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Ami Anne
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posted September 28, 2010 07:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
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Someone once told me that when you fall in love, it is child to child.

I love this [/quote]


I know,Lonake, I never forgot that.

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posted September 28, 2010 07:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unmoved     Edit/Delete Message
Ami,

No problem.

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swirl-kitt
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posted September 28, 2010 07:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for swirl-kitt     Edit/Delete Message
There are different people I trust for different things.. People trust me most of the time . Scorp sun-saturn-pluto.


But when it's something that I have to deal with, I usually don't like sharing it with anyone, It irritates me.

You know, when you feel like just crying on someone's shoulder about how nothing's going right.


I only did it once to my mom, and once to a Pisces sun guy ! lol He was so cuddly..


scorp sun-aries moon-virgo mars Cap/taurus suns are good too !!

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Winged Leo
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posted September 28, 2010 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Winged Leo     Edit/Delete Message
From a LOA point of view, if a person is always attracting untrustworthy, nasty and unkind partners, if that's a "pattern" in his/her life, this really speaks of who he/she is as well, the problem does not only lies on his/her partners. It means there's something about him/her that is attracting those BS people, because LOA only allows "same frequency" to attract each other. It's so hypocritical for someone, who is a believer of "like attracts like" rule and preaches it in every opportunity, to say that she's incredibly trustworthy, but always attracted bad relationships in the past.

I'm also wondering when you're going to stop adressing Ami in your posts. How many more times does she have to tell you that she does not want to engage in a conversation with you in LL? Don't you think you're pushing it a little hard? Your "insincere" friendly advice to Ami about "shutting the mind & opening the heart" is something Ami does EVERYDAY here. She's pouring her heart and soul into the website, she's REAL and honest, not some delusional, fake 5th-D personality.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 28, 2010 09:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Winged Leo, dear friend

Thank you for getting me!


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Lonake
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posted September 28, 2010 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
What if you attract people who are honest to a fault.
What does that say about me?
I'm honest but not OTT about it.

I also attract many v.curious/talkative people but everyone always says how quiet i am. I don't try to be quiet, it just so happens that i'm not very interested in them....if I were interested then I would be more curious.
This part of the law of attraction always stumps me, because it looks like opposites attract.

The way it *has* played out is that the men in my life have let me in on the 'secret' of my fear of commitment :gasp: which is so true, but it took me yrs to realize. That was quite interesting how it manifested and now I'm here wondering what to do about it as I'm female, and it's a bizarre thing for a woman to have, but I digress.

Ami, you're doing great with the readings, i read em and your intuition is moving you along swimmingly.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 29, 2010 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Lonake
Thank you for saying that about the readings. That is a boost to me!


I want to say something about what you asked about attraction. This just hit me, yesterday on Frozen Queen's thread to me about Pluto.

She said she could see I had strong Pluto.

I wrote back about it and then at the end I could SEE what happened with MY Pluto.

I submerged it--out of fear of it .I got rejection from my parents if I showed strength.
SO, I became the anti Pluto(weak) and found men to act out the Pluto(strength/abuse).

I SEE that pattern ,now. It is a powerful pattern .I had read about it, before,but never SAW it with my own two eyes/gut.
Thank you again, Lonake, for your comments on the readings


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posted September 29, 2010 03:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for iQ     Edit/Delete Message
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The problem is how to get there.
Any suggestions? Please ,be specific
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In my real world seminars, I teach a "Success Diary" Visualization to build confidence. It can be re-used to build Self Trust.

The initial steps is to visualize your favourite person [For Ami Anne it would be her grandmother] assessing your best qualities. Then write down these qualities. Then feel each and every positive quality. This exercise shifts the consciousness to a positive vibrational State.

Next, write down every point in life in where someone trusted you. 5-10 events are sufficient

Next, visualize these points as being embossed in gold in a Successful Trust Diary. It would fill up one or two pages.

Imagine that you are now filling up the entire diary. It has thousands of instances. 1000s more have trusted you as your life progressed. Imbibe now the feeling of what it is like to be trusted by thousands as evidenced by the diary entries.

Come out of the visualization and lock or anchor this feeling of being a trustworthy person.

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Lara
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posted September 29, 2010 03:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lara     Edit/Delete Message
What a psycho LOL

hahahahahaha a narcissist and a psycho on one thread.

IQ, you are a kind man to type up visualization tips for her but she's never gonna get it. Mental fixation fed by
Narcissism takes you further away from source.

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Lonake
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posted September 29, 2010 04:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lonake     Edit/Delete Message
Ami, I agree, not playing the victim (altho honestly i did feel lost and with a question mark over my head) is v.empowering.
Wishing you well,
the next step is what to do now with what we know about ourselves..
Strength in integration?

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Ami Anne
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posted September 29, 2010 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you ((((IQ)))
I will do it


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Ami Anne
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posted September 29, 2010 08:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Dear Lonake

I value you very much and would never want to do even the littlest thing to offend/hurt you.
My post was not relating to your experience, only my own.

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bonadea33
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posted September 29, 2010 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
Hi GV,

If Saturn is the planet to trust to somebody in that case I have trusted only to my mother (Saturn trine Moon, ruler of my mother).

I trust to more people, but don't trust to myself. That is the problem.

Bobbie

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Ami Anne
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posted September 29, 2010 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Bobbie
Please explain more what you mean. Give examples if you can.

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Winged Leo
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posted September 29, 2010 09:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Winged Leo     Edit/Delete Message
"hahahahahaha a narcissist and a psycho on one thread."

LOL! How true! Plus, she's also a goader.

iQ and Geo,

As always, you post great info. Thanks!

Ami

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bonadea33
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posted September 29, 2010 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bonadea33     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Ami,

I do it because of you:

I have trusted to my 1st great love, born in sign of Scorpio. I didn't get Visit Visa to USA (I could be your neighbour - Chico State College - California).
All has failed: my destiny!

After that happened, I didn't trust to anybody, at least to myself, because I fell in love with somebody else. I was in some kind of triangle and on the end I was alone. That was easy: I was in Germany, my fiance was in CA and the new one was in Vienna, Austria.
I wrote there, that in the case, when I have no pains I fall in love very quickly.
That is from my Past.

From other side, my Moon in Pisces (5th) square Uranus (ruler of 5th) means, that I can break the relationship without any word.

The only person I can trust at the moment is my sister, Gemini Sun.
I trust also two female friends: both have Sun and ASC in Cancer and both have Moon in Taurus, my Sun in Taurus.

WL, B.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 29, 2010 09:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you ((((Bobbie)))

I am going through a transformation, right now, on everything, really.

The issues of trust,love, heartbreak etc are so hard to grapple with and find any real solution you can live with.
That is what I am trying to do ,now.

Thanks for sharing that personal information
I am sorry for what you went through , Bobbie.
I know it was deep pain you suffered

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posted September 29, 2010 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katatonic     Edit/Delete Message
attracting untrustworthy people does not mean that the "attractor" is untrustworthy but may indicate they BELIEVE untrustworthy people abound or just exist. that includes MOST people on earth who are taught from an early age "don't talk to strangers" "don't play out alone" "don't let so and so take advantage of you", etc.

i am tired of people using the LOA as a rationale for calling someone something nasty.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 29, 2010 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
What *I* was saying with my understanding of how suppressing my Pluto worked in my life was the first time I SAW what can happen when you throw away a part of yourself.


Often, you see the "sweetest woman in the world with an abusive guy

You ask,"How could this sweetie be with HIM?"

I think it is that she threw away her Pluto and as such she met Pluto in him.

That was my point, for myself, only.


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Winged Leo
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posted September 29, 2010 10:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Winged Leo     Edit/Delete Message
Katatonic,

And, I'm tired of two-faced people who believe in "like attracts like" rule and preach it everywhere and to everybody, but when it comes to themselves/their lives, always blame other people for the wrongs in their lives. These people are not REAL, they're fake.

Oh, and I'm also tired of "friends" who are blind to their friends' faults and nastiness! Why don't you once warn your beloved friend Lara for hassling Ami?? You'd be more FAIR, if you did this!

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posted September 29, 2010 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
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attracting untrustworthy people does not mean that the "attractor" is untrustworthy but may indicate they BELIEVE untrustworthy people abound or just exist. that includes MOST people on earth who are taught from an early age "don't talk to strangers" "don't play out alone" "don't let so and so take advantage of you", etc.
i am tired of people using the LOA as a rationale for calling someone something nasty.

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I was wanting to say something, because this is what I believe... although, I'm not always sure about the LOA.

That said, I was going to defend Lara, until I saw the "psycho and narcissist" post. I didn't think that she was intentionally hurtful to Ami, at first, because it is so easy to over-think things.

Anyway, butting out now.

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Nadiya368
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posted September 29, 2010 11:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nadiya368     Edit/Delete Message
I love this thread for so many reasons, but one being that this subject is so relative that it's going in all sorts of directions...


I agree more with the people who directed your attention towards the trust you have within yourself. Our relationships are our mirrors, (if you will) they show us the things within us that we'd rather not/subconsciously refuse to see. This was a HUGEEEEE one with me in my past relationship.

The doozy here was that he WAS a trustworthy boy friend and a genuinely great guy, but I didn't trust myself and in return projecting that onto him...does that make sense?


I subconsciously would say and do things to get him to reassure me of his affections (mars in cancer/lots of capricorn in 11th and 12th house) not because he wasn't worthy of trust......but because I had within myself, I saw that in him even though it wasn't there.

hope this helped!

and I have a cap moon, cancer mars, saturn & neptune in cap I'm a "don't trust anyone, do it yourself" kinda person..almost to a fault, but it just takes time.

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Ami Anne
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posted September 29, 2010 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
That helps a lot (((Nadiya))

It is hard to grasp the concept of calling forth outside experiences to confirm your reality.

It is elusive and amorphous like water flowing through your hands lol


I want to share a funny situation, in black humor terms

I was getting my Master degree in counseling. My internship was in a program for abusive men who were ordered by the court to go for counseling.

I was part of the group counseling . The guys were not contrite for the most part. I ,only, saw one guy who was lol

Anyway, at the time ,I was married and at the mall with my husband. He pushed me and a lady came up to me and said" Are you OK??"

I did not know what was wrong with HER.

I know this is horrible but I share it cuz it shows a lot.

I did not KNOW I was being abused.

The other thing that I observed in my internship was that the woman were meek, overly submissive, sweet,nice, caring

The men were the polar opposite---selfish, egocentric, swaggering, cocky.

Back to the Pluto,the woman must have thrown away their Pluto's and the men became the cast off Pluto.

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posted September 29, 2010 11:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for teasel     Edit/Delete Message
I just read this comment on a blog I've previously mentioned here. I'll edit it out later, because I don't have permission to re-post, but it's relevant to this thread, and I can really relate to it:

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I always say, who is going to love me if I don’t love myself. When I am confident, others are drawn near. They are like, “What does she have? I want a piece of that because it is awesome!!!” Positive energy vs. negative energy. What you put out to the world is what you will get back. I tell me girlfriends this all the time.

Say you walk into a social gathering with the hopes to meet someone. If you are wearing insecurities, others will pick up on it right away. Feel your power. I remember a time when I was going through the roughest time in my relationship with my husband and a woman at work pointed out how unhappy I was. I immediately started to cry. I didn’t know anyone else could see it. I didn’t talk about it. I always put on a happy face, but they still knew. Others always can see it, sense it, feel it….no matter how much you try to conceal it.

So revel in your own personal loveliness and beauty. Another thing I always say is, “I may not be everyone’s cup of tea, but I know someone wants to take a sip.” I know my WOW factor is there. I just have to make sure that I don’t let it flame out when the insecurities want to creep in and tell me I’m not all that. I am ALL THAT and then some!!!!!


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Ami Anne
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posted September 29, 2010 11:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ami Anne     Edit/Delete Message
I am so grateful to the people who have given their opinions and shared their heartfelt life experiences on this thread.

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