posted October 06, 2010 03:00 PM            

The Aqua ex and I had the Venus/Pluto Quintile, however we also had DW Mars/Pluto (My Pluto Opp his Mars, his Pluto Trine my Mars), DW Sun/Pluto, DW Mer/Pluto, and in the composite the Moon was in Scorpio, in the 8th, the Sun was Opp Pluto, and Pluto was in the 7th...so it was as well a pretty plutonian relationship.

Both guys left me feeling very intensely for them, but it was a very obsessive type of thing. Not to mention just plain hot lol.

posted October 06, 2010 06:29 PM            

In everything he was the Venus, and I was the Pluto, and it was in Scorpio, plus he had his own Pluto/Venus Conjunction. It ws hard to get over him, and everytime I was around him my body knew it. And even when we kissed I found it hard controlling myself around him alone (I know he had that problem as well).

posted October 06, 2010 06:37 PM            

Sorry to pry. It's hard to detect boundaries when I can't see you face to face and feel you out completely.

ORBM,

posted October 06, 2010 06:39 PM            

So you agree with my sentiments about the reversed roles thing! What's your chart like. I'm a very aggressive person as well, so maybe we just like the role reversals (being Mars/Pluto) because of our own personal energies?

posted October 07, 2010 10:02 AM            

Well, I can share ,in generalities ,about the aspects but not specifics lol

Once you get the Visa, things will go smoothly, I think.
Your flight , trip etc will be smooth.This was your one main delay.

posted October 07, 2010 06:07 PM            

If I am not physically in England by the 15th then my semester will be canceled. The Consulate told me that if all of my corrected paperwork is not in by the end of this week, they will reject my visa. To my knowledge, they have all of my corrected paperwork.

I have been praying so much lately! Please hear my prayer Universe! Thank you for your compassion, Ami!

posted October 07, 2010 07:30 PM            

You make me feel at ease. You're so nurturing, Ami. You're right, I must be picking up your Neptune energy-- i seek spiritual solace in you. And I must be looking at you through rose-colored glasses, because every time I read one of your posts I feel like the warmth of your aura is vibrating from my laptop screen!

posted October 08, 2010 02:13 PM            

I am in nearly the same situation. His nodal axis & vertices sit on my Asc & Dsc.

This is our second time around 20 years later.

posted November 28, 2010 12:51 PM            

My Venus was opposite my kids father's Pluto and my Pluto was trine his venus. His Mars was square my venus. All by orb. The relationship was intense and he was obsessed with me from the beginning. There were some moments where I was a bit obsessed but not like him. He was very controlling too.

I did not feel a deep connection to him. I may have thought I did at the time but I don't think I really knew what strong, passionate love and a deep connection was until I met my fiance.

My most recent ex and I had venus/pluto also. My venus was opposite his pluto by orb. I did feel a very strong connection to him. We also had sun/venus. I thought I would marry him. He wasn't my ideal but I was satisfied. Our connection was very dreamy and comfortable.

I was obsessed with him sometimes. It did go off and on. His obsessive moments toward me was stronger than mine was toward him but his would turn off too once he knew he had me.

When our relationship was changing and ending, it was so hard for me. I thought I would never get over it. We never actually officially broke up but I could feel that we were breaking up. I think someone else was around him at the time, I could just feel it. I'm very intuitive in love relationships, I think this is because my venus is in pisces.

Thank goodness, my soulmate was there to rescue me and sweep me away from that torment. This is when I met my fiance. It was love at first sight. I cried when I looked into his eyes. I knew he was the one and this time I was completely sure and this feeling was unlike anything I'd ever felt before. I was over my ex in a heartbeat!

It was an intense romantic and sexual attraction. With the other guy, I felt a strong connection but I wasn't sexually attracted to him nor was I with my kids father, not like this. I didn't know what sexual attraction was until I met my fiance and I've dated a lot of guys. My relationship with my fiance is extremely romantic and sexual. I could write a steamy and hot romance novel based our relationship.

We were born exactly 7 days apart on a Wednesday and our charts are almost exactly the same except we have different moon signs and ascendants. Since were a mirror of eachother, we probably wouldn't be as strongly attracted to eachother if it wasn't for Venus/Mars. We have venus opposite mars both natally and in synastry. My mars is opposite his venus 2 degrees and his mars is opposite my venus 4 degrees. I know that's more than 3 degrees but I think it's still strongly felt and both of our mars are 17 degrees in virgo so I believe he feels the mars energy as strongly as I do. Plus an astrologer still called our venus/mars connection a double whammy so I think it still counts in this case.

I know he's insanely attracted to me just as I am to him. He thought I was perfect and ideal when we first met and I felt the same way about him, but as we all know with the opposition there's conflict and we didn't have a relationship on the physical plane right way, it took 4 years actually. There were money issues and he was insecure and thought I was too good for him. He moved to another state soon after we met. He was the most hesitant one, I was a little hesitant and scared too but I was more ready to go for it.

During the 4 years that we were not together physically, we were still together spiritually and we would communicate on a spiritual level. I always had hope that we would be together but I wasn't sure how he really felt about me and I wondered if it was all my imagination but I know now that he always thought that we were meant to be together. We both felt this deep, spiritual telepathic, psychic bond. I don't know what, if any, aspect is the cause of this. Venus in the 12th house maybe?

We also have moon/pluto aspects. My moon is opposite his pluto and his moon is square my pluto. We have the fears, insecurities, power struggles and jealousy sometimes. This could also come from the mars/venus opposition but were growing. My pluto is also conjunct his mercury. My sun is trine his saturn. We have a mars conjunction. My venus is opposite his jupiter. And remember we share the same signs, the main ones anyway, except our moons and ascendant so some of our aspects may still be somewhat felt by the both of us even though it didn't make an aspect for both of us.

Also, though not by orb, we both have venus in pisces and my venus is trine his moon in cancer by sign.

We also have pluto conj pluto. I know this is generational but an astrologer once told me that the pluto adds great intensity to the relationship. I don't really know if she was referring to the pluto conjunction or the other pluto aspects or all of them but I guess pluto intensifies the other aspects we have.

Maybe that's why it's so intense sometimes uncomfortable even.

The point of my post is that I strongly feel that our venus/mars opposition plays an important role in our relationship. Without it I don't think it would be as romantic and sexual. It's not just raw passion, it's extremely loving and romantic as well. I don't know about the other aspects between venus/mars but this is how I feel about the opposition. I did have venus/mars squares and trine before and it didn't feel this way.

Also, I don't feel that venus/pluto is necessarly stronger. My venus/pluto connection was history once I met my fiance. I was over it!

The venus/pluto sex was not long and didn't have that feeling of making passionate love and joining souls that I feel with my fiance and I've been on both sides where I was the pluto and the venus person.

Plus, I think venus/pluto and venus square mars are common. Venus/Mars opposition happens less often and I've read that oppositions can have that "IT" factor even more than conjunctions. I've never had a conjunction with venus/mars, only squares and trine. I had a venus/mars square with 4 intimate relationships. They were stormy and intense but I've never experienced anything as hot, intense, passionate, romantic and sexual as this venus/mars opposition. My sister and I share a trine.

One of the post said that venus/mars fade or something of the sort. I don't think this is true in all cases.

posted November 28, 2010 01:23 PM            

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I've had both aspects in relationships and I disagree that Venus/Pluto is deeper, stronger or longer lasting than Venus/Mars. I guess it depends on the aspect between venus and mars and also on other aspects as well.

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They were stormy and intense but I've never experienced anything as hot, intense, passionate, romantic and sexual as this venus/mars opposition. My sister and I share a trine.

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posted November 28, 2010 03:38 PM            

I have my Pluto 9 Scorpio conjunct someone's Venus 9 Scorpio and he is obsessed with me but it's not love. AND the conjuntion is nicely aspected!

posted November 28, 2010 05:56 PM            

I have pluto in the 7th.. I also have venus sq pluto in my natal....

I never really felt the "pluto" before until I met someone that also had venus sq pluto, and the composite venus opps pluto...

PLUS a both way Moon sextile Pluto and the Composite has Moon conjunct pluto...

posted November 28, 2010 07:57 PM            

My point is one can't say that the relationship between a couple who has a venus/pluto connection will be deeper than the relationship between a couple that has a venus/mars connection and no venus/pluto connection because it depends on other aspects.

My kids father and I had venus/pluto both ways and some other aspects such moon/venus and sun/moon and the connection and bond was still not as strong as the bond between my fiance and I.

Don't get me wrong though, I did feel a strong connection with venus/pluto but I've never felt the feeling of being madly in love until now and I had it bad with my last ex but it still doesn't equal the way I feel now.

So like raspberri said, I do think venus/pluto is overrated and maybe that's why I able was able to get over my ex so easily and fast when I met my fiance, because for once I felt true love.