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rajin
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posted September 21, 2010 12:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
In a relationship, say a guy breaks up with you, have minimal contact over the years and then he pops back saying he is interested in you wants to try again. You give him a second chance and things still are the same since he has not grown up. This time you break up with him. The point is what is the reason that he came into your life at all? And then why a 2nd time? Does this mean that there is some relationship in the future and both of them have to work it out?
Plus how do u do it if he never grows up?

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posted September 21, 2010 12:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
this is in the wrong forum

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rajin
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posted September 21, 2010 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Lonake,
What I meant to ask was is it unfulfilled Karma that makes people return? Penny thornton says that where love is concerned there is always Karma to deal with. What kind of connections in charts says bad karma or good karma?
I have the natal charts of two people for a study.Was just too sleepy to post them last night. sorry abt the vague posting.
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rajin
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posted September 21, 2010 07:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
sorry the link code is wrong.
Am posting the image again.

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Betty Boop
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posted September 21, 2010 07:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Betty Boop     Edit/Delete Message
hmmmmm I don't know.
I think it's best to stick by your decision if things got seriously bad the first time around.

Tiger don't change its stripes!

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rajin
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posted September 21, 2010 02:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Betty,
Love ur handle BTW. The main problem with this couple is he is afraid to open up to her. Once he senses that this could get serious he starts backing off. But the charts have mercury in a good alignment. Hence wondered if Karma had any role to play since he can't seem to let go of her completely and vice versa.

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posted September 21, 2010 11:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amowls*     Edit/Delete Message
Did this happen recently? If so mercury retrograde may be a factor

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posted September 21, 2010 11:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
edit

(Diana is probably right. I'm trying to be positive - I'm in an awful mood.)

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posted September 21, 2010 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
I think a lot of times it just means they're bored.

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posted September 22, 2010 12:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
that's better....
You should read my nodes thread as your charts have *just the thing* I was commenting on, planets sq the nodal axis,
-your saturn square his nodes
-his merc/venus sq your nodes
so it's perfect nodal double whammy!
basically when the planets sq the axis in synastry it gives the nodal person a key they need to move forward.
nodal contacts are hard to run away from, if you cut this one out of your life you'll just meet someone else who pushes you along.
it seems like they're always around

I also find it interesting that you're commenting on his randomness and inability to grow up, whereas the male markers in your chart (namely sun conj uranus conj merc conj jupiter), honey these are *not* male energies that have staying power. You have to realize there's a strong part of you that does not want a traditional relationship. Very strong. Meditate on that, and then look at the men in your life. Are they simply reflecting your energy back to you? Don't get me wrong, although strong h5 energy can be very childish (childlike) it can also be quite creative. Work on the creativity and see if your partnerships don't improve, cos I do believe they will.
I'm gonna add double emphasis on the above as your Asc ruler is Merc and your Dsc ruler is Jupiter.
Mars in H8 adds stability, but the above stellium really is v.strong. (Otherwise I would've said triple )
You would do well in a relationship that has an element of it always being in the 'dating' stage, so that you do not lose interest. And possibly in alternative lifestyles.
The bugaboo is your Moon in Cancer that needs to be fed, so he should secure that somehow, with either Water in his sun, moon, asc, or helpful conjunctions to your Moon (but then it'd square your Merc/Jupiter etc. so that would be another story)...maybe a trine from Pisces, or Scorpio.

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posted September 22, 2010 12:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
rajin, he has moon sq uranus and they're not being aided in this synastry. there's a side that wants commitment and stability and another that would want more of a free love partnership. plus he's quite sensitive, and somewhat evasive. that may add in to the reappearances...

I'm pisces (neptune) and have the unfortunate tendency to slip away and then swim back...We follow what our moods dictate, to avoid confrontation, since we're not always sure what we want.

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posted September 22, 2010 12:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Lonake,
I love what u wrote becoz the chart u assumed as female is the male counterpart of this relationship.He has a Gemini Asc and Sag Dsc. She is the Pisces Asc and Virgo Dsc. What struck me was his NN conj her Asc. And his Pluto conj her Dsc.
He is indecisive when it comes to making a relationship committment, but inanimate things don't threaten his mind( he got himself a house- speak of committment for the next 30 years). Hence kept wondering what it meant with the Karma axis?

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posted September 22, 2010 12:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey amowls,
No, it happened last year just after the july 22 eclipse. I thought that the eclipse had some role to play but it was just things adding up one bit at a time.I know her and she is like the Pisces Asc she has, pretty emotional and easily touched by someone's misery. She has a short fuse but does not seem vindictive( thought she wld be considering her Scorp Sun).
He is pretty charming,siplomatic, can talk birds out of a tree, but he is just talk, very rarely keeps his word. She wld die before breaking her word.Just amazes me that nature thought of making these two meet. But the sad part is she is the one who bleeds when the relationship ended both times,no matter who is wrong.And she is still in love with him, stupid girl.

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posted September 22, 2010 02:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekf     Edit/Delete Message
hey diana,
could you elaborate on the mercury/jupiter as a not staying power energy?
thanks!

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posted September 22, 2010 04:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe it's my Neptune on your Merc but I really don't understand what you're asking re:Karma on your response.

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posted September 22, 2010 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Lonake,
He has his NN on her Asc, they say it is a powerful bond-Paul McCartney and Linda had it.Like you pointed out they have DW for NN connections too. With so many aspects saying that they have to learn from each other in the future, since NN is abt lessons to learn together why is it that they are not together?
Hence I thought that it was a karmic debt of pain and hurt between them that they were fulfilling. Would you think it possible?

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posted September 22, 2010 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tangerine     Edit/Delete Message
"He is indecisive when it comes to making a relationship committment"

Sounds as typical Libra as someone can be. When i was reading the first post my brain was just shouting "Libra, Libra, Libraaa..."

...and thats just what he is. Libra with Gemini Asc. Very hard to make a commitment, very hard to make decisions.

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posted September 22, 2010 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Tangerine,
How can he make a committment to buy a house? That is a major one, he sticks to his job for 10 years even after he is not happy with his work environment. But the moment things seem to be getting serious in a relationship, he starts shutting people out.
Strange.

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posted September 22, 2010 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Tangerine     Edit/Delete Message
"How can he make a committment to buy a house?"
Rajin, that is a good question and i can only guess what the answer could be.

As far as im concerned, Libra loves lightness, meaning also easy-going relationships and hate overly dramatic, sentimental or possessive behaviour as well as situations. I think when relationship gets more serious it simply freaks them out and then they run away. But in the end, they realize that they do need relationships in order to be happy, so they come back, change their mind (again) and this can go on and on..

Maybe they can not handle their emotions, maybe this man is an immature one?

What it comes to buying a house, i wouldnt see that as such a Big Commitment after all - you can always sell the house again, buy a new one, whatever. And most importantly: new house doesnt make any emotional demands.

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posted September 22, 2010 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Tangerine,
Guess ur right. But let him try selling the house in this economy:-). But 1/12th of the people in the world are Librans and not all of them are so indecisive. what is it with him? He is in his 40s and he still can't decide whom he wants to be with? Plus why waffle for so long, I mean if u don't like a person it does not take u a year to figure that out.
And he is sly, the last time he did not break off, he just left her dangling with no personal communication just texts saying yea I wanna be with u. Why not just end it, say it and be done with it?

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posted September 22, 2010 04:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Diana     Edit/Delete Message
I never mentioned mercury jupiter.

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posted September 22, 2010 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
I wondered if my PC my not showing Diana's post, could not see any juipter remark at all.

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posted September 23, 2010 02:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Oh I get it. No, just because we have nodal energy with someone it doesn't mean that they will stick around. And sometimes we do learn lessons through pain. Hard fact of life.

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posted September 23, 2010 04:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ekf     Edit/Delete Message
oops - sorry my bad! silly blackberry visualizer...it was Lonake's comment.

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posted September 23, 2010 07:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for rajin     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Lonake,
So will this relationship never take off? Do you think that the stellium each one has in the 5th and 9th houses make them more individualistic rather than work together as a unit?
Plus he walked out the 1st time, came back again and had never grown up. He was the one who needed to understand what a relationship meant. Why is she undergoing lessons in pain?

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