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PlutoSquared
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posted October 28, 2010 01:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
I can interpret your Neptune in Capricorn in 5th the most fair and innocent way possible, seeing as it squares her Venus in 10th.

Do you feel like you have to keep your love a secret or hidden, whereas she will tell EVERYONE about your love for you? Venus in 10 speaks of a public relationship, to me.

Moving on...

From looking at her chart, she has a kind of a spiritual and healing destiny indicated by Midheaven in Pisces and North Node in Pisces...

Also, indicated by her Neptune conjunct DC in Capricorn. Healing, Doctor, Healer, etc...

Your Saturn is Conjunct her Neptune. Do you want to see her become more "Serious" "Practical" "Down to Earth" regarding her life goals and profession?

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letram
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posted October 28, 2010 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
PlutoSquared,

i feel really badly somehow for allowing this,
but i (letram) am actually the man in this synastry, and the Leo!

she is the Aquarius, But please, what you have written is really fascinating to see it from the other perspective (must be my libra venus or the virgo in me)

i just came back to start commenting on the composite reading you wrote, and i am wowed so far at your work,

may i comment?, i respect that you have expressed you like to figure things out before your subject comments on what you have written, so??

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posted October 28, 2010 01:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Your Uranus, Neptune, and Saturn is in your 5th house...

To me, this means you not only want to keep your experimental, free-spirited, unique loves a secret, but there's big, old, heavy Saturn weighing you down in that avenue as well.

Edit: Expressed sympathy for you, the Leo. Haha.

It's like you just can't cut a break, and you want to be free to be loving, spontaneous, sexual... but Saturn is there nagging you, "No, No, No!"

Since Saturn is in Capricorn, I imagine this may be a parental figure or authority... poor YOU.

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posted October 28, 2010 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Haha... no worries Letram... I'll reverse it all...

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posted October 28, 2010 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Wow, now I have questions for YOU Letram!!!

Let me fix this first, though.

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letram
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posted October 28, 2010 01:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
noo, you act like all your work is wasted, it so isnt,

its better this way because i can actually answer some of the questions you wouldve asked my aqua about me!

hows that?

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posted October 28, 2010 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, LETRAM. Now tell me all about that Pluto in 4th house placement

Don't feel uncomfortable, but does your family hold you back from being with her?

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posted October 28, 2010 02:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
I'll try now to focus on HER chart, for your sake... hahaha

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posted October 28, 2010 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
Wonder why so many threads are crashing?
I lost a few here and at LLC2 also.

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posted October 28, 2010 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Letram,

Does she have a dream of being a doctor or healer, and you'd like to motivate her to really do that?

Has she realized her fate to become a healer of sorts?

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posted October 28, 2010 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
is that the first thing? or the only thing you'd like to know? aha..

well, i'll get as straight to it as i can without missing out some factors taht make it undeerstanding.

i am quite secrete/shy about my affairs with women in regards to others knowing of them, always have been.

since i got into astrology i thought it was just secretiveness side of my ASC square pluto, or shyness of my moon trine my asc.

we have kind of been together (its very hard to say how long weve been together, we have a official status date, but weve been "together" before the status as if the status made no difference to what we actually have, we just, particularly due to my own influence and needs, kept it to ourselves. its basically been about 11 months.

i was shy about revealing it to friends and family, but especially my friends. for a couple of reasons, its quite 'out there' our relationship, i thought or still do, believe its just weakness of pride as an issue, but i went over it more deeply ,and its a pride issue rooted from fear: fear of judgement from others, friends and family. why? because i just basically knew how people would take it, instead of being happy for me and being encouraging, i just knew i would get alot of "huh? wow's" and just nothing encouraging, but only disheartening. so for months we kept it to ourselves, and i mean Everyone.

after about 4 or 5 months i decided i was ready to approach this to my friends and family, just slowly, and still to this day havent explained Everything about it, or revelaed every little detail.

but my family knows the most.

my family is quite broken, due to background disagreements and issues, my mother and i are mostly secluded from the rest of the family, the only ones i maintain i ncontact with now are my grandmother and my uncle, i used to have solid relationships with my mother's sisters..

anyway, as i predicted, i got disheartening reaction with no encouragement from my Grandmother, and my Grandmother is like my other mother, she isnt just the Grandma i visited once a mont or weekends now n then.

my mother was more encouraging and happy, but over time my mother has expressed things i wont speak of here that are quite.. well plutonian in my eyes, and destructive. and i do believe their intentions are to cease me and her. i however have a rather disarming nature towards manipulative tactics, i look deeply into peoples motives and understand them well, i think i see my mothers through those times and thats why i stayed mostly strong.

the odd thing is, my mother apparently sincerely supports us and me with it now, its just theres these moments where she says things that are 'damaging' to me, like sabotage. my Grandmother on the other hand has not said anything disheartening since, i atleast know in both their cases, they care about ME. but my mother on the other hand, i sense some jelous energy in her, for reasons i can understand but wont go into.

there is no inheritence involved, and if there was, that wouldn't be threatened, im sure, by my choice of being with her.

there is no side-motive- or side reasonings why my family would hold me back.

im very attatched to my past, and my familiartiy with my own country, but i don't love it at all either. due to how i am with my family, there isnt much to be attatched to to hold me back, my grandmother is in her last days i have felt for years, my mother and my uncle are the only real ones. and i don't feel too attatched to them, but i wouldnt be surprised if my subconscious surprised me later with attatchment.


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PlutoSquared
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posted October 28, 2010 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you for clarifying, Letram. You have cleared things up for me completely. Feel free to edit your message out if you want.

You don't have to keep your personal information out there, especially since I know that goes against your desire for privacy.

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posted October 28, 2010 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Continuing to read...

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PlutoSquared
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posted October 28, 2010 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
I dunno, LEXX. That's strange. I've been looking at charts, so my eyes are so buggy, I didn't notice about the site going down around us

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letram
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posted October 28, 2010 02:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
sure thing pluto squared, im a little confused which questions to answer first, can you order them? im not sure what ones yo uwant me to answer to

i dont mind the information i posted out, i dont understand why people are more shy about what 'strangers' know, than actual people they know, just how i see things. if it was something i really wanted to keep to myself i doubt i'd post any of it at all, my earthy side wouldnt 'risk' a soul seeing anything if its meant to be a secret! aha

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posted October 28, 2010 02:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, your Jupiter in 11th in Pisces, square her Venus in 10th...

She loves her job. You have a network of either financial help, friendships, and a great amount of resources in your history... (pisces)

And, this is the problem.

As much as a Jupiter and Venus square isn't really that bad, it is. Because it's like one of you has to choose to lose something that's important to you.

Also, you'll notice that Chiron is very close conjunct her ascendant in Cancer. You have to "HEAL" over the past issues surrounding mother, family and "dead" history. Cancer = mother, family, relationships, pain, sensitivity... conjunct the wounded healer.

Her purpose, or ascendant works to do that...

I need to get a drink, haha... quick break!

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posted October 28, 2010 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Letram,

I'll order the questions for the very end. For right now, just enjoy the reading :P

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letram
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posted October 28, 2010 02:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
pluto squared, my jupiter is actually in cancer and hers in aries.

i think you mistake my jupiter in cancer for pisces,

my chrion in cancer conjuncts her asc, does that mean me (the chiron) need to heal her?

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posted October 28, 2010 02:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for letram     Edit/Delete Message
sure thing, and thankyou, i really really appreciate your readings, i feel guilty to receive it because i see the effort and thought into it very mmuch.

i feel i owe you, i love reading them!

thank you so much PlutoSquared

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posted October 28, 2010 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
Nope, I think I just need to get away from the computer screen for a bit. I'll post more soon.

Should've taken a break before I started the synastries!!!

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posted October 28, 2010 03:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
You're welcome, Letram. I will put this all together well, but my Pluto in 3rd needs a break!

My mind likes to probe to the very depths of information, but it also can get to a place where it taxes me...

A short break will get my mind working again.

This is 2nd nature for me, honestly. I LOVE picking apart charts

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posted October 28, 2010 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LEXX     Edit/Delete Message
PlutoSquared
I will try and reply to your readings on my charts today and or asap!
And take more looking into your Lexxigram.

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posted October 28, 2010 03:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
[Letram]

Here’s the last drop of information I can get from your chart without my mind self-destructing, haha.

I noticed in your natal chart a lot of squares. Main ones Uranus, Saturn, and Jupiter square Venus.

Somehow, I really believe this fated relationship was sort of meant to be “this strange” and “difficult”.

Your midheaven is in Aries and you really need to meditate on that.

The direction of your career and life should be geared towards independence, courage, and freedom.

Maybe this relationship will help you do that?

From your past, Chiron in 12th in Cancer (your losses with family in past), you Saturn in 5th, which really will put a damper on your Sun in Leo and Ascendant in Leo energy, the Pluto in 4th in Scorpio (the change that undermined you, and that you hold on to), here comes this wonderfully free-spirited Aquarius to help you…

What I was trying to see (but was otherwise skewed) was the fact that perhaps her free-spirit, the Neptune conjunct DC in Capricorn (which I think means she will be a healer for relationships – but also to others), with the Cancer ascendant probably has helped “HEAL” you quite a bit. Just knowing she’s there has probably given you a lot of confidence and motivation in your own life, to face your personal hang-ups.

Something you said before was probably true in regards to the fact that your Sun in Leo is quincunx your Neptune in 5th.

Leo is a sign that is honest and brave, and yet your romances are kept with a lot of secrecy and confusion surrounding them.

I don’t feel that you should necessarily do anything about them, because a quincunx, although the energies between are separated, don’t necessarily call to be reconciled. They will just act normally, without any interaction.

Your moon is in Aries in 9th… to me this suggests that your heart will at some point call you to go forth, be independent and travel… maybe this will mean to the Aquarius woman.

Your Aquarian, like you, has a Chiron in 12th house placement, except it’s in the sign of siblings and friendships. Perhaps she faced some sort of pain and injury surrounding socializing, relationships with friends, or siblings, and this is something she still needs to heal from.

I’m starting to see why this relationship is so important, because it plays a “background” 12th house love and healing for the both of you.

Maybe you are not together, right now, because it’s not appropriate for where you are in your development.

Maybe you NEED that background love and support, in the most non-confrontational way, to help you deal with the everyday issues you two will face in your individual lives. Just a thought.

Her 6th house service sector will always be busy, demand a lot of attention, have a hint of the unusual and unexpected, involve serious commitment, and be involved with Neptunian healing. I really think she’s going to end up in medicine – either as a doctor, nurse, emergency medicine???

Something even that’s out of the loop? Military Medic???

Her Juno is conjunct your moon. To me this symbolizes her dream of one day being together, and getting married. This chart says it’s a very real possibility.

But, one of you will eventually have to budge to be “together”… Either by overcoming your reservations (Saturn in 5th) and letting this relationship be public and merge – following that Aries moon in 9th (the desire for freedom and travel) of yours, or she will budge by overcoming the obligations and serious attention she has to be involved with inside of her career.

Good luck, either way. You have a nice supportive relationship from what I’ve seen. And, one that will probably encourage the other to grow from past hurts and karmic lessons.

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posted October 28, 2010 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
And, GypseeWind... I will get to your chart soon! Just taking my time, seeing as my brain is seeing everything backwards!!! Haha...

Here's another intermission:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWZAz9Qbzos

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posted October 28, 2010 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PlutoSquared     Edit/Delete Message
[Letram]

Also, I wanted to correct my statement about your Jupiter in 11th in Pisces - it's in Cancer...

So, one question I have for you is are you afraid that you will be "disinherited" by your mother, or family because of this relationship?

Is it that you just don't want to be seperated from your mother?

I'll have to meditate on her 6th house Uranus opposed to your Jupiter in 11th in Cancer.

ALSO, your Venus in 3rd is opposed to your Aries Moon in 9th...

To me this means you LIKE TO TALK about your love, but are really afraid to make the travel jump to her. However, your Moon is calling for you to recognize its want for you to budge away from less talk, more action!

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