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posted October 08, 2010 04:41 PM         

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I agree with whoever said Saturn strong in synastry, esp. if one person's Saturn is being bombarded and the other Saturn is hardly reacting.

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posted October 09, 2010 12:58 AM         

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So my saturn is being bombarded? and this causes me to feel insecure with him??

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posted October 09, 2010 06:30 AM         

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That is fascinating ,Lonake. Thank you

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posted October 09, 2010 01:20 PM         

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What is fasinating?!! Am I missing something?!! lol I don't get what is being said!

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posted October 09, 2010 01:22 PM         

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If YOUR Saturn is being "hit" by his planets, you will feel insecure.
I think that is what Lonake meant, Glam.

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posted October 09, 2010 01:49 PM         

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LOL Thanks Ami!!! Are you on now?? yahoo??

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posted October 09, 2010 02:00 PM         

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Can't go on ,now . I am SORRY.
I will check back here later and see if you are free!!!!

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posted October 09, 2010 09:36 PM         

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Well it's not that simple, but in general, if your saturn is emphasized in synastry, esp if the other person's saturn is not, there may be old wounds opening up around them..that is esp. if you havent done the work on them prior.
Old wounds can feel like insecurity, wanting control, fearing loss, if you want to know your wound then look at saturn by sign, house, aspect. chiron, too. when it's mainly your saturn and not theirs, the pain can feel pretty acute because it feels as if the other person is not experiencing that same level of vulnerability and it really puts the spotlight on yours, a funny feeling.

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posted October 09, 2010 11:03 PM         

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Thats definitely what it feels like...you hit it on the head Lonake. I will look more into it. Thanks!

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posted October 10, 2010 07:31 AM         

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Glam
List the Saturn aspects in synastry. That should really help us get to the bottom of it

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posted October 10, 2010 09:51 AM         

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I don't know how to find everything but my Saturn is in Libra, which is in my 2nd house I believe. I read something somewhere last night that talked about money stuff and then self esteem so I guess the self esteem would fit more lol

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posted October 10, 2010 01:15 PM         

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Put your synasty up, Glam.Have that little aspects chart on it.
If you can --try to make it as big as you can
so I can see the aspects easily.

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posted October 10, 2010 02:27 PM         

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How do I get the little chart on it? The synastry chart is on the first page of this thread.

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posted October 10, 2010 03:00 PM         

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Glam
See that little chart under the composite. Is there one for synastry?
I am not sure.
I have my hands in so many pies now that I was hoping I could see the aspects and not have to count up numbers
You know what --Put your natal and his natal--if you want.
That will have the exact degrees on it.

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posted October 10, 2010 08:36 PM         

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I will post mine for now since it's my saturn we are focusing on lol....

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posted October 10, 2010 08:40 PM         

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Glam
You have several Saturn squares but they are very close. The closest one is with Mercury.
I would think your insecurity would be with your mind--if I am reading this right?
Do you feel that you are not smart enough or anything in this vein?
That is all I see on looking fast, though.
I will come back and look ,later.

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posted October 10, 2010 08:42 PM         

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Oh no, never felt insecure about that!! Maybe I'm just playing games w my own mind making myself believe someone isn't into me when they are?! I talk myself out of it?

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posted October 10, 2010 08:46 PM         

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Well,Glam I think we need HIS chart, too ,
cuz Lonake was saying HIS chart hit yours in such a way to bring out your insecurity.

If you put his natal up, we can compare where HIS Saturn is hitting you

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posted October 10, 2010 10:56 PM         

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No problem...here you go!!

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posted October 11, 2010 10:56 AM         

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posted October 11, 2010 12:00 PM         

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I will look, today, Glam

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posted October 11, 2010 10:26 PM         

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Thanks Ami!

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posted October 12, 2010 02:11 AM         

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I am sorry, Glam. I will look tomorrow!

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posted October 12, 2010 08:04 AM         

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I am gonna come back and forth and look slowly

His Saturn is not afflicted . It is 27 Leo in the 2nd house.
A 2nd house placement makes material(including self esteem) security very important .
His moon is in Cap which is a Mr Spock placement. I don't mean it as bad cuz I love it ,in friends.
They can see the job ,plan for the job and get the job done.
My best friend has it. I know I will have stability in life as long as I have his counsel.
For me, for a partner, it would not be good cuz my Cancer moon needs more of a warm fuzzy.

I will look at your chart,later, in terms of this.
A Cap moon could be called cold and calculating.
So, already a few factors are coming to light in the picture of him.
*I* am not very good so someone,please step in if I need help.
He has Venus oppose the MC(1 degree). I am gonna look this up.
My guess is his love nature is in conflict with his place in society,his spot in the world where he will make his mark.

He has Pluto in the 4th so he had a tumultuous home life.
THIS one is important.

He has an exact conjunction of Sun(ego) and Merc(mind) in Libra.

This may be your problem, Glam.
The person cannot separate themselves from things,very strong lack of objectivity.

It is the opposite of an Air sign. The Air sign can pull back and detach and see and reason what is happening.
This "combust" Sun/mercury jumps in to the fray before he even knows if it is HIS fray lol
My mother had a 5 degree combust. I know this combust quality ,intimately.

I could not take it but we all are different.

Have you ever fought with him? What happens.
So far, how does this sound---right/wrong/partially right lol

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posted October 12, 2010 08:11 AM         

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Dear Glam
This is the best I can come up with. The problem could be his Saturn conjuncts your Pluto. It is 6 degrees but I think I can feel sometimes up to 10 degrees.
I know people disagree on this.
Anyway, I am gonna look this aspect up and get back.
You have a good Saturn/moon sextile .His Saturn sextiles your moon. Again, it is 6 degrees.
OK--I am gonna study Saturn conjunct Pluto in synastry and get back

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