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Topic: How are synastry aspects felt between two people?
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Nine
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posted October 20, 2010 11:25 PM
 
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posted October 20, 2010 11:28 PM
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Lioness
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posted October 20, 2010 11:29 PM
Take a look at what houses your planets fall into in his chart, and vice versa. Even if you have great synastry aspects, if you're only hitting his platonic houses (2nd, 3rd, 6th, 10th, 11th, etc.) he might not view you the same way you view him, if his planets are in your 1st, 4th, 5th, 7th, or 8th.
==============================================I cant say I 100% agree with this, I think other aspects/Natal aspects have to be taken into acct here... My ex husbands Sun,Mercury,Venus is in my 6th house. His mars at the very end of my 5th
My Sun,Moon,Mercury and Mars are in his 11th house. My venus in his 10th. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted October 20, 2010 11:32 PM
I've looked at the synastry again and here's what I've come up with...Your pSun @ 5 Leo is conjunct your pMars @ 5 Leo. Together they form an opposition to his pVenus @ 0 Aquarius. Forget the Sun/Moon and other flowing linkages for now, these are the dominant aspects with this guy. First, you have Sun opposed Venus, a tense aspect. Second, you have Venus opposed Mars, another tricky aspect. To complicate matters further, you, a "Girly-Girl" is thrust into the masculine position of Sun and Mars. And he, into the feminine/passive Venus role. Translation, you will have to do all the hard work, while he sits there and bats his eyelashes. If he is uncomfortable in the Girly-Girl position, things aren't gonna work out. Same for you playing the "guy". How apropos for an Aqua/Leo Male/Female dynamic. Is he simply not interested, or is he being Venus waiting for you/Sun/Mars to make the move? He has Moon is Aries, so he likes bold women. His Venus is in Capricorn, so he's attracted to strength and perseverance. Sounds like you? IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted October 20, 2010 11:51 PM
"I'm pretty sure there's no guarantee that you HAVE to like someone just because there are XYZ aspects. There's no real formula here. One person will be receptive while another won't and that's just feelings/emotions which are not going to be like controlled by astrology aspects."I agree with MVM here, but also, one-sided synastry is mostly about A) each natal chart and B) real life, and how we express our natals in real life. For example, if someone posts regularly on an astrology website asking strangers if they see potential in our relationships, that's probably not at all about the synastry of ANY of the relationships OR about the actual real-life patterns of the relationships. It's waaay more likely that the poster's natal will show that he/she would have a tendency to obsess about romantic relationships, like astrology, tend toward superstitious rituals, and look to romantic relationships for validation. Now, just as in synastry, a natal chart is a map and not the territory--people are complex and unique, and might manifest the same aspect in different ways. BUT, overall, each natal will be a much, much, much more realistic indicator of how a relationship might play out than the synastry or composite. For example, if someone is brutally shy and never has sex with anyone, his synastry with various people would still show great sexual compatibility. Only a combination of A) looking at the natal very carefully and B) looking at that person's patterns of manifesting natal aspects in real life will show that despite Ms. X's great sex aspects with him, they're unlikely to hook up. It is a lovely fantasy that some great Twin Flame will free us from our romantic and relationship patterns, But while it is true that some relationships are more compatible than others, our natal tendencies and how we act them out sets the tone for all of our relationships. I think that especially when people seek outside guidance, analysis, interpretation, and advice about relationships--instead of trusting our own senses, observances, and intuitions--we are usually playing out natal patterns and tendencies that we would have in ANY relationship. IP: Logged |
Lucia23
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posted October 21, 2010 01:00 AM
"Your pSun @ 5 Leo is conjunct your pMars @ 5 Leo. Together they form an opposition to his pVenus @ 0 Aquarius."This is a much wider orb than I'd use, but, I think of Mars opp Venus as a very attraction-building aspect. IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20
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posted October 21, 2010 01:47 AM
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Your pSun @ 5 Leo is conjunct your pMars @ 5 Leo. Together they form an opposition to his pVenus @ 0 Aquarius. Forget the Sun/Moon and other flowing linkages for now, these are the dominant aspects with this guy. First, you have Sun opposed Venus, a tense aspect. Second, you have Venus opposed Mars, another tricky aspect. To complicate matters further, you, a "Girly-Girl" is thrust into the masculine position of Sun and Mars. And he, into the feminine/passive Venus role. Translation, you will have to do all the hard work, while he sits there and bats his eyelashes. If he is uncomfortable in the Girly-Girl position, things aren't gonna work out. Same for you playing the "guy". How apropos for an Aqua/Leo Male/Female dynamic. Is he simply not interested, or is he being Venus waiting for you/Sun/Mars to make the move?
He responds to things if I prod him...like if I text him he answers...in fact I do see him as VERY VERY VERY passive...which is VERY strange considering he has an Aries Moon and Mars...I expected to see something fiery. But I haven't so far. In fact something about him seems almost Taurus like...just kinda there...if I come around great if not he'll still be there lol. WTF is up with these guys with Aries/1st house stuff being passive. My Aqua ex was aggressive in going after me...but as SOON as we slept together he became VERY passive. Its strange. quote:
He has Moon is Aries, so he likes bold women. His Venus is in Capricorn, so he's attracted to strength and perseverance. Sounds like you?
Um yeah it deff sounds like me lol. I'm not afraid to go after what I want...and the natal Sun Conjunct Mars in the 1st helps that...but still my poor Cancer self doesn't like rejection (hell who does lol). IP: Logged |
Betty Boop
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posted October 21, 2010 02:19 AM
hmmmm I read something about Aries being passive - once... which rang true for me (I have an Aries Sun, but also Cap moon and Taurus Venus).
I'll try to find the quote.
-- Well that was easy. I already found it lol It is about fire sign people in general - not just Aries... quote:
Rub a match lightly a few times on the ignition strip of a matchbook -- no ignition. Next, apply more pressure until the match ignites and suddenly burns brightly. Hold the burning match for a few seconds, then light a piece of paper with the burning match. Let the match go out after it is placed on a fire resistant surface (plate, ashtray, etc.). Light other matches and extinguish them by putting in water, blowing on, and smothering.At first, the match does not ignite when lightly struck, but with harder rubbing (more friction, thus higher ignition temperature) does start burning. Fire people need the proper amount of stimulation before they will show any interest in a situation, but once "ignited", fire people get intensely involved. Before ignition, fire seems completely disinterested. The only speeds on the fire gearshift are stop and ahead fast; the gear shift is made suddenly.
http://www.cosmic-imperative.com/elements.htm I haven't read anything along these lines elsewhere but is it EVER accurate for my personality lol I'd go as far as to say the bolded part is one of the most accurate things I've ever read about myself in years of studying astrology. Maybe you could think of something that would "ignite" his fire hehe - (I know I know - how corny - right?) IP: Logged |
DD
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posted October 21, 2010 05:27 AM
Cool article on fire signs. It is so true for me, too. 
I agree with Lioness, before delving into synastry, you have to take the natals into account.
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GrlyGirl20
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posted October 21, 2010 06:00 AM
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For example, if someone is brutally shy and never has sex with anyone, his synastry with various people would still show great sexual compatibility. Only a combination of A) looking at the natal very carefully and B) looking at that person's patterns of manifesting natal aspects in real life will show that despite Ms. X's great sex aspects with him, they're unlikely to hook up.
This is true. And I think that’s why at the end of the day with astrology it’s strange…I do find it fascinating and have since being 17 but I don’t really believe it. It relates to psychology (and I was a psych major as an undergrad lol) but even if two people are PERFECT for each other and love each other, one could have issues that prevents them from getting close to another or maybe have X,Y, or Z wrong with them and keep a distance. That doesn’t mean that the attraction didn’t occur it just means that the individuals own backgrounds prevent them from getting as close as they could otherwise be. I initially got into it to see what type of person I was, and for the most part it rang true. Not all the time but its basic core was pretty on spot. So from there it grew. quote:
It is a lovely fantasy that some great Twin Flame will free us from our romantic and relationship patterns, But while it is true that some relationships are more compatible than others, our natal tendencies and how we act them out sets the tone for all of our relationships.
Logically I know this…and I think this was even the case with my Aqua ex that was so hard to get emotionally (despite logically getting it). I knew with him he was just straight up screwed up…and that most likely his treatment of me overall maybe isn’t as personal as I thought. However emotionally it’s very hard to not take what he did personal and compare myself to the other people on his facebook, or that he is dealing with…or that he re-added an ex of his when he didn’t accept me (when he down right rejected my friend request…ok that I still take personal). He could add my attractive friend that he had NEVER spoken to nor even met, nor actually has even tried to talk to her on facebook. So in that case its deff just because he found her attractive whereas with me I was expendable. This is the type of stuff I do. I’m the queen of taking negative things personal and positive things not personal. If someone praises me I’ll say it’s because they have to…or whatever…where as if such and such doesn’t work out its because I didn’t do a good enough job or I wasn’t a good enough girlfriend or friend or they didn’t find me attractive or whatever. quote:
I think that especially when people seek outside guidance, analysis, interpretation, and advice about relationships--instead of trusting our own senses, observances, and intuitions--we are usually playing out natal patterns and tendencies that we would have in ANY relationship.
This is true esp for me. I am terribly BAD at emotions and intimacy and tend to keep people at arm length and tend to be awkward in closer relationships, whereas I shine in group or not so close relationships. I don’t know if that is shown in my natal…but it IS present in every close relationship I have. And despite being a Cancer…I will say that I feel strange. According to how we are supposed to be I don’t respond to emotion or feel an emotion all the time. Half of the time I’m indifferent to a lot of stuff and people (but I care for them as a person, and if they want more from me I’ll be their friend) but I don’t respond to much of anything with heavy emotion. I express happiness or whatever emotion I’m supposed to show but I don’t feel it. I usually don’t feel things until they enter into the range of romantic relationships. I feel like a terrible Cancer because I don’t trust my hunches or intuition, I tend to be bad at that sort of thing when it relates to me. I’m like an emotional Cancer who wants to be logical…I tend to think or decide I should feel a certain way and do (or at least show I do), and then I try my hardest to try to switch off rather than just accept this is how I feel. I don’t see this in my natal. I’m not sure if this is an Earth or Air sign trait, but I don’t know. Then when I do something out of emotion I feel bad afterward and say I’ve behaved crazy lol.Maybe someone else who has read this can make sense of what I just wrote lol.
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GrlyGirl20
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posted October 21, 2010 06:05 AM
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Maybe you could think of something that would "ignite" his fire hehe - (I know I know - how corny - right?)
Mmmm but wouldn't me in a sense "telling" him I like him ignite a fire. Or is that not enough. Afterall I have just told him, and haven't really taken action nor expressed how attracted I am to him. And deff not corny lol...was a cute pun haha. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted October 21, 2010 07:50 AM
I can make sense of most nutty things 
I have been there or AM there,currently lolI think you are numb. This happens when we have too much trauma of one sort or another.
We shut down(become robotic/don't feel).
It is a protective mechanism : a safety mechanism built in by God.
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Nine
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posted October 21, 2010 03:56 PM
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This is a much wider orb than I'd use, but, I think of Mars opp Venus as a very attraction-building aspect.
Yes, in the beginning I used a 3 degree orb, but as I look at more charts it's I'm beginning to see wider orbs in "attractions." True, re: Mars opp Venus. But given the nature of the opposition & the nature of Mars, I see this matchup as a tense matchup. In the least it will pull you out of your comfort zone. IP: Logged |
DD
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posted October 21, 2010 04:01 PM
But sometimes being pulled out of our comfort zone may be just what we need.  Also on the wider orbs, they still are only valid for applying aspects, right? IP: Logged |
GrlyGirl20
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posted October 21, 2010 05:17 PM
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True, re: Mars opp Venus. But given the nature of the opposition & the nature of Mars, I see this matchup as a tense matchup. In the least it will pull you out of your comfort zone.
I actually agree...even with the Aqua ex my Mars was opp his Venus...so that is why I was the aggressor in terms of sex and everything after we initially got comfortable. And the only aspect where he was the mars was with a square to my moon. As far as this Cap, I can see myself being the initiator with him, and also we have an out of orb Mars Venus Opposition between us anyway so this is manifasting itself. Perhaps thats why I want him so badly...plus we have double whammy Moon Mars Squares. Mmmmm maybe most of the guys I have something with I become the Mars. Even if they have Aries or other fire signs they still become passive...maybe my Mars in 1st/Conjunction to Sun and Asc overpowers guys. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted October 22, 2010 04:21 AM
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Also on the wider orbs, they still are only valid for applying aspects, right?
Yes. That's why I used them. IP: Logged |
Nine
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posted October 22, 2010 04:29 AM
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Mmmmm maybe most of the guys I have something with I become the Mars. Even if they have Aries or other fire signs they still become passive...maybe my Mars in 1st/Conjunction to Sun and Asc overpowers guys.
LOL...Perhaps. Or as Lucia23 says, this shows your relating patterns. You like being the aggressor/pursuer/initiator in relationships. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted October 22, 2010 05:26 AM
Girly
Please write your planetary placements .
For example where is your Venus/Mars-- sign and house?------------------
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GrlyGirl20
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posted October 22, 2010 10:12 AM
My Placements Asc Cancer
Sun Cancer 1st
Moon Cap 7th
Mer Leo 2nd
Venus Tau 11th
Mars Cancer 1st
Jup Aqua 8th
Sat Scop 5th
Sag Uran 6th
Nep Cap 6th
Pluto 5th My Venus is Opp Saturn, and Trine my Moon. Its also opp Pluto by Sign and Inconjunct it by aspect, and Biquintile Neptune. My Venus is also Contra Parallel both Saturn and Jupiter. My Mars is Inconjunct both Jupiter and Uranus and forms a yod between the three. It is also Conjunct both my Sun, and Asc, Opp my Moon, and Trine my Saturn. My Mars is Parallel the Sun and Asc, and Contra Parallel both Uranus and Neptune. quote:
LOL...Perhaps. Or as Lucia23 says, this shows your relating patterns. You like being the aggressor/pursuer/initiator in relationships.
This is VERY true...I do like being aggressive...however whenever I do tend to behave like my Venus or something I always feel sort of strange...like its not my nature to sit back and wait. But I like a little give and take. I don't like doing ALL the pursuing...or initiating a sexual relationship all the time. Just like I'm sure most guys don't want to do ALL the work. There is a give and take. But I deff have no problem making my feelings known or letting a guy know where he stands (however I've never literally asked a guy out). I will admit I am MUCH more comforatble initiating a purely physical reltionship rather than an emotional one, or initiating sex in a relationship rather than emotional dependence or talks or need. I'm not good at that, nor do I do it often. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted October 22, 2010 12:06 PM
I think your last sentence is your problem, Girly--fear of emotional intimacy.
You substitute sexual intimacy for emotional intimacy, I think, but that won't make a real relationship.
Once the sexual thrill is over, the relationship will be ,too.
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GrlyGirl20
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posted October 22, 2010 12:49 PM
I think you're right. Are there aspects that would point to someone who is terrible with intimacy or emotional attachment?I will say that is perhaps why I am more comfortable feeling sexual desire for this Cap rather than emotional feelings. IP: Logged |
Ami Anne
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posted October 22, 2010 12:52 PM
Yes
When you listed your aspects,it was unclear on some what was aspecting what?
List the Venus, Saturn,Mars Moon and Pluto-- ones one by one .
Where is Chiron--sign and house?
Include houses  PS Don't list parallel's etc. I don't understand those--just the major aspects. Do up to a 5 degree orb. Cap moon, right off the bat, can see love as a business proposition rather than a heart thing.
Venus oppose Saturn is a classic pull between love vs holding back on love. ------------------
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GrlyGirl20
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posted October 22, 2010 01:12 PM
Ok, I got these off of Astro.com. Thanks :-)Venus
-In taurus in 11th house
-Opp Saturn
-Trine Moon
-Opp Pluto by Sign but inconjunct it by aspect
-Biquintile Neptune
-Sextile MC
-Semisquare Sun Mars
-In Cancer 1st house
-Conjunct Sun
-Conjunct Asc
-Opp Moon
-Inconjunct Uranus
-Inconjunct Jupiter
-Trine Saturn
-Sextile NN
-Trine MC Moon
-In Cap in 7th house
-Square Pluto
-Opp Mars
-Sextile Saturn
-Sesquisquare Chiron
-Sextile MC Saturn
-in scorp in 5th house
-Sesquisquare asc
-trine MC
-Opp Venus
-Sextile Moon
-Trine Mars Pluto
-in Scorp in 5th house
-Trine Asc
-Trine Sun
-Square Moon
-Square Mer
-Opp Venus by Sign, inconjunct it by aspect
-sextile Neptune
-Semi Square Uranus Chiron
-In Gemini in 12th house
-Semi Sextile Sun
-Sesquisquare Moon
-Trine Mer
-Trine Jup
-Opp Uranus
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Ami Anne
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posted October 22, 2010 01:15 PM
I am gonna meditate on these ,today, as I pack for my trip 
I will be back and forth looking them up and writing about them.------------------
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Ami Anne
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posted October 22, 2010 02:01 PM
Girly
Put your Sun aspects up there, too.
A Cancer Sun is a nest builder. It flows well and easily in relationships.
I am thinking about what is modifying the natural Cancer flow.
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