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posted October 12, 2010 08:22 AM         

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I am gonna look up some more references. This seems helpful but my intuition would feel it would be hard to have his Saturn conjunct your Pluto .
I know how *I* feel when someone's Saturn conjunct's my Mars. I have it now, btw lol
I,also ,had it in a female friend.
I let the friendship go cuz it felt she saw me with a critical eye.
She did not seem to think MY way of viewing life was "right"
She was a very earth bound person and I am not.
I felt like she wanted me to BE like she was . She could not"vive the difference lol

This was someone's Saturn on MY Mars.

My parents had their Pluto's on my Mars. It was the same feeling that I could never measure up.

You seem to be indicating you feel this way with this man.
I may be wrong.
I am gonna look up some more Saturn/Pluto conjunctions in synastry and see what they say.

Pluto conjunction Saturn:
What does it mean to your relationship when your natal Pluto is in conjunction to your partner's Saturn? There is an inner resiliency and strength which you both will discover and a sense of self worth that can break the chains of self invalidating negativity and dusty karma to begin life anew in a direction of your own choosing. All this comes with a price. Emotional difficulty and material scarcity can stress this partnership but add to the closeness you share. If your romantic partner's Pluto is in conjunction with your Saturn, your partnership will teach your partner about drawing boundaries and creating lasting values. The world will test you both until you understand the lesson.

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posted October 12, 2010 08:27 AM         

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That is all I can find, at the moment. I may look later for more on this aspect.

My thoughts about the whole thing( and I am not good ) is that it is His Saturn on your Pluto that is making you feel squashed.

I am gonna check out your Pluto, now.

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posted October 12, 2010 08:31 AM         

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WOW
I just saw something. I am not good at composite, at all, but Saturn squares the moon in the 5th house.
Saturn in the house of the material world(2nd house) squares(thwarts, frustrates, blocks) the moon(the heart of the relationship) in the 5th house(the house of play, fun, creativity and sex)
The 5th house is Leo. Picture Leo as a child full of wonder, curiousity, warmth, openness, wanting to give ,to love, to play.

This square makes Saturn throw cold water on the "child" i.e. heart bonding part of the relationship.

Please, anyone, give your opinion lol

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posted October 12, 2010 08:40 AM         

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In the composite, you have Saturn (in the 2nd) square Neptune in the 5th.
I will look it up, later

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posted October 12, 2010 01:17 PM         

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Neptune in the 5th square Saturn in the 2nd in the composite could mean that practical 2nd house material matters could be blurred or clouded in some way by your desire for fun/enjoyment.

This is just some thoughts cuz I am not good with composites or really, astrology, in general but I was thinking that maybe this could be an aspect that could show a conflict in the relationship such as gambling or something like that.
There could be a pull between material responsibility( 2nd house Saturn) and fun/enjoyment which Neptune clouds in some way to make a fog over it and hence a problem.

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posted October 12, 2010 03:57 PM         

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Thanks so much Ami for all the info you provided! wow!! I think you hit it on the head with all you found and yes, I feel he does have a critical eye on me and sometimes I can't measure up!! That's basically what I've been trying to explain in this whole thread lol. If it's always gonna be this way, I will let it go now! I'm not the type of person that will change who I am to please someone and if I do, it doesn't last long..lol I'm a gemini after all.

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posted October 12, 2010 04:00 PM         

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Glam
I am here
TELL me about the Sun conjunct Mercury---exact. Did I describe it right?

What is he like if you have a fight? Can he detach and step back at all and look at himself?

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posted October 12, 2010 04:20 PM         

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Well all the arguments have been over the phone but he definitely pulls back and says bye or goodnight...totally avoids any uncomfortable situations which I thought was part of Libra sun.

I want to know more about the pluto in 4th?? So the way his father was growing up or the situations at home will affect the way he is now or he will always have a bad home life? I don't understand that!!

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posted October 12, 2010 04:30 PM         

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I think it is early home life, Glam, a tumultuous early home life.

However, something like Sun conjunct Mercury is something which is inherent in him.

I am sure some people could deal with it but my mother had it and I hate it
Hers was 5 degrees away. His is exact.

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posted October 12, 2010 04:45 PM         

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Ok explain the Sun conj Mercury more please...not grasping what this would bring to the table for a relationship??

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posted October 12, 2010 04:57 PM         

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Ok
this is how *I* view it. I could be wrong.
If you want to talk about something sensitive--say he hurt your feelings.

If you bring it up HE does not have much detachment from his Ego(sun) to his mind(mercury) so he would get really defensive.

He could say,"What are YOU telling ME about? YOU are .........."
So, you could not have a give and take like if you and I(two Gem's) got angry at each other, we could discuss it and come to a reasonable conclusion and prolly continue our frienship.

In a word, he would defend his Ego to a very large degree. This would make getting emotionally intimate with him like a kickball match LOL

Maybe, I am wrong.

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posted October 12, 2010 05:04 PM         

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Ahhhh hmmm!! and I have a venus in Cancer so I'm pretty sensitive and would wanna talk about it. So far though, if I tell him he's hurt my feelings he says he didn't mean to and seems to correct himself where he might have hurt me in the next convo so we'll see. I think I've told you we live long distance and we will be seeing each other in 2 weekends...I'm nervous! :/

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posted October 12, 2010 05:12 PM         

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Well, you would have to experience more with him to see how it played out, Glam.

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posted October 12, 2010 05:32 PM         

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LOL great!!! Guess I will let u know in 2 weeks!!

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posted October 12, 2010 05:53 PM         

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Yes

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