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Topic: Did God(as You See Him) Give Us Our Chart?
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Ami Anne
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From: South of France
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 05, 2010 10:47 AM
 
I am, finally, making peace with my mother.
I figure God gave me my synastry with her so I just have to try to make the best of it.
What is strange is that my chart is not that hard. You can only really SEE my life when hers is put next to it.
I wonder if that is how it is? I read a book about the charts of families.
It did say that you can understand the charts of the individuals much better if you look at the family
I have gifts and handicaps.Maybe, I am ready to capitalize on my gifts and accept my handicaps.
Gifts---Neptune in the 12th trine Sun, Mercury in the 8th--intuitive abilities
Pluto conjunct MC--strength
Unaspected Gemini Venus in the 7th house with Taurus on the cusp
Moon in Cancer
Pluto sextile Mercury and Sun
Challenges
8th house stellium--Gem Sun, Gem Mercury, Cancer moon
Saturn in the 1st
Mars in Cancer
Pisces on the 5th house cusp
Neptune in the 12th(sorrow with children) I am coming to an acceptance of my life and myself,thanks to all the love I have gotten on LL, in large part. How has/does your chart help you make sense of your life?
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Pluto conjunct Dejanira, Girlfriend.
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crabbypatty
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posted October 05, 2010 11:35 AM
Ami, I believe our souls - in conjunction with our guides - created our charts. If you haven't read Michael Newton's Journey of Souls and Destiny of Souls, I highly recommend them for a legitimate explanation of the process. IP: Logged |
iQ
Knowflake Posts: 2246
From: Chennai, India
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2010 12:01 PM
Good point Crabby.
One more metaphysical view is that God arranges experiences for His Own Sparks through an Oversoul or Higher Self Level from where we manage all our lifelines across timelines, including our guides and angelic levels. IP: Logged |
oneruledbymars
Knowflake Posts: 757
From: South Carolina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2010 12:11 PM
I believe that too Crabpatty...and that is one amazing book...but I beg to differ slightly.
The reason being is that I see myself as part of a greater whole...and I see creation as Divinely inspired...look at how a diamond is made...is it just randomnessin a way because the conditions have to be just so...but just how often are the conditions JUST SO.
I feel that while the Bible has been given to men and written by a man it is full of these instructions but it is riddled with principles of mind control to create 'sheep" out of men.
But your chart is a gift from the stars to create Gods out of men...who created those planets...who created those fixed starts...was it random...who knows really one day we will it is just not time yet
...but I do know this...i didnt create them and I could not possibly have placed them where I wanted them to be for me to be born as I chose my chart to be.
I feel like I had certain qualities to learn, certain people to meet...and Karma to pay back...with those intentions my chart came in to existence randomly...just as bacteria grows in a jar...randomly...and how life sparked an evolved from a single cell organism through Gaias nurturing once she 'randomly" was in the "just so" conditions..
Just like everything on Gaia it is random...and a survival of the fittest is what this game is.So you say did God give us our chart...I say yes...whoever god is to you...whoever the Creator is to you...because you are part of the Divine Chaos that chose to experience itself through creation by seperating from your source...you brave little soul you...thats why we start the Zodiac with Aries...pistoning down bravely with courage to take on the unknown....now it is your turn to use your Energy to create....and once you learn the Laws of this Universe...and how to live within so as to not create Karma...well then Gaia is no longer your classroom, she is your Playground and you are your own Creator ...as above so below.....but dont forget to give back....thats the only way you can be given to and this completes the Ouroboros that returns you to source.
And thats the name of the game this time around...ironically our bodies have become so much more robust and strong as our Energy has evolved from Egyptian times...those Pharoahs might have been great...but they are mere mortals compared to what we have come back as as we usher in a New Age.  Ami Anne you are why I am here but first I had to help myself... ...I love, love, love to see people taking responsiblity for there lives and doing what they came here to do...breaking free of there matrixes and casting off there programing to find out who they REALLY are and why they are REALLY here....xoxo
Your transformation will be grand one pretty lady keep me posted ...what is your age?
It just popped into my head that your generation never ceases to amaze me...you are what the term Crystal Children was meant to describe...I just dont like to group people in to categories...but I sense that in you all the same. IP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire
Knowflake Posts: 374
From: Bipolarland (Lindaland)
Registered: Dec 2009
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posted October 05, 2010 12:24 PM
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I am, finally, making peace with my mother.
Where did you bury her?On a serious note that kind of fickleness and superficiality really annoys me. I will never 'make peace' with my father because i'm not an idiot. To do so would be two-faced and would undermine my original stance. You undermine yourself all the time Ami. Classic Mars in Cancer. What do you mean you made peace with her?? I have 'forgiven' my father (NOT to be coonfused with acceptance or giving that person the time of day) because i have to to progress in this closed system of justice, but i can not forget. That would be kidding myself to even think i could. You are currently kidding yourself. And it is what impairs your healing process. That's the difference between you and me. You will always be stuck until you face reality. But you, thus far, have never faced it. You just push it 'around the plate'. That's why it looks different every day. You have no constancy within, and seek it without.
Look within (and grow a pair).
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oneruledbymars
Knowflake Posts: 757
From: South Carolina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2010 12:27 PM
I love the way my Piscean/Sag nature makes me expound...while IQ says exactly what I want to say in 3 sentences or less...LOL...
Im gonna be just like you when I grow up IQ...lolThat rhymes...Hey brother! You have been in my thoughts the last few days...quite heavily.
Hope the wife and fam are good and that all is well! IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Knowflake Posts: 1885
From: South of France
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 05, 2010 12:30 PM
Thank you for your compliment (((ORBM)))
I don't answer that question except when I have to put my chart up and can't get an accurate reading if I lie  ------------------
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Ami Anne
Knowflake Posts: 1885
From: South of France
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 05, 2010 12:31 PM
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Look within (and grow a pair).
I don't like to be talked to like this  If you take that out, I will answer your question. ------------------
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Predominantlyfire
Knowflake Posts: 374
From: Bipolarland (Lindaland)
Registered: Dec 2009
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posted October 05, 2010 12:34 PM
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I don't like to be talked to like this
That's because you're an ostrich. I'm your greatest chance of healing, but you don't have the qualities to make use of it. You just want people to pat your back while you put your head in the sand. That won't make you grow. And they don't have your best interests at heart. ------------------
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Predominantlyfire
Knowflake Posts: 374
From: Bipolarland (Lindaland)
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posted October 05, 2010 12:36 PM
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If you take that out, I will answer your question.
I'm not interested in how you caved in again. I'm only interested in you ridding yourself of her and becoming a whole person.
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Ami Anne
Knowflake Posts: 1885
From: South of France
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 05, 2010 12:39 PM
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That's because you're an ostrich. I'm your greatest chance of healing, but you don't have the qualities to make use of it. You just want people to pat your back while you put your head in the sand. That won't make you grow. And they don't have your best interests at heart
You are a brilliantly insightful person .I have grown, greatly,by your friendship.
However,I don't like to be talked to in a disrespectful way.
I can't explain any more on the original subject when I feel I am treated in a demeaning way by that comment.
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oneruledbymars
Knowflake Posts: 757
From: South Carolina
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2010 12:44 PM
But Predom...you cant not fault her for being different. She may not handle situations like you do, or like you even see as correct...but yours is just a point of view from your Energys take on it and from the angle your path is at.
She is on a different path and it is perfect for her...remember everything is as it should be.
Showing love is the only real way you can help anyone, your advice and your way is neither here nor there for her unless it lifts her Frequency.
No more than mine is.
She is trying and that is more than I can say for most people in this world.And I sense that I dont have the facts...and I know that you two have history...but still lower level Energy is emanating from you right now in this moment...and remember what you put out is EXACTLY what you get back...so if you like chaos in your life...then totally dismiss me but if you don't then learn how access a highe frequency in these moments......to do that when you dont want too is operating from your 3rd Eye...to do it when you want to is operating from your Solar Chakra....and that never brings harmony or peace nor does it help her which is your true intentions I feel. IP: Logged |
Predominantlyfire
Knowflake Posts: 374
From: Bipolarland (Lindaland)
Registered: Dec 2009
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posted October 05, 2010 01:06 PM
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I can't explain any more on the original subject when I feel I am treated in a demeaning way by that comment.
Great! I've finally found a way to stop you saying the same thing over and over again, but doing nothing about it.
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Ami Anne
Knowflake Posts: 1885
From: South of France
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 05, 2010 01:12 PM
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Great! I've finally found a way to stop you saying the same thing over and over again, but doing nothing about it.
YOU have the singular quality of making me want to wring your neck and hug you,at the same time  ------------------
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Ami Anne
Knowflake Posts: 1885
From: South of France
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 05, 2010 02:57 PM
Why do I respond to you,PDF, when I said I was not going to
The issue is healing a fractured self. You can be rich(Michael Jackson), powerful (Bill Clinton) ,beautiful( Brittany Spears, Lindsay Lohan) but if you don't have a sense of self ,it is all for naught, all painful,all of the time.
Pdf, you have the quality of one other person in my life with the same trine(Moon trine Venus-1 degree)
When I am angry at you, I still think you are adorable .------------------
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Nephthys
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Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2010 03:41 PM
didn't read any replies here, but god didn't give you your synastry, YOU CHOSE IT You chose it for learning.............  IP: Logged |
teasel
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From: Ohio
Registered: Apr 2009
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posted October 05, 2010 05:39 PM
I'm still re-reading Michael Newton's books - those that crabbypatty mentioned. They sometimes make me feel better about things (especially "Memories of the Afterlife" that came out last year - the book I felt a strong pull to buy). IP: Logged |
Lonake
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posted October 06, 2010 01:59 AM
(omg, are Ami and PreDom gonna get it on  You guys are too cute.)Ami, can you qualify 'making peace'
How does that look like to you? Is it verbal or just an inner relinquishment of negative ties?
Family members are more often than not such important soul mates, but our lessons through them can be very painful. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Knowflake Posts: 1885
From: South of France
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 06, 2010 07:46 AM
Thank you for asking,Lonake I have my own program to make peace with her. I take the words"You shall know the truth and the truth will make you free"
I keep trying and trying to face the truth of who SHE is.
*I* blamed myself for all the things she threw on me but it was not true.
SHE was the one with the problems. I was just a normal kid/person. However, knowing this in the head will do you no good. Your heart has to know it.
That IS the hard part. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
Knowflake Posts: 1885
From: South of France
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 06, 2010 07:46 AM
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Ami Anne
Knowflake Posts: 1885
From: South of France
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 06, 2010 08:01 AM
I force myself to talk to her but I am REAL.
I say what I feel.
I get angry when she violates me. I call her on it.
*I* see, very slowly, that *I* am OK and it was HER.
The problem is she programmed me.
Inside me, are the DISTORTIONS about who I am, my own value, excessive shame about normal human things like selfishness etc.
All that will not die WITH her. It is in me.
That is why you can't run away cuz you took on her thinking about yourself.
You must exorcise it.
You exorcise it by exposing to the light of day and the truth. The truth is that I have inherent value by God, my Creator.
I got waylaid from my true path which was love for God, myself and others. I got on a horrible path loaded with distortions. I try to face each distortion as I can.
As I do, I click back in to my original self who is very different than this angst ridden person  My true self is full of fun, insightful, confident,giving, and many other good things. A Voice promised me total healing many years ago.
It has taken a long time to begin to see much healing, any, really.
It said"I will restore everything to you"
I have a place inside that I want to reach. I have been here before.
It is an acceptance of my feelings and thoughts as "human"
It is seeing myself as I am.
It is feeling like I can take care of myself without excessive outside approval and affirmation. It is feeling like I am OK, worth something, valuable. Then, I will have what it takes to GIVE to someone I love.
I asked PDF a long time ago. "Do relationships have to be so hard?"
He said,"No, there is just loads of giving" He ,probably, doesn't remember saying that but I never forgot it . When I have enough to give, I will be ready.
PS If a handsome Prince could make it OK, there would not be a handsomer one than you.
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Ami Anne
Knowflake Posts: 1885
From: South of France
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 06, 2010 08:54 AM
I wrote ALL these words and they don't SAY all of what I want to say.
I want to talk from my heart, not my head.Maybe, I can later.
I am like pregnant with wanting to write things lol. This will be the hardest and deepest things I have ever shared here so I feel nervous but I have to let the light of day in.IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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From: South of France
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 06, 2010 10:19 AM
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Ami Anne
Knowflake Posts: 1885
From: South of France
Registered: Sep 2010
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posted October 06, 2010 10:44 AM
The answer lies in what is, not what you want to be.
I hate to look at things that are ugly, most especially if they are inside me.
That is where I have to start. I have to go slowly so I don't say so many words that I end up hiding in them.
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FrozenQueen
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From: The boundary where 'reality' ends and Dreams begin
Registered: May 2010
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posted October 06, 2010 12:58 PM
For the record, Ami, I do believe in God, but I believe it is we who choose our charts so that we can learn our lessons, erase past karma and evolve into more light, thus becoming closer to God PDF: To forgive is to forget and clean the slate but forgetting means to overlook not ignore, dear friend  ------------------
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