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Topic: Did You Ever Have Anyone You Could Really Trust?
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Nadiya368 Knowflake Posts: 24 From: Richmond, VA usa Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 29, 2010 12:09 PM
I am so grateful this thread is here in which for me to share my experiences, I'm just now coming into my own and realizing the people I'm surrounded by do not understand this kind of thinking...as expected cause they're all undergrads, but aquarius rising i'm ahead of the curve. and I love the quote post above. My most recent boy friend would tell me when we first met how I needed to get out more, and how unhappy i was etc. (well i was unhappy cause i'd just gotten my heart broke by a scorpio a few months prior) and i have a cap, i don't get over things easily. but I would get so offended and angry with him for saying these things when they were so true! I just couldn't see them for myself. ppfff all the 12th/neptune action...the fog! i thought he should be telling me how perfect i was, and smart and beautiful i am and all that jazz...and he was, but I didn't truly/deeply/wholehearted believe this for myself and therefore i didn't believe him/suspecting foul play where there was none!!!(even though he was a tricky gemini, he had a sagg moon..very honest) but it was all in my head!
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katatonic Knowflake Posts: 5336 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 29, 2010 12:53 PM
ami i agree that when you try to ignore your pluto you will meet it coming at you from others!i don't know how hard your husband pushed you but there is a fine line for me between "the way someone is" and "abusiveness" .. intent is 95% of the definition i guess...a playful shove is not abusive, but i don't know that that was what it was. some people think that if no hands are laid on another there is no abuse going on, which is patently not so; others think that all physical expression constitutes abuse, which it does not either. i had a boyfriend once whose buttons i pushed without ever trying. one day he took a swing at me. i put my arm in front of my face as a shield and he hurt his hand when it connected with my armbone. when he returned from the HOSPITAL with a cast on his BROKEN hand, he said "LOOK WHAT YOU DID TO ME!!!" he was sure HE was the abused person. i laughed, not at his broken hand or hurt, but that he thought it was MY fault he got hurt... IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 5336 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 29, 2010 12:56 PM
Winged Leo i just don't see any point in all this argy bargy. i don't think i mentioned any names, but obviously at least one of the people i was talking to "got" it. why assume no one else did?IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 1263 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 29, 2010 01:23 PM
Nadiya If I can turn any of my sorrows around and give to someone , it makes me feel that they were not all for nothing. Thank YOU !
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Lonake Knowflake Posts: 1999 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted September 29, 2010 09:55 PM
Ami, no offense at all..although this thread took a weird turn in some places..I was just stating how similar our experiences were in essence, but not in fact.
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Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 1263 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 30, 2010 07:59 AM
Dear Winged Leo I want to ask you a question. I am trying to feel Mars in Scorpio --in a man.From my impression of you , you feel strong in who you are, strong in having a drive and going forward with it. Am I right? If you see something you want ---do you pursue it? What house is it in and what aspects does it have? Can you describe how it feels to you? Thank you, Friend PS ---To woman with Mars in Scorpio---right now, I am just trying to get a feel for it in a man lol
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Winged Leo Knowflake Posts: 305 From: Registered: Jan 2010
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posted September 30, 2010 09:43 AM
Ami, I'm writing this from phone. When I get back home, I'll try to answer your question. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 1263 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted September 30, 2010 10:13 AM
Thank you ,Winged Leo Look forward to it ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |
kama Knowflake Posts: 29 From: Registered: Jul 2010
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posted October 08, 2010 03:01 PM
I just thought, what does it mean TO TRUST somebody? If you say to somebody "I trust you", that means "Please do not disappoint or hurt me, you are responsible for my wellbeing, my happiness".Why should I need to trust people? At my age it is easy to put it that way since I was "disappointed" very often and also lately. But today I would say trust is an illusion (I have saturn/Neptune conjunct!). If you are strong and responsible for yourself, you don't need trust, because disappointment is the end of any relationship, friendship or love. I don't care either whether people "trust" me. Take me or leave me. But if you stay, be reliable, if you aren't, please leave, that's my motto. Kama IP: Logged |
katatonic Knowflake Posts: 5336 From: Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 08, 2010 03:11 PM
oops wrong thread!IP: Logged |
Ami Anne Knowflake Posts: 1263 From: Pluto/house next to NickiG Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 08, 2010 03:41 PM
Dear Kama Can you explain more about how Saturn conjunct Neptune feels.If you could give examples from your life, that would be great My Neptune does not have that so I can't feel what it would be like. ------------------ Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend. IP: Logged |