posted October 06, 2010 01:50 PM         

to forgive is NOT to forget.

For me forgiving means to face the truth of what has happened, and not downplay it and not forget it, but to leave it where it belongs, in the past, and move on.

But the deed itself will not be somehow "erased" or forgotten, it will just not have the ability to keep me stuck in the past.

posted October 06, 2010 01:58 PM         

You didn't read my explanation of forget. To forget is to overlook and stop letting the past influence your present, but it does not mean to ignore or be in ignorance and make the same mistake again

posted October 06, 2010 03:31 PM         

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For me forgiving means to face the truth of what has happened, and not downplay it and not forget it, but to leave it where it belongs, in the past, and move on.

But the deed itself will not be somehow "erased" or forgotten, it will just not have the ability to keep me stuck in the past.

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posted October 06, 2010 08:39 PM         

You don't learn the basics of life,the do's and don'ts, what is in your control, what is not.
It is a huge mess like a soup with too many spices so the thing makes you sick.

You have to figure HOW life works in order to live in it with some sort of sanity.
Once you come out of numb, then you can start figuring out the basics of how you fit, what you can change, what you must leave alone.

Ideally, you learn this in adolescence but if you don't, you learn it, whenever

posted October 07, 2010 05:21 AM         

Sag is my aspirational sign,you could say. It has courage, boldness, directness and an adventurous spirit.

The 2nd house is my most needed houses to access. It rules the physical world and ,also, self esteem.

The 8th house is what I am able to talk about.
I am writing and talking(Gem) about 8th house things.
Thank you for asking, Lonake.

posted October 07, 2010 08:35 AM         

I did it as a robot, though.
That is why I am resisting just "doing" something , whatever that may be.

I want to know I am on solid footing,inside, before I do.
My point about my son was that he did it all but his mind was not right.
Your mind has to be solidly grounded in what IS :who you are :what actually is happening, not the re-run in your head :what are your rights as a person: what do you have no power over.
All these things constitute emotional health.
I have done the other things as a crazy person, if you want to say that.
I was lost on some gerbil wheel going over the past, again and again, even though I was doing "normal" things.
I don't know if anyone understands.I know what I mean and what I am trying to say but may not be making it clear.

PS My mother just knifed me ,again,but I don't care. I just want to face the truth about life and about myself.
That is all I want--to see and face truth.

posted October 07, 2010 02:42 PM         

"I know what I mean and what I am trying to say but may not be making it clear."
No, I so understand the "gerbil wheel" except I call mine a hamster wheel, lol. No difference.

posted October 07, 2010 02:44 PM         

I don't live near her.
Today I,truly ,saw how I gave up my Pluto out of fear and need for approval. Other people came in with their Pluto and filled in the gap.

It is a big thing to see. It must have something to do with holes in the energy field or something lol

It is a real thing,though.
I am thinking of the planets as energies. You need a balance of all of them.
For me, Pluto/Mars is the hardest but for some people ,perhaps, Neptune or Venus is the hardest.
Either way, there has to be a balance or things from the outside will fill up the vacumn.
This can make a lot of problems, I think.

posted October 07, 2010 03:00 PM         

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You just want people to pat your back while you put your head in the sand. That won't make you grow. And they don't have your best interests at heart.

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posted October 07, 2010 08:32 PM         

i only know some bits of your story with your MOther.

do you remember the link i gave you of some books that helped me a lot?and about that specific Hawaiian technique called Hoponoponno?did you started to apply it?

i cannot obviously held the Truth about this,as it is yours,and concerns only Yourself.

But....seeing your post i felt happy to see that part:
" I am, finally, making peace with my mother."

for many reasons:you´re BEING WHO YOU TRULLY ARE - when you/we/all replace lower energetical frequencies,for the ones of Love and forgiveness.

you´re simply doing what you came here to do - to experience Life,the best you can,being the Best you can Be - PERFECT!

i know..how hard it is to forgive.it takes work,time,patience,and most of all.it takes courage- to digg within ourselves - cause then we see whatever we didnt wanted to face.we think that others are responsible for our sorrows,our suffering,for the destructions of our dreams...but i came to the conclusion that...deep down...at an unconscious level...we are the ones responsible.

you see...in my heart,whenever others have "made me" suffered...it was only cause i gave them "the power to"..it could be for many reasons,probably it will always come down to karmic lessons/reasons.

im slowly learning that i will only find peace with myself,when i make peace with Myself,and forgive myself for the part in me,that created those darker parts on others.this is what Hoponopono is about too.

we say forgive me,im sorry,i love you,thank you,in phases,but infact we´re not applying that technique to others,but to ourselves. the purpose is that...others are only the reflexions of goes within us ( remember?as within so without...as above so below).

i started from the scratch,since i 1st made the decision to embrace growth:to attain that serenity/Peace that goes side by side with Love, i must 1st take ALL Responsability for "what happens to me".

see if it resonates with you,if not im sorry for the long post....i felt i had to share my perspective.

it is made out of love,so...you cannot stop from being who you really are,which is in Essence...LOVE.

posted October 07, 2010 08:40 PM         

i think that our charts are only a tool.they reflect our own choices/our karmic ones,which are both dual in positive and "less positive",when we decided to reeincarnate.hmmm i call God many names too:creator/infinite Spirit/whatever you call it: as HE/SHE created ALL,we also create it All.you can choice the way you want t act upon the energies of the planets which are in your chart.

nothing is set in stone as we have Free Will.this is the Wonder of it all.

one thought came across my Mind now: have you ever thought of regression?perhaps doing that,you can better understand the type of connection that you and your Mom had/have in this lifetime?ive seen amazing things,changes between people who had traumatic experiences with another person,that once crossed that Line,fully emerged to a greater understanding of all that happened....leading finally to the forgiveness that we all search for in all our relationships.

not only they forgive the other person,but mostly they forgive themselves too.

Books ive read:

The power of Now - Eckart Tolle
Conversations with god - Neale donald walsch
Celestine Prophecy - james redfield
The Game of Life - Florence Scovel

Forum where i exchange thoughts and ideals:smart development forum Steve Pavlina.