron's presence. Those easy Karma aspects are reassuring. You'll probably both feel heard and understood.

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posted September 21, 2010 05:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
OOOOK

Third day in a row. Wedding TV!
What is it with this wedding obsession?
Now there's a show on called "four weddings" and the brides "battle" each other - technically. The best wedding wins something - I think they win a honey moon lol
OH man - Now they're taking about the proposals LOL One of them said - the groom proposed the day after he met her

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posted September 21, 2010 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane -

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Your progressed 1st house ruler is cnj your 7th house ruler! I believe that's one of them there marriage indicators.

WOW
It is to!

Thanks for the champagne idea! I'm so doing that at my wedding. You're invited if you happen to be in Aust

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The first time I saw him I was hit hard with lust at first sight.

Actually, I was the same when I saw "D" hehe
He's very attractive. Must be somethin' about that Ven/Mars conj in Aries opposite Pluto!

(I'm watching this wedding show as I'm typing - It's TOO FUNNY. Three of the brides went to the fourth bride's wedding and they keep bit*hin' about her tan, that it looks orange, that she's a fake loll ohhhh man)

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I'm so raw with a man...I needed someone who felt like he was meant for me, so that I could do the emotional work I needed to do with him.

I used to be like this. I think I've changed.
Sometimes I feel this way about Leo guy - like he was meant for me emotionally - but everything else seems out of sink in our lives.

(OMG This bride is definitely a Leo - She spent $6000 on her wedding dress and even had fireworks at her wedding.)

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. Even at the time, he felt like a gift. He was just what I needed. So sweet to me and fun. And sexy. My Sco Asc demands sexy.

He sounds awesome!

(OMG ok - The next bride is having a pagan ceremony. The Leo girl doesn't like it lol)

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His Vertex-DSC-Ceres cnj my Saturn. More fun than it sounds!

That sounds interesting. Actually in my syn. - his Sun is opposite my Vertex. What would that mean? Is the anti-vertex unlucky?
I remember reading that.


Let me know if you want me to delete this. I only quoted parts that didn't have much info.

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posted September 21, 2010 06:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Jane
I never heard anyone express needing a "raw connection in order to work on emotional things"
I have that ,now.
I never quite had it before like this. I don't think I was ready.
I wanted to skate above life :make it fairy tale and most especially push my own issues down.
That type of raw connection is like a Pluto experience.
It shows you who you are and what you are made of.
I wonder if you even could see it by yourself.
Thank you again for a most brilliant insight ,Girlfriend

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posted September 21, 2010 07:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DD     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Jane,

naturally.

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Betty Boop
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posted September 21, 2010 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Have you guys ever seen a palm reader?
Do you believe this works?


Just wondering..

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posted September 21, 2010 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jane     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
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